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#120
by
Blue Yonder
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:36
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Next opportunity tomorrw? The outlook for Friday is also not so good, isn't it?
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#121
by
psloss
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:37
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MKremer - 21/6/2007 1:25 PM
A week if everything goes according to plan, with no delays (including weather there and along the return route).
Example: on STS-114, Discovery landed at Edwards on 9 August 2005. It didn't get back to KSC until 21 August 2005. (Not necessarily the record...)
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#122
by
Kel
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:37
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Ford Mustang - 21/6/2007 12:35 PM
The last day to land is Sunday, but that is for a 'systems day', if anything were to happen. Should land tomorrow or Saturday for sure. Tomorrow adds Edwards as well as KSC. Not quite sure about White Sands for tomorrow..
I thought they were only considering KSC Friday as well, with the other sites possible for Sat?
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#123
by
Ford Mustang
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:38
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Kel - 21/6/2007 1:37 PM
Ford Mustang - 21/6/2007 12:35 PM
The last day to land is Sunday, but that is for a 'systems day', if anything were to happen. Should land tomorrow or Saturday for sure. Tomorrow adds Edwards as well as KSC. Not quite sure about White Sands for tomorrow..
I thought they were only considering KSC Friday as well, with the other sites possible for Sat?
I'm really not positive, but I heard something on the mission status briefing last night about Edwards, thought it was tomorrow.
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#124
by
DaveS
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:38
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GW_Simulations - 21/6/2007 7:34 PM
How much longer can it stay in orbit?
They have enough consumables to stay in orbit until Sunday(EOM+3).
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#125
by
DaveS
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:38
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Kel - 21/6/2007 7:37 PM
Ford Mustang - 21/6/2007 12:35 PM
The last day to land is Sunday, but that is for a 'systems day', if anything were to happen. Should land tomorrow or Saturday for sure. Tomorrow adds Edwards as well as KSC. Not quite sure about White Sands for tomorrow..
I thought they were only considering KSC Friday as well, with the other sites possible for Sat?
Nope, EDW is going up tommorow.
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#126
by
sts1canada
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:39
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These are the listing of deorbit & landing times for attempts on Friday, Saturday and if really needed, Sunday, all times are listed in Eastern daylight time (add 4 hours to them for GMT time): (KSC - Kennedy Space Center, NOR - White Sands, New Mexico, EDW - Edwards Air Force Base)
06/22/07
Fri 01:14 PM...13...17...36...KSC: Deorbit on rev 218
Fri 02:16 PM...13...18...38...KSC: Landing
Fri 02:50 PM...13...19...12...KSC: Deorbit on rev 219
Fri 03:51 PM...13...20...13...KSC: Landing
Fri 04:19 PM...13...20...41...EDW: Deorbit on rev 220
Fri 05:21 PM...13...21...43...EDW: Landing
Fri 05:55 PM...13...22...17...EDW: Deorbit on rev 221
Fri 06:56 PM...13...23...18...EDW: Landing
06/23/07
Sat 11:59 AM...14...16...21...KSC: Deorbit on rev 233
Sat 01:02 PM...14...17...24...KSC: Landing
Sat 01:31 PM...14...17...53...NOR: Deorbit on rev 234
Sat 02:33 PM...14...18...55...NOR: Landing
Sat 01:35 PM...14...17...57...KSC: Deorbit on rev 234
Sat 02:37 PM...14...18...59...KSC: Landing
Sat 03:05 PM...14...19...27...EDW: Deorbit on rev 235
Sat 04:07 PM...14...20...29...EDW: Landing
Sat 03:06 PM...14...19...28...NOR: Deorbit on rev 235
Sat 04:08 PM...14...20...30...NOR: Landing
Sat 04:40 PM...14...21...02...EDW: Deorbit on rev 236
Sat 05:42 PM...14...22...04...EDW: Landing
Sat 04:43 PM...14...21...05...NOR: Deorbit on rev 236
Sat 05:44 PM...14...22...06...NOR: Landing
06/24/07
Sun 12:20 PM...15...16...42...KSC: Deorbit on rev 249
Sun 01:22 PM...15...17...44...KSC: Landing
Sun 01:52 PM...15...18...14...NOR: Deorbit on rev 250
Sun 02:54 PM...15...19...16...NOR: Landing
Sun 01:56 PM...15...18...18...KSC: Deorbit on rev 250
Sun 02:58 PM...15...19...20...KSC: Landing
Sun 03:26 PM...15...19...48...EDW: Deorbit on rev 251
Sun 04:27 PM...15...20...49...EDW: Landing
Sun 03:28 PM...15...19...50...NOR: Deorbit on rev 251
Sun 04:27 PM...15...20...49...NOR: Landing
Sun 05:02 PM...15...21...24...EDW: Deorbit on rev 252
Sun 06:03 PM...15...22...25...EDW: Landing
Richard
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#127
by
sts1canada
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:44
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Both KSC and EDW will be up for landing support tomorrow, Friday, if Atlantis cannot make it home to KSC on her two opportunities tomorrow (she has a better chance on the first one to avoid developing showers and storms), I suspect she will land on her first opp. to Edwards tomorrow, the weather at KSC on Saturday is not much better than Friday's to try to keep her up for another day for a third chance to KSC after tomorrow's attempts.
