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HDTV coverage... by gocamels on 21 May, 2007 13:42
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Has any info been released regarding HDTV coverage in the US of launch/on-orbit/landing operations?
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#1 by Jim on 21 May, 2007 13:57
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Launch coverage is on HDnet for every launch, thru an agreement with NASA. Same goes for NASA ELV's.
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#2 by gocamels on 21 May, 2007 14:01
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Thanks. I just got into the HD thing in late January. Hadn't check the TIVO yet to see if its in the sked yet, but whats their usu. coverage window?
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#3 by Jim on 21 May, 2007 14:03
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2-4 hours of the countdown and launch
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#4 by on 21 May, 2007 14:30
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Can you get NASA tv on hd?
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#5 by DaveS on 21 May, 2007 14:34
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Justin Wheat - 21/5/2007 4:30 PM
No.
Can you get NASA tv on hd? -
#6 by shuttlepilot on 22 May, 2007 17:46
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Is it possible to catch any HDTV coverage of launch in Central Europe?
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#7 by on 22 May, 2007 17:52
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No
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#8 by on 22 May, 2007 18:02
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Jim - 21/5/2007 9:03 AM 2-4 hours of the countdown and launch
it is six hours before launch not 2-4 hours
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#9 by psloss on 22 May, 2007 18:15
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Justin Wheat - 22/5/2007 2:02 PM
Looking at the press releases from HDNet for recent launch attempts, the length of coverage before scheduled T-0 appears to vary. NASA TV coverage usually starts earlier, but at any rate it's different from HDNet coverage...QuoteJim - 21/5/2007 9:03 AM 2-4 hours of the countdown and launch
it is six hours before launch not 2-4 hours
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#10 by Andrewwski on 22 May, 2007 20:25
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Best thing to do is to watch on HDNet when possible and put on NASA TV from another source to listen to the NASA TV audio.
Although HDNet does very good compared to CNN or Fox News.
I think it depends on the time of day in which the launch window falls as to when they start coverage. I think for 115 they did it at least 4-5 hours beforehand. -
#11 by Avron on 25 May, 2007 03:00
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I only hope that HDNET covers it in Canada.. due to our wonderful CRTC - yes that gov control board on what you can see, we cannot have more than x pct non-canadian content... now if they do.. I will be recording, if I am not down watching live..
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#12 by Andrewwski on 25 May, 2007 03:27
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But HDNet's a privately owned network, no? Unlike NASA TV which is a US government agency's TV channel. So how could they stop that?
I know that there was a problem with NASA TV being carried in Canada, but is this the same kind of situation? -
#13 by Andrewwski on 25 May, 2007 03:27
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Double post, sorry.
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#14 by Avron on 25 May, 2007 04:30
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Andrewwski - 24/5/2007 11:27 PM
But HDNet's a privately owned network, no? Unlike NASA TV which is a US government agency's TV channel. So how could they stop that?
I know that there was a problem with NASA TV being carried in Canada, but is this the same kind of situation?
HDNET is private.. the problem last time was pct content... what they ( the gov) forget is that if you look inside the payload bay, all you see is one US flag and two "Canada"'s .. me that would be 66% Canadian content...
Luckly Dish broadcasts NASA TV free on 119 deg west.. so much for control... must say I would like to see NASA TV on Ku and not only on C band, Ku HD NASA TV would be just perfect, and we may if we can get the right Network stream going, rebroadcast it via the web in HD to the rest of the world... but even with Mpeg2 compression we are talking many megs a second -
#15 by Andrewwski on 29 May, 2007 02:08
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One problem: there's no NASA TV in HD.
I'd love for that one day. But obviously NASA TV needs some work before then too.
What's necessary to get it on Dish? Just an old receiver that was once activated and a single LNB pointed at 119? I get NASA TV from my cable company but only 12 hours a day...and sometimes it's not the right 12 hours. If it's a shuttle launch I have HDNet but if it's any other event I'm stuck with the web feed if it falls outside that 12 hours. -
#16 by JeffR on 29 May, 2007 02:38
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Avron - 24/5/2007 12:00 AM
I only hope that HDNET covers it in Canada.. due to our wonderful CRTC
I wouldn't worry about it. The launch previous, Discovery, was carried live on HDNet on Rogers, so I doubt this will be any different. -
#17 by Avron on 29 May, 2007 04:38
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Andrewwski - 28/5/2007 10:08 PM
One problem: there's no NASA TV in HD.
