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#80
by
TFGQ
on 27 Feb, 2007 18:21
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101 is Pad 39-B
001 is Pad 39-A
080 is VAB
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#81
by
DaveS
on 27 Feb, 2007 18:29
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jmjawors - 27/2/2007 8:19 PM
Either way, that crawler has been there for quite some time... at least a week.
Yep, in readiness of rolling MLP-1 off 39B.
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#82
by
Chris Bergin
on 27 Feb, 2007 18:56
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Rollback on Sunday is the current plan.
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#83
by
Michael22090
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:01
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Chris Bergin - 27/2/2007 1:56 PM
Rollback on Sunday is the current plan.
Thanks for the update Chris.
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#84
by
Chris Bergin
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:08
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#85
by
psloss
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:16
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FYI, this just hit the NASA Shuttle page:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.htmlExcerpt:
02.27.07 - 3:10 p.m. EST
NASA officials have confirmed that Space Shuttle Atlantis will roll back to the Vehicle Assembly Building for further assessment after yesterday's hail storm event. Additional details will be available at the press briefing being held today at 4 p.m. EST.
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#86
by
Zoomer30
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:24
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The weather pattern right now is very stormy, I live in Iowa and got nailed by the big one this past weekend, round 2 is due in Wed and will probaly last till Friday, figure when that one gets to the East Coast Florida will see more hail. Large hail is not common in Florida simply becasue the air is usuually far to warm at the low levels to support the formation of the stones. Large hailstones can make many trips up and down the storm before finally they are to heavy and fall to the ground. Storms THIS time of air have plenty of cold air even in FL, so large hail can happen.
I wonder why the RSS was not around the ship, it has the "garage door" protection for the back part of the wings.
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#87
by
nathan.moeller
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:25
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Zoomer30 - 27/2/2007 2:24 PM
The weather pattern right now is very stormy, I live in Iowa and got nailed by the big one this past weekend, round 2 is due in Wed and will probaly last till Friday, figure when that one gets to the East Coast Florida will see more hail. Large hail is not common in Florida simply becasue the air is usuually far to warm at the low levels to support the formation of the stones. Large hailstones can make many trips up and down the storm before finally they are to heavy and fall to the ground. Storms THIS time of air have plenty of cold air even in FL, so large hail can happen.
I wonder why the RSS was not around the ship, it has the "garage door" protection for the back part of the wings.
RSS was around the ship. I'm not sure how the wing got hit.
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#88
by
psloss
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:27
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nathan.moeller - 27/2/2007 3:25 PM
Zoomer30 - 27/2/2007 2:24 PM
I wonder why the RSS was not around the ship, it has the "garage door" protection for the back part of the wings.
RSS was around the ship. I'm not sure how the wing got hit.
Yup; the damage would very likely have been worse without it and the weather protection panels.
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#89
by
Chris Bergin
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:29
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Wing damage is "pretty bad" - source. Which is ambigous, but working on getting images.
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#90
by
rdale
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:31
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Zoomer30 - 27/2/2007 3:24 PM
figure when that one gets to the East Coast Florida will see more hail. Large hail is not common in Florida simply becasue the air is usuually far to warm at the low levels to support the formation of the stones. Large hailstones can make many trips up and down the storm
The storm you'll get has no bearing on Florida's weather, so odds are not very good at all for them to see hail again soon. The up-n-down hail theory seems to be falling by the wayside, thanks in part to 3D doppler views... Anyways I'll bring this in from L2 now:
Could have been worse - radar is indicating 2.5" hail as the cell passed south of the landing strip towards VAB! Here's a 3D view of the storm
http://skywatch.org/kmlb-vol.png and output showing potential hail size (1.86" indicated in the diamond)
http://skywatch.org/kmlb-mesh.png
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#91
by
nathan.moeller
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:31
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Chris Bergin - 27/2/2007 2:29 PM
Wing damage is "pretty bad" - source. Which is ambigous, but working on getting images.
I'm definitely curious to see the damage. Has anyone said whether the damage is all on TPS or is the top part of the wing busted up as well?
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#92
by
psloss
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:35
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rdale - 27/2/2007 3:31 PM
Could have been worse - radar is indicating 2.5" hail as the cell passed south of the landing strip towards VAB! Here's a 3D view of the storm http://skywatch.org/kmlb-vol.png and output showing potential hail size (1.86" indicated in the diamond) http://skywatch.org/kmlb-mesh.png
Rob,
What was the general direction of movement of the cell?
Thanks.
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#93
by
HKS
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:35
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Chris Bergin - 27/2/2007 9:29 PM
Wing damage is "pretty bad" - source. Which is ambigous, but working on getting images.
If the damage is bad, and Atlantis is in for some R&R an a longer stay in the OPF, can it be an option for NASA to swap orbiters? Fly S3/S4 with Endeavour in June?
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#94
by
Andy L
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:37
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nathan.moeller - 27/2/2007 2:31 PM
Chris Bergin - 27/2/2007 2:29 PM
Wing damage is "pretty bad" - source. Which is ambigous, but working on getting images.
I'm definitely curious to see the damage. Has anyone said whether the damage is all on TPS or is the top part of the wing busted up as well?
Someone who doesn't read the news articles on here :angry:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5035"'There were around 27 Orbiter tile damages located on the port side chine and wing tip area,' added the 1pm NASA memo. 'Many of the damages were depressed coating with no visible base substrate showing. The worst case (depth wise) .5'' x.5'' x.12 in depth. RCCs have no visible damage, but will be inspected in the VAB."
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#95
by
nathan.moeller
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:39
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HKS - 27/2/2007 2:35 PM
Chris Bergin - 27/2/2007 9:29 PM
Wing damage is "pretty bad" - source. Which is ambigous, but working on getting images.
If the damage is bad, and Atlantis is in for some R&R an a longer stay in the OPF, can it be an option for NASA to swap orbiters? Fly S3/S4 with Endeavour in June?
That's actually a really interesting point. But I don't think Endeavour will be ready to fly before the end of June. But if Atlantis is in OPF-1 passed the planned time, I would guess calling up Endeavour would be a possibility.
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#96
by
nathan.moeller
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:42
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Andy L - 27/2/2007 2:37 PM
Someone who doesn't read the news articles on here :angry:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5035
"'There were around 27 Orbiter tile damages located on the port side chine and wing tip area,' added the 1pm NASA memo. 'Many of the damages were depressed coating with no visible base substrate showing. The worst case (depth wise) .5'' x.5'' x.12 in depth. RCCs have no visible damage, but will be inspected in the VAB."
I read that already. I asked because I don't understand all the NASA-speak. What is chine? What is substrate? I don't know where either are located. Wing tip can mean upper or lower side. I wouldn't have asked if knew those answers.
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#97
by
gordo
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:43
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TV news stations just broke the news....... 6 hours after Chris and the team.
Well done all
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#98
by
nathan.moeller
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:44
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gordo - 27/2/2007 2:43 PM
TV news stations just broke the news....... 6 hours after Chris and the team.
Well done all
Amen. NASA's official site didn't break it until just a little while ago. SFN was way behind as well. We won't go into mainstream media
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#99
by
landofgrey
on 27 Feb, 2007 19:47
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A minor note about the crawler on the crawlerway, I (think) it was already on the roadbed prior to yesterday's storm. I may be wrong, but that's what I remember anyway.
