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Offline Ben E

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3720 on: 03/02/2023 08:48 am »
Prokopyev will command Exp69 through his crew's return to Earth in September 2023.
Mogensen will command Exp70a from September 2023 through his crew's return to Earth in early 2024.
Kononenko will command Exp70b from early 2024 through his crew's return to Earth in March 2024.

As such, Mogensen becomes the first Danish commander of the ISS.
And Prokopyev will do the longest single continuous ISS command, eclipsing Mike L-A's 202 days on Exp14.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3721 on: 03/02/2023 09:59 am »
Could the Crew-8 announcement mean that Starliner-1 is now H2 2024 ?
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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3722 on: 03/02/2023 10:00 am »
Prokopyev will command Exp69 through his crew's return to Earth in September 2023.
Mogensen will command Exp70a from September 2023 through his crew's return to Earth in early 2024.
Kononenko will command Exp70b from early 2024 through his crew's return to Earth in March 2024.

As such, Mogensen becomes the first Danish commander of the ISS.
And Prokopyev will do the longest single continuous ISS command, eclipsing Mike L-A's 202 days on Exp14.

First and probably only. There is no other Danish astronaut. And no new selection cycle at ESA before end of the ISS program.
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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3723 on: 03/02/2023 12:32 pm »
Could the Crew-8 announcement mean that Starliner-1 is now H2 2024 ?

Roscosmos only said "Crew-8" and nothing about spacecrafts.
I think Russians probably says: if Americans fly their astronauts on Starliner, why ours not?

Prokopyev will command Exp69 through his crew's return to Earth in September 2023.
Mogensen will command Exp70a from September 2023 through his crew's return to Earth in early 2024.
Kononenko will command Exp70b from early 2024 through his crew's return to Earth in March 2024.

As such, Mogensen becomes the first Danish commander of the ISS.
And Prokopyev will do the longest single continuous ISS command, eclipsing Mike L-A's 202 days on Exp14.

About commanding ISS, just add that in the past we have saw rookie astronauts becoming ISS CDRs after a stint as ISS FE: Dmitri Kondratyev (EXP 26-27), Andrei Borisenko (EXP 27-28)...

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3724 on: 03/02/2023 04:14 pm »
Could the Crew-8 announcement mean that Starliner-1 is now H2 2024 ?
Roscosmos only said "Crew-8" and nothing about spacecrafts.
I think Russians probably says: if Americans fly their astronauts on Starliner, why ours not?
This may be a nomenclature issue. I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that the names "Crew-7" and "Crew-8" referred to Crew Dragon missions, and that "Starliner-1" would refer to the Starliner flight. I also think the seat-swap deal was for one seat swap per year, so using two Dragon missions that have an intervening Starliner mission would work out.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3725 on: 03/02/2023 05:12 pm »
Roscosmos only said "Crew-8" and nothing about spacecrafts.
I think Russians probably says: if Americans fly their astronauts on Starliner, why ours not?

Actually, what I read (see Katya Pavluschenko's tweet) does mention Crew Dragon. I wonder if Crew-8 is tentatively listed as next up after Crew-7 until Starliner shows that it is ready to move into that slot, at which point Crew-8 would be delayed six months.

This may be a nomenclature issue. I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that the names "Crew-7" and "Crew-8" referred to Crew Dragon missions, and that "Starliner-1" would refer to the Starliner flight. I also think the seat-swap deal was for one seat swap per year, so using two Dragon missions that have an intervening Starliner mission would work out.

As I understand it, you are correct about nomenclature, although Starliner might be PCM-# instead of Starliner-#.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3726 on: 03/04/2023 08:11 pm »
So is Bowen no longer commanding expedition 69 cuz Ik itís not a reliable source but Wikipedia has Bowen talking command in September idk if thatís true if it isnít thatís a travesty. Considering this is bowenís 4th flight.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3727 on: 03/04/2023 11:15 pm »
So is Bowen no longer commanding expedition 69 cuz Ik itís not a reliable source but Wikipedia has Bowen talking command in September idk if thatís true if it isnít thatís a travesty. Considering this is bowenís 4th flight.

Wikipedia is not a reliable source for flight crew assignments. And just because itís Steve Bowenís fourth flight, it doesnít mean he should be ISS commander. Personally, I donít think it has to do with spaceflight experience.
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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3728 on: 03/04/2023 11:56 pm »
There's an answer to this question in the Expedition 69 thread.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3729 on: 03/05/2023 02:57 am »
Per the mods, this is not the right thread for things like hope and speculation.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3731 on: 03/10/2023 11:09 pm »
Announcement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth Ė Johnson Space Center.

Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.

The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission.

This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.
NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.
Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3732 on: 03/10/2023 11:19 pm »
Announcement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth Ė Johnson Space Center.

Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.

The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission.

This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.
NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.
Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.

If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3733 on: 03/11/2023 01:14 am »
Announcement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth Ė Johnson Space Center.

Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.

The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission.

This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.
NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.
Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.

If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?

https://www.facebook.com/events/1116307635992277/?ref=newsfeed

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3734 on: 03/18/2023 10:52 am »
The final four Hungarian astronauts have been selected for the Axiom seat. Is it known what is the flight ? in the ISS calendar it is said to be AX-5. I did not even know there was an AX-5, I thought the SpaceX Axiom deal covered four missions.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3735 on: 03/19/2023 02:51 am »
AX-5 seemed to be the implication of those dates to me as well. I would conclude that AX-5 has been unofficially planned even if it has not yet been officially planned in the way that AX-2 through AX-4 have been.

The final four Hungarian astronauts have been selected for the Axiom seat. Is it known what is the flight ? in the ISS calendar it is said to be AX-5. I did not even know there was an AX-5, I thought the SpaceX Axiom deal covered four missions.

Hungaryís Professional Astronaut Candidates Presented

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3736 on: 03/21/2023 03:09 pm »
Announcement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth Ė Johnson Space Center.

Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.

The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission.

This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.
NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.
Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.

If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?

https://www.facebook.com/events/1116307635992277/?ref=newsfeed

Just confirmed with NASA -- and I don't know where the original info came from, though that Facebook entry makes it seem official -- only the prime crew will be announced on April 3.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3737 on: 03/22/2023 01:30 pm »
Michael, does that indicate that Artemis II does not require a backup crew? Or will one be announced at a future time?

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3738 on: 03/22/2023 02:23 pm »
Michael, does that indicate that Artemis II does not require a backup crew? Or will one be announced at a future time?

I didn't ask ;) I would assume at least two backup astros at some point. Recall the way the first USCV crews were announced: nine prime for Dragon and Starliner with one Dragon and one Starliner backup revealed some time later.

MC

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3739 on: 03/22/2023 08:19 pm »
Just confirmed with NASA -- and I don't know where the original info came from, though that Facebook entry makes it seem official -- only the prime crew will be announced on April 3.

Michael, do we know the crew position titles in Orion? I've been wondering whether it will be CDR and CMP and LMP, like Apollo, plus something else for the fourth seat (probably FE or MS), or CDR and PLT and MS-1 and MS-2 like in Commercial Crew and the flight deck portion of shuttle crews.

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