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#400
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ETEE
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:42
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Pete at Edwards - 14/6/2007 1:39 AM
Zachstar - 13/6/2007 7:32 PM
6:02 into a 6:30 spacewalk 
Not much time and there is alot to do.
Can someone give a two line roundup of what went wrong?
DLAs are supposed to be bolted down with the assembly in neutral; ie with the gears not engaged. The wiring for the DLAs was swapped meaning that DLA2 was in "engage" instead of "neutral" while they were bolting it down. DLA1 was presumably in neutral instead of engage. They will check DLA1 physically on the next EVA. DLA2 has already been confirmed as swapped over by this EVA team.
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#401
by
shuttlefan
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:43
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I hope I'm posting this in the right thread--
OK, really, how much damage do they seriously expect to the orbiter if they re-enter with the torn thermal blanket not repaired and is it really worth going through all this testing on the ground, reference to Chris's article, and actually sending an astronaut to the OMS pod to do this?
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#402
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:43
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#403
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:44
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shuttlefan - 13/6/2007 7:43 PM
I hope I'm posting this in the right thread--
OK, really, how much damage do they seriously expect to the orbiter if they re-enter with the torn thermal blanket not repaired and is it really worth going through all this testing on the ground, reference to Chris's article, and actually sending an astronaut to the OMS pod to do this?
Possibly enough to send Atlantis to a Museum when she lands.
You don't want that do you? We need Atlantis bad!
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#404
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:46
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#405
by
DaveS
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:47
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Zachstar - 14/6/2007 2:44 AM
shuttlefan - 13/6/2007 7:43 PM
I hope I'm posting this in the right thread--
OK, really, how much damage do they seriously expect to the orbiter if they re-enter with the torn thermal blanket not repaired and is it really worth going through all this testing on the ground, reference to Chris's article, and actually sending an astronaut to the OMS pod to do this?
Possibly enough to send Atlantis to a Museum when she lands.
You don't want that do you? We need Atlantis bad!
Easy answer is: They don't know. They have entered with waay worse OMS pod issues before and always got the orbiters+the pods back.
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#406
by
ETEE
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:47
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shuttlefan - 14/6/2007 1:43 AM
I hope I'm posting this in the right thread--
OK, really, how much damage do they seriously expect to the orbiter if they re-enter with the torn thermal blanket not repaired and is it really worth going through all this testing on the ground, reference to Chris's article, and actually sending an astronaut to the OMS pod to do this?
Reason given by Mr Shannon was that damage to the orbiter structure could result if no repair was made. The mission could easily be extended for a fourth EVA so non problemo do the repair.
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#407
by
Ankle-bone12
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:48
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shuttlefan - 13/6/2007 7:43 PM
I hope I'm posting this in the right thread--
OK, really, how much damage do they seriously expect to the orbiter if they re-enter with the torn thermal blanket not repaired and is it really worth going through all this testing on the ground, reference to Chris's article, and actually sending an astronaut to the OMS pod to do this?
They said in the briefing yesterday that its happened before alot aand they didn't do anytrhing about it. They also said that it would be fine if the whole blanket came off. No I dont think its worth the extended mission. but then again Im not an nasa engineer, Im a freshman In college.
EDIT: so im not telling anyone how to do there job.
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#408
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Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:50
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View of Pat through the Steve: Helmetcam
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#409
by
Joffan
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:50
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Zachstar - 13/6/2007 6:44 PM
shuttlefan - 13/6/2007 7:43 PM
I hope I'm posting this in the right thread--
OK, really, how much damage do they seriously expect to the orbiter if they re-enter with the torn thermal blanket not repaired and is it really worth going through all this testing on the ground, reference to Chris's article, and actually sending an astronaut to the OMS pod to do this?
Possibly enough to send Atlantis to a Museum when she lands.
You don't want that do you? We need Atlantis bad!
Actually we need Atlantis good... :laugh:
I think the chance of serious damage is less than 1 in a thousand, probably much less than that, but repairing it is worthwhile anyway, because they can, because any time spent practising repairs may be useful in future missions, and because knowing the effects of re-entry on the repairs will itself be useful.
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#410
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Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:51
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#411
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:52
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GO for Restraint break torque once lock is removed.
2/4 bolts for lock then the cover install.
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#412
by
kneecaps
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:53
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Ankle-bone12 - 14/6/2007 1:48 AM
They said in the briefing yesterday that its happened before alot aand they didn't do anytrhing about it. They also said that it would be fine if the whole blanket came off. No I dont think its worth the extended mission. but then again Im not an nasa engineer, Im a freshman In college.
They didn't say it would be fine if the whole blanket came off, they said it wouldn't be a flight safety problem, as in loss of vehicle.
They know that there will likely be damage to the OMS Pod if they don't effect a repair. So considering there is the capabillity to add an extra EVA to try and repair and hopefully prevent/reduce damage....why not do it? How is it not worth it..you lose nothing by trying and gain majorly if you succeed (Non-zero sum
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#413
by
zinfab
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:53
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The option to extend was there with or without the blanket issue. If they had the consumables, they were GOING to consider a 4th EVA anyway.
This just made it a "no brainer" in the words of NASA. If they can take an hour or two to try to protect it a little more there, they will have LESS to work on the ground. We need to protect the equipment. They were REASONABLY confident that they COULD have entered with this, however--given previous missions.
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#414
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Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:55
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#415
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:56
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Starting on torque break for Launch restraints.
All but 1
Helmetcam: Steve
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#416
by
Chris Bergin
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:56
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zinfab - 14/6/2007 1:53 AM
The option to extend was there with or without the blanket issue. If they had the consumables, they were GOING to consider a 4th EVA anyway.
This just made it a "no brainer" in the words of NASA. If they can take an hour or two to try to protect it a little more there, they will have LESS to work on the ground. We need to protect the equipment. They were REASONABLY confident that they COULD have entered with this, however--given previous missions.
Exactly.
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#417
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 00:59
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Pats Co2 scrubbers are almost saturated so he needs to get on the airlock supplies.
Steve still seems to be go to complete the torque break tho.
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#418
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 01:00
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6:30 EVA Duration
Pat is complete on the last Launch Lock Cover. Back to the Airlock.
Steve continues to break torque.
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#419
by
Zachstar
on 14 Jun, 2007 01:01
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Last launch lock in the bag!... Literally!
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