Hail Damage at Pad A (STS-117) - ROLLBACK

• #200 by DaveS on 01 Mar, 2007 12:35
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  shuttlefan - 1/3/2007  2:30 PM
  
  Chris, can you confirm that they've decided to rollback with the hypergolic propellants still onboard, therefore rollback would begin around midnight Saturday?

  Rollback is now Sunday or Monday as they have decided to offload the OMS/RCS propellants.
• #201 by rdale on 01 Mar, 2007 12:53
• "Look at today's forecast for potential hazardous weather in Central Florida!!"
  
  Best bet is north of KSC associated with a monster storm system moving through the east half of the country...
  
  Good news on rollback delay - I'm on the "Up Close" tour Monday!
• #202 by mkirk on 01 Mar, 2007 12:56
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  DaveS - 1/3/2007  7:35 AM
  
  Rollback is now Sunday or Monday as they have decided to offload the OMS/RCS propellants.

  
  Where did you here that?  
  
  Last I heard they were going to adjust the OMS quatity today because it was slightly over serviced during loading.  Rollout was still targeted for Saturday morning.
  
  Mark Kirkman
• #203 by DaveS on 01 Mar, 2007 12:58
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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  2:56 PM
  Where did you here that?  
  

  Here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
  "02.28.07 - 6:10 p.m. EST
  NASA officials have decided to remove propellants that were loaded this week on Space Shuttle Atlantis before returning the spacecraft to the Vehicle Assembly Building. This work results in additional time at the pad, and rollback is now expected to occur Sunday or Monday."
• #204 by mkirk on 01 Mar, 2007 13:02
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  DaveS - 1/3/2007  7:58 AM
  
  

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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  2:56 PM
  Where did you here that?  
  

  Here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
  "02.28.07 - 6:10 p.m. EST
  NASA officials have decided to remove propellants that were loaded this week on Space Shuttle Atlantis before returning the spacecraft to the Vehicle Assembly Building. This work results in additional time at the pad, and rollback is now expected to occur Sunday or Monday."

  
  Thanks, as you can see I have pretty much tunned out the public information stuff because it is usually not timely.
  
  I can see needing the extra time, but I am still not convinced this is a full off-load.  Like I said earlier I believe they are just adjusting the quantity - that is what I was briefed yesterday afternoon. I will check on this.
  
  Mark Kirkman
• #205 by joebacsi on 01 Mar, 2007 14:05
• The poor bird... Last time the lightning, now the hailstorm... Just doesn't have the luck...
• #206 by GLS on 01 Mar, 2007 14:16
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  Concorde - 1/3/2007  12:07 PM
  
  

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  alan w - 28/2/2007  12:30 PM
  
  

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  Concorde - 28/2/2007  3:52 AM
  
  Jumping the gun a little but if we're talking late April/early May would this be a day or night launch ?

  
  Yeah does any one know

  
  To answer my own question, I have found an article from last year which suggested that if they wanted a daylight launch, then they would have to wait until the April 20 window.

  
  For an April 22 launch, I think it will be around 1905 GMT (1505 EDT) or so....
• #207 by Chris Bergin on 01 Mar, 2007 14:39
• STS 117 / OV 104 / Pad A
  Hyper servicing complete
  OMS quantity reduction in work
• #208 by punkboi on 01 Mar, 2007 16:04
• Anyone know if the S3/S4 truss will be left in Atlantis' cargo bay...or remain in the RSS or be brought back to the SSPF to have its batteries recharged/replaced?
• #209 by jmjawors on 01 Mar, 2007 16:09
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  punkboi - 1/3/2007  11:04 AM
  
  Anyone know if the S3/S4 truss will be left in Atlantis' cargo bay...or remain in the RSS or be brought back to the SSPF to have its batteries recharged/replaced?

  
  It will be removed from the payload bay and kept at the pad.
• #210 by punkboi on 01 Mar, 2007 16:16

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  jmjawors - 1/3/2007 9:09 AM

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  punkboi - 1/3/2007 11:04 AM Anyone know if the S3/S4 truss will be left in Atlantis' cargo bay...or remain in the RSS or be brought back to the SSPF to have its batteries recharged/replaced?

  It will be removed from the payload bay and kept at the pad.

   Cool.  Thanks

  EDIT: Sorry... Someone can delete my previous post :bleh:

• #211 by shuttlefan on 01 Mar, 2007 16:51
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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  8:02 AM
  
  

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  DaveS - 1/3/2007  7:58 AM
  
  

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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  2:56 PM
  Where did you here that?  
  

