So, what do the experts here know about this proposed system?
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Danderman - 20/3/2007 12:52 PMSo, what do the experts here know about this proposed system? :cool:
Danderman - 22/3/2007 5:14 PMHopefully, I can attach an image of OKA-T, so everyone knows what we are talking about!
Satori - 22/3/2007 10:04 AM Well, the only reference I've got was that OKA-T was a free-flying module dedicated to the material processing research based on the ISS russian segment.
I found this old image some years ago, and had no idea what it was supposed to be. Now I think it is an early version of OKA-T.
So if it docks several times over five years will it need to be refueled?http://www.oosa.unvienna.org/pdf/pres/stsc2010/tech-13.pdf
It probably will. I understand it is possible to transfer propellant from the FGB and Service Module tanks to the Progress service module (at least some of the ISS orbit corrections using Progress thrusters are said to be performed with propellants drawn from those tanks), so I would guess a certain amount of propellant can also be transferred to the OKA-T service module for manoeuvres in between dockings.
Quote from: B. Hendrickx on 11/07/2010 08:57 pmIt probably will. I understand it is possible to transfer propellant from the FGB and Service Module tanks to the Progress service module (at least some of the ISS orbit corrections using Progress thrusters are said to be performed with propellants drawn from those tanks), so I would guess a certain amount of propellant can also be transferred to the OKA-T service module for manoeuvres in between dockings.Although propellant can pass from the ISS prop tanks to the Progress mid-thrusters, Progress cannot have its prop tanks replenished from ISS.
Is it not the tank systems on Soyuz/Progress that limit them to a ~6-9 month orbital lifespan?
If this thing is designed for a 5 year lifespan, it has to be a very heavily modified Progress or something completely different (perhaps TKS based as zaitcev noted).
This new image of OKA-T shows it to be a Parom tug plus microgravity module. The Parom section is noteworthy in that it has a 3.3 meter diameter section, which means that it cannot be launched with the standard Progress/Soyuz fairing, which implies it would be launched with the 4.1 meter fairing, which in turn implies launch on Soyuz-2.
Quote from: Danderman on 02/17/2012 02:34 pmThis new image of OKA-T shows it to be a Parom tug plus microgravity module. The Parom section is noteworthy in that it has a 3.3 meter diameter section, which means that it cannot be launched with the standard Progress/Soyuz fairing, which implies it would be launched with the 4.1 meter fairing, which in turn implies launch on Soyuz-2.OKA-T's microgravity module must have a source for energy. This microgravity module does not have solar arrays. It gets its power from the Parom tug. Probably, this Parom tug dedicated to OKA-T
Quote from: Danderman on 11/07/2010 11:47 pmQuote from: B. Hendrickx on 11/07/2010 08:57 pmIt probably will. I understand it is possible to transfer propellant from the FGB and Service Module tanks to the Progress service module (at least some of the ISS orbit corrections using Progress thrusters are said to be performed with propellants drawn from those tanks), so I would guess a certain amount of propellant can also be transferred to the OKA-T service module for manoeuvres in between dockings.Although propellant can pass from the ISS prop tanks to the Progress mid-thrusters, Progress cannot have its prop tanks replenished from ISS.Ok, so the propellant goes directly from the Zarya or Zvezda tanks to the Progress thrusters. Thanks for pointing that out.
Двигательная установка (ДУ) КА «ОКА-Т» должна обеспечивать:- возможность межорбитальных маневров, включая довыведение КА на базовую рабочую орбиту и дополнительные орбиты;- операции по сближению, причаливанию и стыковке с МКС;- требуемую ориентацию и стабилизацию КА «ОКА-Т» при проведении научных и технологических экспериментов;- дозаправку из топливных баков РС МКС (ППТС).Пневмогидросистема КА «ОКА-Т» должна обеспечивать возможность ее многократной дозаправки компонентами топлива с борта МКС (ППТС). Компоненты топлива ДУ КА «ОКА-Т» должны быть совместимы с компонентами топлива МКС: АТин (ОСТ В113-03-503-85) + НДМГ (ГОСТ В17803-72).При дозаправке топливной системы КА «ОКА-Т» с МКС должно обеспечиваться восстановление работоспособности вытеснительной системы подачи топлива.
КА «ОКА-Т» состоит из двух отсеков: специального отсека, разработанного ГНПРКЦ «ЦСКБ-Прогресс», и служебного модуля, разработанного РКК «Энергия» им. С.П.Королева. Специальный отсек и служебный модуль образуют единый гермообъем.
As far as I know, RSC Energia is prime contractor for OKA-T, but I don't think the contract is very large.The only news for 2013 for OKA-T that I could find was this Russian story:http://ria.ru/science/20130604/941222988.htmlBasically, they were looking for some cash from Europe to get this off the dime.
Quote from: Danderman on 01/04/2014 09:28 pmAs far as I know, RSC Energia is prime contractor for OKA-T, but I don't think the contract is very large.The only news for 2013 for OKA-T that I could find was this Russian story:http://ria.ru/science/20130604/941222988.htmlBasically, they were looking for some cash from Europe to get this off the dime.surprised with the MLM mess Europe would go for this.
...To camouflage their "little trick," Russian space officials began characterizing the 2018 milestone as the "first launch within the manned space program," instead of the first "manned launch," without specifying what exactly would fly from Vostochny in 2018. As a result, the official Russian media continued its cheerleading of the upcoming manned launch from Vostochny. In reality, no cosmonaut would be able to blast off from Vostochny until 2020s, when the new-generation spacecraft and the Angara-5 rocket are finally certified to carry the crew.Then, during Vladimir Putin's visit to Vostochny on Sept. 2, 2014, an official TV report caught a glimpse of a presentation handed out at a meeting chaired by the Russian president. The document revealed drawings of the Oka-T module and the Soyuz-2 rocket under a title "Achieving the first launch within manned space program in 2018."Given the enormous political weight of the 2018 deadline, there is little doubt that a long-delayed Oka-T mission will finally get proper funding and attention. Moreover, given a possible multi-year gap between the introduction of the Oka-T and the arrival of the manned spacecraft at Vostochny, multiple Oka-T missions could be undertaken. However developers will likely be hard-pressed to provide the new platforms with adequate scientific payloads...