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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #60 on: 06/28/2007 02:07 pm »
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DaveS - 28/6/2007  9:47 AM

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stockman - 28/6/2007  3:13 PM
Are there any russian sources that can verify what is truly going on?

Read James's earlier reply:
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James Lowe1 - 28/6/2007  6:35 AM

I spoke to Chris about coverage and he recieved an e-mail, along with a few other journalists, saying that no information would be released, this came from Bigelow PAO. Even the e-mail saying this was tagged as not to be published. They said they will send a statement from Bigelow himself several hours after launch if successful.

Launch is still on for Thursday and we'll hope the Russians on here will be able to help more than some automated clock on another site.


Thank you. Sorry I missed that. Not enough Coffee yet this morning... :)
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RE: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #61 on: 06/28/2007 02:30 pm »
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I spoke to Chris about coverage and he recieved an e-mail, along with a few other journalists, saying that no information would be released, this came from Bigelow PAO. Even the e-mail saying this was tagged as not to be published. They said they will send a statement from Bigelow himself several hours after launch if successful.

This is a private company, they can do what they want as long as it is within the law. It is quite en vouge here to praise private or new space (Bigelow, SpaceX ...) for being better than big government programs like NASA, and cheaper and the future and so on.

I fear their publicity efforts (or better the lack of these) will leave a bitter taste in the mouth of the space cadet once they do all this exiting stuff (not that I think they will in the forseeable future). Because if they do them, they will do them for profit, NOT for public consumption. This is capitalism. And I already hear the lament of the space cadet, knowing something is going on but not being part of it via documents, pictures, videos etc.

So be careful with your wishes.

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #62 on: 06/28/2007 02:43 pm »
All we can do is respect their wishes, keep an eye on things, report what we can when we get accurate information. If the first note of that is the Bigelow release later today, then so be it.

By the way, their PAO is a good guy.
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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #63 on: 06/28/2007 02:44 pm »
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Tergenev - 28/6/2007  10:02 AM

It's now 14:02 UTC. One hour until the supposed 11:02am EST launch time.

Off by an hour - launch time is planned for 11:02am EDT (about 20 minutes from now)

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #64 on: 06/28/2007 02:57 pm »
If you're hurting for some Bigelow info, look this over, I posted it over at the Russian Launch area too...


I thought everyone would be interested in seeing this website I came across; the company is a non-profit out of Japan that is trying to promote Russian and Ukranian launch services. The site has some amazing photography of the prominent Russian/Ukr launch sites and the places around these sites. I really got the feel of being there. Good stuff...

There is also some photos of the Genesis I launch and Bigelow Team.

Enjoy...

http://www.npointercos.jp/Yasny.html


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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #65 on: 06/28/2007 03:00 pm »
Yeah, well, *I* knew what I meant. :-)  Sorry, I just mis-typed.

2 minutes till the launch time.

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RE: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #66 on: 06/28/2007 03:05 pm »
Well, we're past L-0, so now we wait for some info. We've got our Russian friends watching the Russian media. Bigelow have said they won't say anything until after they hear about the status of the vehicle on orbit (this was a few days ago), so we won't know from them if they've even launched, I'm assuming.
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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #67 on: 06/28/2007 03:17 pm »
Dnepr LAUNCHED at 15:02 UTC (Source information).
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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #68 on: 06/28/2007 03:22 pm »
SPACECRAFT SEPERATION!
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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #69 on: 06/28/2007 03:26 pm »
Thanks for the info Chris.  The plot thickens.  We may soon see SpaceX, Kistler, et. al. having a destination.

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #70 on: 06/28/2007 03:31 pm »
Chris, can you disclose the source?

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RE: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #71 on: 06/28/2007 03:49 pm »
A short report from Jim Oberg, who is at the launch site, who said to pass the word...

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Success! Launch at 9:02 pm local (11:02 am EDT), against a setting sun, Dnepr climbed into the sky to the northeast, and fifteen minutes later deployed Genesis-2 into the correct orbit -- by all indications!

Now the local high school band is playing military marches.

Now it's up to the Bigelow mission control to get the payload inflated and under control...

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #72 on: 06/28/2007 04:01 pm »
Latest SS-18 Launch Mission under Dnepr Program
http://www.kosmotras.ru/20002.htm#inf28

"On June 28, 2007, a converted SS-18 rocket commercially known as Dnepr successfully launched Genesis-2 satellite into its target 550 km orbit inclined 64.5 degrees"

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #73 on: 06/28/2007 04:08 pm »
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anik - 28/6/2007  11:01 AM

Latest SS-18 Launch Mission under Dnepr Program
http://www.kosmotras.ru/20002.htm#inf28

"On June 28, 2007, a converted SS-18 rocket commercially known as Dnepr successfully launched Genesis-2 satellite into its target 550 km orbit inclined 64.5 degrees"

Great news, and thanks to Chris and sources for the news first, again!

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RE: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #74 on: 06/28/2007 04:14 pm »
I wish them well. A space complex would be really something!