I'd love for that one day. But obviously NASA TV needs some work before then too.
What's necessary to get it on Dish? Just an old receiver that was once activated and a single LNB pointed at 119? I get NASA TV from my cable company but only 12 hours a day...and sometimes it's not the right 12 hours. If it's a shuttle launch I have HDNet but if it's any other event I'm stuck with the web feed if it falls outside that 12 hours.
To get Dish, one needs to subscribe, but NASA TV is Free-to-air.. so any old FTA box or PC card would do fine.. with a dish pointing at 119 West and a circular LNBF, you would be good to go.. but know that the signal at 119 is not HD.. -
#18 by Andrewwski on 29 May, 2007 23:32
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I thought an unactivated Dish reciever that was once activated would still get NASA TV?
Or must I get a FTA reciever like Pansat?
As the dish goes...can I just take a Dish 300 with a single LNBF and point it at 119? -
#19 by Avron on 30 May, 2007 04:22
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Andrewwski - 29/5/2007 7:32 PM
I thought an unactivated Dish reciever that was once activated would still get NASA TV?
Or must I get a FTA reciever like Pansat?
As the dish goes...can I just take a Dish 300 with a single LNBF and point it at 119?
go ahead... no harm in trying... may wanna look around before selecting Pansat... -
#20 by Andrewwski on 01 Jun, 2007 00:25
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http://hd.net/program_search_results.html?keyword=nasa&whattosearch=both
HDNet will start coverage at 6:00 PM EDT, at least as currently scheduled.
That's really a disappointment as we'll miss the walkout, crew entry of the vehicle, and practically all pre-launch preparations. If my cable company decides not to show NASA TV at that time (usually they only show it midnight to noon), I'll be stuck with the web feed.
I encourage you to email HDNet and ask for more prelaunch coverage. In the past it's been at least 3 hours. I believe the best contact would be either Mark Cuban or the Viewer Feedback Address.
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#21 by Avron on 06 Jun, 2007 04:42
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EH.. click on the link for res.. 1440x1080
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#22 by wannamoonbase on 07 Jun, 2007 16:53
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New HD Satelite receiver is in my truck right now, I will get hooking it up tonight and at T-0 tomorrow my neighbours will know I have a new system.
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#23 by daveglo on 07 Jun, 2007 17:22
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I watched the last launch on HDNet. While the HD is incredible (especially on a 9' screen), the guy doing the commentary is just awful. I know he's trying hard, but yeegads he's impossible to listen to.
I have to agree with the earlier posts about putting NASA TV on audio. I'm curious to see how much timeshifting there i sin the two feeds.
I'd also point out that last time, the replays were poor, in terms of angles and views presented. -
#24 by Avron on 07 Jun, 2007 17:22
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wannamoonbase - 7/6/2007 12:53 PM
New HD Satelite receiver is in my truck right now, I will get hooking it up tonight and at T-0 tomorrow my neighbours will know I have a new system.
SWEET!
Good luck.. 110 west is where you wanna be pointing... if you are on dish..
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#25 by Andrewwski on 07 Jun, 2007 20:05
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110 or 119? I thought it was 119?
The time shift isn't bad if you can get NASA TV on cable/satellite. There's quite a bit if it's the web feed. -
#26 by Avron on 08 Jun, 2007 01:36
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Andrewwski - 7/6/2007 4:05 PM
110 or 119? I thought it was 119?
The time shift isn't bad if you can get NASA TV on cable/satellite. There's quite a bit if it's the web feed.
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#27 by Andrewwski on 08 Jun, 2007 01:38
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Oh whoops...missed the HDNet part...
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#28 by Andrewwski on 08 Jun, 2007 22:10
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Anyone able to record HDNet and post it? I can watch it live but only record in SD.
If not I think NASA.gov will eventually put it up.
