Author Topic: Vega flight VV04 - IXV - February 11, 2015  (Read 176022 times)

Offline Chris Bergin

Full multi-year flow and launch update thread for the IXV mission.

IXV News Articles:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=IXV

L2 Link to 15 Presentations on IXV:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=5736.0
« Last Edit: 03/15/2015 02:17 pm by Jester »

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #1 on: 06/27/2007 08:39 pm »
Thanks!
We get much too little info about what happens in Europe, and this is a nice bit.

Future launcher preparatory programme, FLPP. And next generation launcher, NGL. I'd really like information on these, and I'd bet lots of new people would flock to the site. Especially if there were pretty pictures. :)

What's the deal with the French co-developing hydrocarbon engines with the Russians? No news at all...

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #2 on: 06/28/2007 10:15 am »
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meiza - 27/6/2007  10:39 PM

Thanks!
We get much too little info about what happens in Europe, and this is a nice bit.

Future launcher preparatory programme, FLPP. And next generation launcher, NGL. I'd really like information on these, and I'd bet lots of new people would flock to the site. Especially if there were pretty pictures. :)

What's the deal with the French co-developing hydrocarbon engines with the Russians? No news at all...

Get on L2, there are lots of "pretty pictures" in the technical docs about IXV on there

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5736

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #3 on: 06/28/2007 07:00 pm »
I find it somewhat odd that ESA and Russia are looking at lifting bodies while the US is back to capsules. Diversity is a good thing however.
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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #4 on: 06/28/2007 09:22 pm »
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meiza - 27/6/2007  9:39 PM

Thanks!
We get much too little info about what happens in Europe, and this is a nice bit.


It'll improve nearer Vega's launch.

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #5 on: 06/28/2007 09:43 pm »
Hmm, a new lifting body spacecraft, eh?  Might be time for me to sign up for L2!  :laugh:

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #6 on: 06/29/2007 02:52 am »
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vt_hokie - 28/6/2007  4:43 PM

Hmm, a new lifting body spacecraft, eh?  Might be time for me to sign up for L2!  :laugh:

It's like a baby X-33, right up your street  :bleh:

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #7 on: 06/29/2007 12:53 pm »
I meant the BIG rockets, there's no info on them. Vega is a small solid rocket. There is essentially nothing new about it. IXV docs have been available in L2 for a long time already.

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #8 on: 06/29/2007 02:30 pm »
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Norm Hartnett - 28/6/2007  2:00 PM

I find it somewhat odd that ESA and Russia are looking at lifting bodies while the US is back to capsules. Diversity is a good thing however.

Lockheed did originally want a "flying capsule" for CEV that bears more than a striking resemblance to IXV, but that got shot down by NASA pretty quickly.
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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #9 on: 06/29/2007 02:33 pm »
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Norm Hartnett - 28/6/2007  2:00 PM

I find it somewhat odd that ESA and Russia are looking at lifting bodies while the US is back to capsules. Diversity is a good thing however.

Lockheed did originally want a "flying capsule" for CEV that bears more than a striking resemblance to IXV, but that got shot down by NASA pretty quickly.

Would that be this.....?

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #10 on: 06/29/2007 02:41 pm »
Actually, I was thinking about this one. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CEV_Lockheed_Martin.jpg
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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #11 on: 06/29/2007 02:56 pm »
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PhalanxTX - 29/6/2007  3:41 PM

Actually, I was thinking about this one. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CEV_Lockheed_Martin.jpg

Ah! I went back one stage too far :)

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #12 on: 06/30/2007 01:16 am »
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meiza - 27/6/2007  10:39 PM

Thanks!
We get much too little info about what happens in Europe, and this is a nice bit.

Future launcher preparatory programme, FLPP. And next generation launcher, NGL. I'd really like information on these, and I'd bet lots of new people would flock to the site. Especially if there were pretty pictures. :)

What's the deal with the French co-developing hydrocarbon engines with the Russians? No news at all...

Get on L2, there are lots of "pretty pictures" in the technical docs about IXV on there

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5736

Thanks, I missed it and it's an interesting vehicle that not a lot was said about it before now.

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #13 on: 06/30/2007 07:45 pm »
A little more detail on the Lockheed Martin original VSE entry. http://astronautix.com/craft/cevkheed.htm
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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #14 on: 07/01/2007 08:16 pm »
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Norm Hartnett - 30/6/2007  3:45 PM

A little more detail on the Lockheed Martin original VSE entry. http://astronautix.com/craft/cevkheed.htm

That was an interesting design.  I was enthusiastic about CEV before the innovation killers at NASA shot that down in favor of the Apollo design.

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #15 on: 07/02/2007 03:06 pm »
The BBC have a story today about Esa and RKK Energia convening meetings with European industrial groups to discuss future manned spaceflight systems. Set for July.  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6260724.stm


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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #16 on: 07/02/2007 09:45 pm »
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Mogster - 2/7/2007  5:06 PM

The BBC have a story today about Esa and RKK Energia convening meetings with European industrial groups to discuss future manned spaceflight systems. Set for July.  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6260724.stm



The effort is going on for quite some time now, formerly known as ACTS. Next year a go/no go decision is to be made based on results of the studies.

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #17 on: 07/15/2007 07:31 pm »
I hope they give a go. New vehicles are always exciting.

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #18 on: 07/16/2007 05:50 am »
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Jason Davies - 15/7/2007  9:31 PM

I hope they give a go. New vehicles are always exciting.

It's not about excitement, it's about filling the needs. Kliper was rejected because it didn't fill European needs. I hope CSTS proposal will be prepared better. See http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8659&posts=24&start=1

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Re: Vega to fly ESA experimental reentry vehicle
« Reply #19 on: 07/22/2007 12:39 am »
Who is funding this? ESA or EADS?

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