Author Topic: ATK train with SRB segments crashes again (Read 55910 times)

Chris Bergin · « **on:** 05/02/2007 06:05 pm »

Started in L2, but moving to public as this is now serious.

ATK train with SRB segments crashes again.

L2 memo in the article. All updates here now:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5090

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #1 on:** 05/02/2007 06:18 pm »

http://www.myfoxal.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3090125&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

DaveS · « **Reply #2 on:** 05/02/2007 06:26 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 2/5/2007 8:18 PM
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FOX. Inaccurate as usual. "None of the cargo was spilled"? Kinda hard for something solid to spill.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #3 on:** 05/02/2007 06:36 pm »

No Segments in the water is the latest report.

"The bridge began to collapse as the train began to cross... two locomotives and the pax car went down as the bridge cantilevered down. Two to three segments/rail cars still on the tracks, but the tracks are below grade, one car tipped over, and four further segments/rail cars intact, upright and on tracks."

Roland · « **Reply #4 on:** 05/02/2007 06:38 pm »

Oh Boy!Some Segments fell of the Train-is that right? I think no one will ignite such a Segment on Pad.It sems like we will have further delays on Flights ,or are there Replacements on Stock at ATK?

Flightstar · « **Reply #5 on:** 05/02/2007 06:39 pm »

This is going to mess up the launch schedule for sure.

Norm Hartnett · « **Reply #6 on:** 05/02/2007 06:41 pm »

Congratulations Chris, on Google News your site is the fourth site of four covering the story and the only one one with pictures of a train.

Nicely done.

Jamie Young · « **Reply #7 on:** 05/02/2007 06:45 pm »

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Norm Hartnett - 2/5/2007 1:41 PM

Congratulations Chris, on Google News your site is the fourth site of four covering the story and the only one one with pictures of a train.

Nicely done.

Actually, this site is second with the news, beaten by three lines on a local TV station, first space site to report and with NASA memos. And was on L2 earlier, so first site with the news overall

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #8 on:** 05/02/2007 06:53 pm »

I'm going to be updating the article a few more times it would appear. Lots of memos going into L2, will collate as much as viable into the article for all.

ShuttleDiscovery · « **Reply #9 on:** 05/02/2007 07:00 pm »

I can't believe it's derailed again! This year isn't off to a very good start with all these delays!

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #10 on:** 05/02/2007 07:02 pm »

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ShuttleDiscovery - 2/5/2007 8:00 PM

I can't believe it's derailed again! This year isn't off to a very good start with all these delays!

I think in this case it's not the train's fault. Seems like the bridge caused this (although we all have to wait and just 'assume' right now).

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #11 on:** 05/02/2007 07:06 pm »

An issue with this incident involves the use of the the booster segments involved in this incident (for both STS-120 and STS-122) If one of the segments is determined to need to be scrapped, the other segments and the motor won't fly, as they are matched sets for the shuttle, in order to minmize trust imbalance. They could be used on a Ares 1-X type demo flight, however. The spare motor could be used for static tests as a test item. Certain parts of the scrapped motor would be recycled (washed out and recovered).

jmjawors · « **Reply #12 on:** 05/02/2007 07:11 pm »

Some serious karma at play with the shuttle program this year. Freak hailstorms, train derailments... what next?

ShuttleDiscovery · « **Reply #13 on:** 05/02/2007 07:13 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 2/5/2007 8:06 PM

An issue with this incident involves the use of the the booster segments involved in this incident (for both STS-120 and STS-122) If one of the segments is determined to need to be scrapped, the other segments and the motor won't fly, as they are matched sets for the shuttle, in order to minmize trust imbalance. They could be used on a Ares 1-X type demo flight, however. The spare motor could be used for static tests as a test item. Certain parts of the scrapped motor would be recycled (washed out and recovered).

Oh yeah I forot about the fact that you need to have matching sets. oops!

Lee Jay · « **Reply #14 on:** 05/02/2007 07:15 pm »

Let's just hope the injured people are okay when all is said and done.

Launch Fan · « **Reply #15 on:** 05/02/2007 07:16 pm »

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Lee Jay - 2/5/2007 2:15 PM

Let's just hope the injured people are okay when all is said and done.

Yes, sounds like a nasty shunt. CNN saying they will have video soon.

Martin.cz · « **Reply #16 on:** 05/02/2007 07:21 pm »

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/05/02/derailment.shuttle.ap/index.html

James (Lockheed) · « **Reply #17 on:** 05/02/2007 07:22 pm »

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Martin.cz - 2/5/2007 2:21 PM

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/05/02/derailment.shuttle.ap/index.html

In other words NASA PAO don't know, yet NASA memos on L2 show NASA pretty much know a lot more. Well done to this site.

kimmern123 · « **Reply #18 on:** 05/02/2007 07:26 pm »

Let's just hope the people involved will get well. How long a delay are we looking at here for STS-120 and 122? Long enough to just get 3 launches this year?

Well I've got my share of train crashes lately. Not long ago my mother, sister and grandmother was involved in a crash where the train chrashed into a boulder in the middle of the track. But I digress...

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #19 on:** 05/02/2007 07:26 pm »

NASA saying they believe this is the first serious incident with the booster train in Shuttle history.