Richard
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#128
by
Antares
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:44
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Ankle-bone12 - 21/6/2007 1:21 PM
CNN said that landing at Edwards would cost an extra million$. is this true?
That's a rough ROM. It's at least that much. Pretty much flying out a lot of OPF rats and putting them in hotels and food for a week. I'm not sure it's valid to add their labor time in. It definitely costs a week of turnaround schedule. But the standing Shuttle army is on the payroll no matter what.
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#129
by
William Graham
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:45
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If the weather is bad at all three landing sites, and they can't stay in space for another day, what would they do? Land at one of the TAL sites?
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#130
by
ApolloLee
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:47
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Judging by the weather state in Florida for tomorrow, looks like California here we come....
Though I have a hunch that if the forecast looks better for Florida on Saturday, the still may give it another day....
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#131
by
ApolloLee
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:48
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I assume KU will remain stowed, meaning no images today from Atlantis, correct?
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#132
by
psloss
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:49
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sts1canada - 21/6/2007 1:44 PM
Both KSC and EDW will be up for landing support tomorrow, Friday, if Atlantis cannot make it home to KSC on her two opportunities tomorrow (she has a better chance on the first one to avoid developing showers and storms), I suspect she will land on her first opp. to Edwards tomorrow, the weather at KSC on Saturday is not much better than Friday's to try to keep her up for another day for a third chance to KSC after tomorrow's attempts.
Richard
To me, the key will be what the Saturday Edwards forecast is if/when they have to make a decision tomorrow on the first EDW rev. If it's the same as this week so far -- the winds on the second EDW rev are out of limits, then I think you're right and staying up until Saturday to see how KSC is won't be very attractive.
Lots of choices and forecasts to look at tomorrow...
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#133
by
Ford Mustang
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:49
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A friend just told me that she might try to land again tonight. I'm getting a no from some people, and a yes from others. CBS says they might try Edwards tonight.. Can anyone confirm something?
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#134
by
kneecaps
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:50
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There is no opportunity for today. Next attempts are tommorrow.
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#135
by
jackyg
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:50
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Antares - 21/6/2007 7:44 PM
Ankle-bone12 - 21/6/2007 1:21 PM
CNN said that landing at Edwards would cost an extra million$. is this true?
That's a rough ROM. It's at least that much. Pretty much flying out a lot of OPF rats and putting them in hotels and food for a week. I'm not sure it's valid to add their labor time in. It definitely costs a week of turnaround schedule. But the standing Shuttle army is on the payroll no matter what.
And what cost another day in space?
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#136
by
sts1canada
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:50
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GW_Simulations - 21/6/2007 1:45 PM
If the weather is bad at all three landing sites, and they can't stay in space for another day, what would they do? Land at one of the TAL sites?
Yes they could land at various sites around the world (TAL sites and approved Air Force bases) if needed in an absolute worst case but that would require a lot of bad luck with the weather.
MCC-H says that they will land tomorrow either at KSC or EDW (as I suspected earlier, yesterday in fact).
Richard
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#137
by
DaveS
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:51
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Ford Mustang - 21/6/2007 7:49 PM
A friend just told me that she might try to land again tonight. I'm getting a no from some people, and a yes from others. CBS says they might try Edwards tonight.. Can anyone confirm something?
They will NOT land today. They have backed out of the de-orbit configuration.
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#138
by
sts1canada
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:52
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ApolloLee - 21/6/2007 1:48 PM
I assume KU will remain stowed, meaning no images today from Atlantis, correct?
KU is stowed for the remainder of the mission, so there will be no live video from the shuttle even with a one day wave-off.
Richard
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#139
by
andymw
on 21 Jun, 2007 17:53
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Can anyone tell me roughly when the first EDW landing opportunity might be 2moro. Looks like their best bet given the forecasts.