I'm praying that my cable doesn't go out right now. We have severe thunderstorms where I live and the cable has been flashing in and out. Without cable, I have no TV or internet. Then I'll be scrambling to relatives houses to watch it on satellite... -
#29 by Paul Adams on 08 Jun, 2007 22:18
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Fantastic images on HDNET net - if you cant be there (like me) this is the second best way to watch a launch. After NASASPACEFLIGHT of course!!
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#30 by Andrewwski on 08 Jun, 2007 22:47
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Just turn the commentary down and turn NASA TV up...
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#31 by Thorny on 09 Jun, 2007 16:45
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Andrewwski - 8/6/2007 5:47 PM
Just turn the commentary down and turn NASA TV up...
Definitely! If it weren't for the time-lag, that's what I'd have done. But HDNET is many seconds behind CNN and the other news nets, and NASA TV's webcast was almost a full minute behind real time, so the synching was just impossible.
HDNET's commentary is just awful. Their talking head is in way over his head on the space program, getting basic facts wrong (sometimes horribly wrong) missing important moments in the countdown, etc.
Yesterday, he kept saying the view from the Complex 41 Roof was the view from the VAB Roof (even though he was right outside the VAB and he should'be noticed... 'you know, that's not the same angle...') And he completely missed the final go/no-go poll, yacking away about nothing while it was happening, and then yacking over important final countdown events while telling his audience "the go/no-go poll should be any time now..." The astronaut with him finally had to tell him, "It's already happened. They're go."
Both the HDNET talking head and his astronaut co-host claimed STS-117 was the heaviest Shuttle mission ever. Argh!
The NASA PAO commentator, who often talks over Launch Control/Mission Control himself, still is a hundred times better. HDNET should just let the PAO handle the talking.
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#32 by Andrewwski on 10 Jun, 2007 00:14
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I was real annoyed by that final check too. They had already done it a lot earlier on the web feed of NASA TV.
But for the last 4 or so minutes they just let the NASA audio go through. I believe he said that "we'll just shut up now".
If you have surround sound, throughout the countdown they had the commentary through the front channels and the NASA audio through the rears. So theoretically you could just unplug the front speakers...
But after they shut up, it was amazing. They had full surround...and it had to be the next best thing to being there. I had the volume almost at max and probably drove my neighbors crazy. -
#33 by Jason on 10 Jun, 2007 03:55
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Thorny - 9/6/2007 12:45 PM
Both the HDNET talking head and his astronaut co-host claimed STS-117 was the heaviest Shuttle mission ever. Argh! [/QUOTE]It wasn't the heaviest? I'm asking because I have it from a good source that this was the heaviest mission to date, and I'd hate for him to be wrong. I do agree however that the HDNet coverage was less than sufficient and thier fact checking should be in check.
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#34 by Thorny on 10 Jun, 2007 04:26
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Jason - 9/6/2007 10:55 PM
It wasn't the heaviest? I'm asking because I have it from a good source that this was the heaviest mission to date, and I'd hate for him to be wrong. I do agree however that the HDNet coverage was less than sufficient and thier fact checking should be in check.
It was the heaviest to the Space Station, but far from the heaviest Shuttle mission. Chandra AXAF in 1999 was about 15,000 lbs. heavier at over 50,000 lbs. Galileo, Magellan, Ulysses, the TDRS launches, all were heavier.
Shuttle takes about a 40% payload hit going to ISS's orbit. -
#35 by Jim on 10 Jun, 2007 04:49
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GRO was heavier and some of the XXX and XXX payloads were much heavier
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#36 by cello on 10 Jun, 2007 07:49
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shuttlepilot - 22/5/2007 12:46 PM
Is it possible to catch any HDTV coverage of launch in Central Europe?
That's real pain for rest of the world.
Forget about HDnet, even nasa tv is a big problem. The only source usually is webcast.
Once I wrote NASA and asked, do they have any plans to retranslate channel over europe some day. They didn't answered. -
#37 by elmarko on 12 Jun, 2007 08:01
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Oh, sorry, I missed this thread.
I may be able to make a request in certain places on the internet for someone to do a capture of the HDNet feed for future launches. It would be encoded in x264 (which is becoming the "standard" for HD captures") and probably be left in 1080 for the detail. You'd need an uber machine for it though. A 720p version might become available but obviously that would lose some detail at the bonus of being slightly less system intensive.