  Here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
  "02.28.07 - 6:10 p.m. EST
  NASA officials have decided to remove propellants that were loaded this week on Space Shuttle Atlantis before returning the spacecraft to the Vehicle Assembly Building. This work results in additional time at the pad, and rollback is now expected to occur Sunday or Monday."

  
  Thanks, as you can see I have pretty much tunned out the public information stuff because it is usually not timely.
  
  I can see needing the extra time, but I am still not convinced this is a full off-load.  Like I said earlier I believe they are just adjusting the quantity - that is what I was briefed yesterday afternoon. I will check on this.
  
  Mark Kirkman

  
  I've understood all along here that they decided to fully-load the propellants and then that would be one less thing to do once they get back on the pad...
  Sorry, I now have read that they will indeed remove the propellants and rollback has been reset for 7am Sunday. I stand corrected!! :cool:
• #212 by anik on 01 Mar, 2007 17:13
• According to current plan, there will be Soyuz TMA-10 relocation from Zvezda module to Zarya module on April 27 and possible ISS orbit's raisings by Zvezda's engines for preparation to STS-117 and Progress M-60...
  
  These events can not be postponed, therefore it means that STS-117 launch is possible from the beginning of May only...
• #213 by Chris Bergin on 01 Mar, 2007 18:35
• STS 117 / OV 104 / Pad A
  Hyper deservicing in work
  Pad opening estimate 24:00 tonight
  Payload removal to begin at triple balls 1 on Friday
• #214 by Chris Bergin on 01 Mar, 2007 18:35
• Rollback now 7am Sunday.
• #215 by Zoomer30 on 01 Mar, 2007 18:55
• Makes me wish they had kept the "Mobile Service Structure" system they had in Apollo.  Just enclose the whole stack, this is an expensive issue they have now.
• #216 by rdale on 01 Mar, 2007 19:13
• "this is an expensive issue they have now"
  
  It really isn't, if you watch the press conference the money issue was discussed and it has no impact on the budget...
• #217 by mkirk on 01 Mar, 2007 19:18
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  shuttlefan - 1/3/2007  11:51 AM
  
  

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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  8:02 AM
  
  

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  DaveS - 1/3/2007  7:58 AM
  
  

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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  2:56 PM
  Where did you here that?  
  

  Here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
  "02.28.07 - 6:10 p.m. EST
  NASA officials have decided to remove propellants that were loaded this week on Space Shuttle Atlantis before returning the spacecraft to the Vehicle Assembly Building. This work results in additional time at the pad, and rollback is now expected to occur Sunday or Monday."

  
  Thanks, as you can see I have pretty much tunned out the public information stuff because it is usually not timely.
  
  I can see needing the extra time, but I am still not convinced this is a full off-load.  Like I said earlier I believe they are just adjusting the quantity - that is what I was briefed yesterday afternoon. I will check on this.
  
  Mark Kirkman

  
  I've understood all along here that they decided to fully-load the propellants and then that would be one less thing to do once they get back on the pad...
  Sorry, I now have read that they will indeed remove the propellants and rollback has been reset for 7am Sunday. I stand corrected!! :cool:

  
  
  
  
  It looks like I was late to the party on this one!
  
  I had been briefed yesterdy afternoon about a potential need to adjust quantity of OMS do to slight over servicing. I was also under the impression that everyone had signed off on any potential need for the OPF with OMS/RCS as is.  Rollback was still set for Saturday at that time.
  
  I was really amused/surprised that Dave S found out the correct info this morning from the Main NASA Shuttle News Page - that is the last place anyone would look for timely and acurate shuttle news.  
  
  Even the coda-phone from PAO, which is supposed to be the latest and greatest info (which it never is) for the media, wasn't updated until later in the morning.
  
  Mark Kirkman
  
• #218 by jmjawors on 01 Mar, 2007 19:45
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  mkirk - 1/3/2007  2:18 PM
  
  I was really amused/surprised that Dave S found out the correct info this morning from the Main NASA Shuttle News Page - that is the last place anyone would look for timely and acurate shuttle news.  
  
  

  
  You may find it even more amusing that this was updated on nasa.gov last night and reported in this thread at that point.  
  
  I share your frustration with their website as a source of "news," but this time they were right on top of it.  
  
  *shrug*
• #219 by alan w on 01 Mar, 2007 22:38
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  anik - 1/3/2007  12:13 PM
  These events can not be postponed, therefore it means that STS-117 launch is possible from the beginning of May only...

  
  is this really true, can anyone comment on this statement? thanks