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RE: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #75 on: 06/28/2007 05:26 pm »
Genesis II Successfully Launched

Bigelow Aerospace Still Awaits Confirmation of Spacecraft Health and Expansion

Las Vegas, NV 06/28/07 – Genesis II, the second experimental pathfinder spacecraft by Bigelow Aerospace, has been successfully launched and inserted into orbit. The privately-funded space station module was launched atop a Dnepr rocket at 8:02 a.m. PDT from the ISC Kosmotras Yasny Cosmodrome located in the Orenburg region of Russia.

The flight and stage separation of the Dnepr performed nominally, with Genesis II separating from its rocket at 8:16 a.m. PDT into an orbit with an inclination of 64 degrees. Still remaining is initial first contact with Genesis II and confirmation of solar panel deployment, outer shell expansion and spacecraft health. That confirmation is expected sometime after 4:30 p.m. PDT after initial passes over the ground communication station in Fairfax, Va., operated by Bigelow Aerospace partner SpaceQuest Ltd.

Genesis II is the second pathfinder space module designed to test and confirm systems for future manned commercial space modules to be manufactured by Las Vegas-based Bigelow Aerospace. Like other BA spacecraft, Genesis II employs a unique architecture with a flexible outer surface that is wrapped around a central core at launch and expands into orbit through air inflation.

Bigelow Aerospace founder Robert T. Bigelow was on site in Yasny to witness the launch with other BA employees, while other BA personnel were gathered at Mission Control in North Las Vegas.

Bigelow Aerospace Program Manager Eric Haakonstad says with the experience of Genesis I, they were better primed for the launch of Genesis II. “With Genesis I, it was our first rodeo. We didn’t know exactly what to expect,” Haakonstad says. “This time, we were able to perform rehearsals and were more prepared for the launch phase.”

That said, a brief communications difficulty in Russia increased nerves in Mission Control, as there was a delay in confirming Genesis II’s separation from the Dnepr rocket. “Any deviation from nominal magnifys the anxiety. When it came in four minutes later, it was a big relief,” Haakonstad says.

Bigelow Aerospace hopes to provide an update later in the day concerning the status of first contact with Genesis II.  

About Bigelow Aerospace:
The mission of Bigelow Aerospace is to open the frontier of space to all of humanity by dramatically reducing the cost of conducting human spaceflight activities. To this end, Bigelow Aerospace is developing orbital complexes utilizing innovative expandable space habitat technology. The Las Vegas-based firm’s affordable and flexible space complex architecture can be adapted for virtually any crewed or autonomous mission requiring a large pressurized volume. For more information, go to www.bigelowaerospace.com or call (702) 688-6600.
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RE: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #76 on: 06/28/2007 05:44 pm »
BA's What's New Page has just been updated on their site.

http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/index.php

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #77 on: 06/28/2007 06:50 pm »
Woo hoo, I was busy with a software release but I am glad to hear they are flying! Now for deployment....

Great article Chris!!!

For Genesis I - II differences see here http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/out_there/genesis_II_difference.php


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MKremer - 27/6/2007  9:53 PM

But Bigelow themselves aren't going to be flying anything at all - they only plan on selling the modules to others (who'll have to do all the launch contracting and payments, and also figure out and plan and pay for getting the people/equipment to the Bigelow module they bought once it's in orbit).

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Tergenev - 28/6/2007  5:16 AM

I really don't see how NASA's ISS announcement really impacts Bigelow much, if at all. They're attempting to reach two different markets. NASA's 'National Lab' call is clearly aimed at government agencies and scientists at major institutions that want to place experiment packages into a technical environment. Bigelow's plan seems more aimed at the Hiltons, Hyatts, and International Hotels Groups (PLC) of the world, as well as the national space agencies themselves, simply to provide bulk accommodations. So, in ten years, I could maybe see a country like India (but not China) buying a couple modules and lofting them to form an Indian space station, if the Bigelow price were right.

If, on the other hand, a single Indian researcher just wanted to put an experimental package on the ISS to study, say, the background drift of dark matter in local space, that could happen, but I don't think that potential investment would have ever been large enough, or even appropriate, for the purchase of a BA330 module.


I found the article I was looking for about BA's business plan
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1204

As you can see BA never intends to sell his modules (unless the price is right I assume). Instead BA will be a property manager for some of the most costly property in mankind's history. Throwing in transportation maybe chicken feed.  :cool: Be that as it may NASA's recent announcement is bound to impact the short term investment in BA since it is clearly offering private industry free what BA and it's possible tenants would wish to charge for.
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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #78 on: 06/28/2007 10:20 pm »
It's a Good thing.

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Re: Genesis II launch - June 28
« Reply #79 on: 06/28/2007 10:27 pm »
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spacehog - 28/6/2007  11:20 PM

Communication has been established with G2. Solar arrays have deployed, voltage is good, inflation holding.

Great news, thanks for the update Mr Hog :)
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