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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #80 on: 03/20/2007 09:57 pm »
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That doesn't make any sense- one of the demonstration elements is a low-cost TDRSS transceiver... You'd think that RF compatibility testing between the launch vehicle and one of the intended payloads would have been performed at the vehicle level and launch (e.g. including the range) configuration  long before launch day???


Maybe something else is using the TDRS on the requested 'frequency'. That would explain a TDRS RF conflict. They are not the only TDRS user.
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #81 on: 03/20/2007 09:59 pm »
Q: [What payload elements will separate on this flight]
A: It is an aluminum ring which is attached to the top half of the [flight bed].

Q: And is the 2nd stage doing two burns tonight?
A: We hope to do two burns, the second burn is a test burn.
The second burn is about 2700 second after the initial burn, so just after an hour after lift-off.


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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #82 on: 03/20/2007 10:00 pm »
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That doesn't make any sense- one of the demonstration elements is a low-cost TDRSS transceiver... You'd think that RF compatibility testing between the launch vehicle and one of the intended payloads would have been performed at the vehicle level and launch (e.g. including the range) configuration  long before launch day???


Maybe something else is using the TDRS on the requested 'frequency'. That would explain a TDRS RF conflict. They are not the only TDRS user.

Launch support is the high priority for TDRSS.  Also other users (other than an aircraft, very few of these) wouldn't be in the Kwaj field of view very long

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #83 on: 03/20/2007 10:01 pm »
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There seems to be an RF conflict between the payload and the TDRSS.  They are willing to turn off the TDRSS for this flight because the mission is to demonstrate the vehicle.

That doesn't make any sense- one of the demonstration elements is a low-cost TDRSS transceiver... You'd think that RF compatibility testing between the launch vehicle and one of the intended payloads would have been performed at the vehicle level and launch (e.g. including the range) configuration  long before launch day???


More to the point, why didn't this show up yesterday?

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #84 on: 03/20/2007 10:02 pm »
The aluminum ring which will separate is apparently the ring upon which the payload would sit.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #85 on: 03/20/2007 10:04 pm »
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Q: [What payload elements will separate on this flight]
A: It is an aluminum ring which is attached to the top half of the [flight bed].


So we have a passive DemoSat satellite, right?

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #86 on: 03/20/2007 10:06 pm »
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Q: [What payload elements will separate on this flight]
A: It is an aluminum ring which is attached to the top half of the [flight bed].


So we have a passive DemoSat satellite, right?

Only if you count the aluminum ring, from what Gwynne just said.  She said she specifically didn't want anyone to characterize it as a "mock payload", because they really just want to test separation, and it won't be in orbit for long.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #87 on: 03/20/2007 10:07 pm »
The web cast page has switched to "Watch the Webcast", but I have been unable to get it to launch myself yet (and Gwynne didn't mention success on her end either).

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #89 on: 03/20/2007 10:08 pm »

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braddock - 20/3/2007 11:07 PM The web cast page has switched to "Watch the Webcast", but I have been unable to get it to launch myself yet (and Gwynne didn't mention success on her end either).

It is running, and there is sound


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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #90 on: 03/20/2007 10:09 pm »
RP-1 and LOX is being loaded into both stages.
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #91 on: 03/20/2007 10:10 pm »

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braddock - 20/3/2007 5:59 PM Q: [What payload elements will separate on this flight] A: It is an aluminum ring which is attached to the top half of the [flight bed].
So we have a passive DemoSat satellite, right?
Only if you count the aluminum ring, from what Gwynne just said. She said she specifically didn't want anyone to characterize it as a "mock payload", because they really just want to test separation, and it won't be in orbit for long.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #92 on: 03/20/2007 10:10 pm »
Wind looks pretty high.
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Wind looks pretty high.

Observed at:   Kwajalein, MH
Elevation:   26 ft / 8 m

   86 °F / 30 °C
Mostly Cloudy
Humidity:   68%
Dew Point:   74 °F / 24 °C
Wind:   16 mph / 26 km/h / 7.2 m/s  from the NE  

Pressure:   29.90 in / 1012 hPa
Heat Index:   95 °F / 35 °C
Visibility:   10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers
UV:   5 out of 16
Clouds:   Few 2500 ft / 762 m
Few 6500 ft / 1981 m
Few 20000 ft / 6096 m
Scattered Clouds 30000 ft / 9144 m
Mostly Cloudy 40000 ft / 12192 m
(Above Ground Level)
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #94 on: 03/20/2007 10:11 pm »
Chris, can I have the link to this site?
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #96 on: 03/20/2007 10:12 pm »

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bad_astra - 20/3/2007 11:10 PM Wind looks pretty high.
It doesn't look as bad as yesterday, but the vapour is being blown a fair bit. Different camera as well. I think this is the angle they used on the maiden flight. Let's hope it goes today, and reaches orbit. Good luck Falcon.

 EDIT: They've just switched to the camera they used yesterday.


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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #97 on: 03/20/2007 10:13 pm »

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LIBERTY - 20/3/2007  11:11 PM

Chris, can I have the link to this site?

Sure. I'm using a mix of these:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/productview.php?pil=RWRPQ

Marine forecast for Majuro:

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/majuro/majuroPublic.php

Aviation forecasts for the Army Air Field:

http://en.allmetsat.com/metar-taf/micronesia-melanesia.php?icao=PKW...

http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/91366.html
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #99 on: 03/20/2007 10:14 pm »
Direct link to webcast for use with VLC etc

mms://a141.|2216521225.c22165.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/141/22165/v0001reflector:21225


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