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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #220 on: 03/20/2007 11:53 pm »
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Q: what would you like fuel temp to be.
"We like it to be between 78 -80 deg F, it was 76." [they don't abort on fuel temperature, just chamber temp.]

Chamber temp or pressure?

typo, sorry, she said chamber pressure, not temp.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #221 on: 03/20/2007 11:54 pm »
The wind seems to really be cranking... what is their criteria for that?  any concerns voiced before?

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #222 on: 03/20/2007 11:54 pm »

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Second stage fueling complete. Count re-starting in 30 seconds.
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #224 on: 03/20/2007 11:54 pm »
Part of their DARPA goals is to demonstrate responsive launch, they certainly are doing that today.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #226 on: 03/20/2007 11:55 pm »
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Does anyone have any insight as to how SpaceX plans to fix the low chamber pressure issue? I am certain that their plan is not to simply try again, this time with their fingers crossed.


I get the impression they are simply going to try and again and hope it was a one off.

Warmer fuel should fix the chamber pressure

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #227 on: 03/20/2007 11:55 pm »
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The wind seems to really be cranking... what is their criteria for that?  any concerns voiced before?

They have a very high ground wind tolerance.  It is not supposed to be an issue.
(I wish the camera had a better time with it though...)

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #228 on: 03/20/2007 11:55 pm »
looks/sounds like the engine/turbine ran up to 'full thrust' but the chamber pressure was low enough to voilate the limits (redline) and abort occured.
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #229 on: 03/20/2007 11:55 pm »
Count has resumed at T-16.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #230 on: 03/20/2007 11:57 pm »
Polling of team shows all are go!
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #231 on: 03/20/2007 11:59 pm »
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looks/sounds like the engine/turbine ran up to 'full thrust' but the chamber pressure was low enough to voilate the limits (redline) and abort occured.

Only low by .1% of thrust.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #232 on: 03/21/2007 12:00 am »

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 Not really.  The DARPA objective was to go from start of payload mating to launch in a given time, say 7 days.  Weeks, months, and years of slips - with 'dumb' payloads - doesn't exactly accomplish that goal. 


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Coming up to T-10 minutes and re-entering the terminal count (again).
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #234 on: 03/21/2007 12:01 am »
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looks/sounds like the engine/turbine ran up to 'full thrust' but the chamber pressure was low enough to voilate the limits (redline) and abort occured.

Only low by .1% of thrust.

The problem is that you create mission constraints documents prior to launch specifically so you don't feel obligated to violate your own rules on launch day.

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #235 on: 03/21/2007 12:01 am »
Vehicle is going to internal power again.
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Ok guys, let's cut the chatter down again at T-5 minutes.
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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #237 on: 03/21/2007 12:02 am »
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Is rain an issue on the vehicle surface with LOX loaded?

Ice is not an issue for ELV's, only the shuttle.  

Too many people have grown up on the shuttle and don't watch ELV's

What about ice shedding onto SRB's on an ELV?

no issue

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #238 on: 03/21/2007 12:02 am »

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 20 (Attempt 2)
« Reply #239 on: 03/21/2007 12:04 am »
Flight termination system is ready. Inertial navigation alignment is proceeding.
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