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#220
by
cookiejar500
on 14 Jun, 2007 23:51
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I about split my sides when that reporter asked about the "noisy" station, what is that guy doing in an interview session with a bunch of engineers? That was funny!
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#221
by
Ankle-bone12
on 14 Jun, 2007 23:54
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cookiejar500 - 14/6/2007 6:51 PM
I about split my sides when that reporter asked about the "noisy" station, what is that guy doing in an interview session with a bunch of engineers? That was funny!
Did you see the look on Sufferdini's face when he said that? That was what made it so funny. it took alot of effort to hold back like that. LOL! :laugh:
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#222
by
zinfab
on 14 Jun, 2007 23:56
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"That's a different kind of noise."
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#223
by
cookiejar500
on 14 Jun, 2007 23:58
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Mike was real close to laughing out loud on that one. He almost lost it, where did that guy come from, he must cover the travel section or something
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#224
by
bobthemonkey
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:40
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Just seen ABC World News. Leading with the ISS. Using language such as 'crisis' and talking about abandonment.
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#225
by
Zachstar
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:44
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OGS being worked on by clay.
Image of the station/shuttle complex.
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#226
by
hop
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:45
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stockman - 14/6/2007 4:36 PM
This DLA reversal is just impossible for me to understand. Even if something like that could happen in manufacturing, aren't there many, many integration tests on these things before they are certified??? I would have expected (maybe naively) that a cross wiring on one of the MAJOR components of this trust would have been tripped over way before now.. What am I missing with this??
It is surprising. Perhaps some of the paperwork was reversed as well, or a design change wasn't propagated through all the paperwork. Certainly seems like multiple layers of errors must have been required for something like this to slip through.
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#227
by
Zachstar
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:46
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bobthemonkey - 14/6/2007 7:40 PM
Just seen ABC World News. Leading with the ISS. Using language such as 'crisis' and talking about abandonment.
I guess little mention that they likely found the cause right?
That would only get in the way of the sensationalism.
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#228
by
Chris Bergin
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:52
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bobthemonkey - 15/6/2007 1:40 AM
Just seen ABC World News. Leading with the ISS. Using language such as 'crisis' and talking about abandonment.
*Bangs head against nearest wall* But then again, they'll look silly if the problem is solved when the troubleshoot kicks in at 9pm Central.
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#229
by
Norm Hartnett
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:53
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bobthemonkey - 14/6/2007 5:40 PM
Just seen ABC World News. Leading with the ISS. Using language such as 'crisis' and talking about abandonment.
NBC and CBS second lead story, not quite so much hysteria.
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#230
by
jmjawors
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:54
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Expect more of the same during the crew interviews tonight.
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#231
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Gary
on 15 Jun, 2007 00:58
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BBC News says that the computer crash on the ISS has caused the oxygen generation system to fail..... I think they are getting confused with previous Elektron failures and with Clays work on installing the OGS.
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#232
by
Norm Hartnett
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:04
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Gary - 14/6/2007 5:58 PM
BBC News says that the computer crash on the ISS has caused the oxygen generation system to fail..... I think they are getting confused with previous Elektron failures and with Clays work on installing the OGS.
Elektron has been down several times during the last few days, it is controlled by the computers and is also normally dependant on external (US) power.
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#233
by
cookiejar500
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:17
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I do not believe anyone has mentioned this but is there any chance that the spacewalkers connected up the cables wrong? Maybe they switched two of them that have the DLA control lines. It is hard to believe that the S3/S4 itself is miswired, they should have caught that in the integration testing.
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#234
by
MKremer
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:23
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I remember reading long ago that each of the connectors of the same size in each area are all 'keyed' differently, so even if you mistakenly tried to misconnect one, it wouldn't go in. Not very many are all the same size at each connector hookup location anyway.
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#235
by
NASA_Twix_JSC
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:31
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cookiejar500 - 14/6/2007 8:17 PM
I do not believe anyone has mentioned this but is there any chance that the spacewalkers connected up the cables wrong? Maybe they switched two of them that have the DLA control lines. It is hard to believe that the S3/S4 itself is miswired, they should have caught that in the integration testing.
The process is hugely timelined and each step is checked, double checked and then reviewed. I don't think it will be this. I hope.
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#236
by
Norm Hartnett
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:36
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hop - 14/6/2007 5:45 PM
stockman - 14/6/2007 4:36 PM
This DLA reversal is just impossible for me to understand. Even if something like that could happen in manufacturing, aren't there many, many integration tests on these things before they are certified??? I would have expected (maybe naively) that a cross wiring on one of the MAJOR components of this trust would have been tripped over way before now.. What am I missing with this??
It is surprising. Perhaps some of the paperwork was reversed as well, or a design change wasn't propagated through all the paperwork. Certainly seems like multiple layers of errors must have been required for something like this to slip through.
You can bet there are massive ass covering operations going on right now.
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#237
by
stockman
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:37
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NASA_Twix_JSC - 14/6/2007 9:31 PM
cookiejar500 - 14/6/2007 8:17 PM
I do not believe anyone has mentioned this but is there any chance that the spacewalkers connected up the cables wrong? Maybe they switched two of them that have the DLA control lines. It is hard to believe that the S3/S4 itself is miswired, they should have caught that in the integration testing.
The process is hugely timelined and each step is checked, double checked and then reviewed. I don't think it will be this. I hope.
I truly hope you are right. But I never thought an agency with so many checks and rechecks in its systems would make a mistake between Metric and Imperial measurement either - yet Mars Climate Orbiter proved that it is at least possible! Lets hope its silly software issues.
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#238
by
Lee Jay
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:42
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Genesis had its accelerometer mounted upside down, and design reviews never caught it. These things are still built by people and people can make errors - even different people making the same errors over and over thus never catching each other's mistakes.
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#239
by
Norm Hartnett
on 15 Jun, 2007 01:43
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NASA_Twix_JSC - 14/6/2007 6:31 PM
cookiejar500 - 14/6/2007 8:17 PM
I do not believe anyone has mentioned this but is there any chance that the spacewalkers connected up the cables wrong? Maybe they switched two of them that have the DLA control lines. It is hard to believe that the S3/S4 itself is miswired, they should have caught that in the integration testing.
The process is hugely timelined and each step is checked, double checked and then reviewed. I don't think it will be this. I hope.
I've been thinking that this mission did not seem as organized as the P3/4 mission was. Remember everyone doing the Abort Abort Abort routine when working on the retract. Nothing like that happening on this mission, kinda casual in some ways.
