Author Topic: Full Text of SpaceX legal action against Boeing/Lockmart over EELV Monopoly  (Read 14830 times)

Offline kcowing

  • Veteran
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 149
  • Liked: 0
  • Likes Given: 0
Full Summons and Complaint by SpaceX
against Boeing Company and Lockheed Martin Corporation (complete document)


"1. This is an action by Space Exploration Technologies Corporation ("SpaceX") against the Boeing Company and Lockheed Martin Corporation for violations of antitrust, unfair competition and racketeering laws. Boeing and Lockheed Martin have engaged in an unlawful conspiracy to eliminate competition in, and utlimately to monopolize, the government space launch business and prevent SpaceX and other potential new entrants from competing in that business."

Offline Chris Bergin

We've had people looking for that everywhere. Nice one Keith!
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline Flightstar

  • Lurking around OPF High Bay 2
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1896
  • KSC, Florida
  • Liked: 88
  • Likes Given: 8
Good luck Elon, you'll need it. At least you'll get yourself in the news. Media stunting at its best.

Offline Andy L

  • Veteran
  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 257
  • Liked: 0
  • Likes Given: 0
Yes, but Lockmart etc do have those government contracts that keep them more than happy at a cost they can practically choose for themselves. Look at Haliburton and Iraq!

Offline FransonUK

  • Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me...don't ya
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 867
  • Liked: 4
  • Likes Given: 1
Defaming in the text if you ask me. Lockheed Martin and Boeing could try and counter claim on that, but then it would open themselves up. This is quiet clever of SpaceX.
Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me

Offline realtime

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
  • Liked: 2
  • Likes Given: 16
Sweet!  They're using the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), the same statute that did in The Mob!  Go to page 28 for the dirt:

Quote
Boeing has violated RICO through a pattern and practice of economic espionage to corrupt the government procurement process, to preclude lawful competition on the merits and to harm competitors, including SpaceX.
This strikes to the heart of it:

Quote
Boeing and Lockheed Martin's agreement to merge their government EELV businesses into the monopoly ULA, and their coordinated efforts to maintain their dominant positions through actions designed to preclude competition in the EELV market - including competition from SpaceX - have destroyed any pretense of competition in the sale of EELVs to the government
Paragraph 116 on page 36 provides a pretty good summary of the case if you don't want to wade through it all.  Basically it says that because of Boeing's treachery, competitive bidding between Boeing and LM for Air Force EELV contracts was now impossible.  So the Air Force was forced to reward contracts to Boeing and LM (as ULA) on a noncompetitive basis, thus locking out all other competition, including SpaceX.

I think SpaceX has a pretty good case.

Being forced to move their Falcon-1 test launch off Vandenburg or delay indefinitely because of Delta-IV may have been the last straw for Elon Musk.


Offline Avron

  • Canadian Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4930
  • Liked: 156
  • Likes Given: 160
Wow... at last... This is criminal yes?  FBI could ignore it?... money would flow and quick to keep them quiet, but maybe its a little late, so you ask who is funding SpaceX? it they get it right - 'Boeing/Lockmart ' and maybe NASA... (USAF, would just love it, just a guess)

Offline realtime

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
  • Liked: 2
  • Likes Given: 16
No telling how long this is going to drag on.  USAF could weigh in and force a settlement.  NASA could apply pressure.  It's definitely in their best interest to do so.

I don't blame Griffin from steering well clear of that fetid EELV mess when planning VSE.


Offline Chris Bergin

Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline Avron

  • Canadian Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4930
  • Liked: 156
  • Likes Given: 160
Quote
Chris Bergin - 24/10/2005  1:29 PM

Summary Article from our writers:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=3937

"They are accused of violating the first and second sections of the Sherman Act, which declares any restraint of trade or commerce illegal, and any corporation attempting to monopolize trade as guilty of a felony. "

I read criminal ? FBI?


Offline Terry Rocket

  • Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 325
  • Birmingham, England
  • Liked: 1
  • Likes Given: 2
It's going to be a mess when those lawyers from each parties class. Is this actually going to court then?

Offline tommy

  • Member
  • Posts: 80
  • Liked: 0
  • Likes Given: 0
Good article. I couldn't really work out what the documents said or meant. That helps me. thanks.

Offline braddock

  • NSF Private Space Flight Editor
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 991
  • Liked: 16
  • Likes Given: 8
Boeing and Lockheed Martin have 20 days to respond to the summons.  It will be presented to Magistrate Judge Margaret Nagle to hear discovery motions.  So yes, it is going to court.

However, I personally think that SpaceX filed this to get the FTC to rule against the ULA.  I don't think the primary purpose of this lawsuit is to actually to win.

If you read the actual summons, you get the feeling that SpaceX is writing FOR the FTC, saying "just LOOK at how these jokers have been behaving!  Don't give them an authorized monopoly!"  Otherwise, they have a VERY weak case for damages, since they don't even have an EELV-class rocket yet.

-Braddock Gaskill

Offline FransonUK

  • Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me...don't ya
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 867
  • Liked: 4
  • Likes Given: 1
Yes, I got the impression that was how this was all presented too. Clever of SpaceX, but it is a large can of worms at the same time.
Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me

Offline Boris the Space Dog

  • Member
  • Posts: 18
  • Liked: 0
  • Likes Given: 0
If Boeing and Lockmart don't respond, is that an admission of guilt?
Barking where no dog has barked before.

Offline FransonUK

  • Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me...don't ya
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 867
  • Liked: 4
  • Likes Given: 1
Quote
Boris the Space Dog - 24/10/2005  2:33 PM

If Boeing and Lockmart don't respond, is that an admission of guilt?

If this was the UK legal system, then they'd be expected to give reasons why they are not legally responding, given the suit practically defames their business practises.
Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me

Offline James Lowe1

  • Member
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 846
  • New York City
  • Liked: 1
  • Likes Given: 0
Maybe SpaceX knew they win on both options? 1) If they don't respond, they get their message across to the right people. 2) If they do respond, then they get their publicity.

Offline braddock

  • NSF Private Space Flight Editor
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 991
  • Liked: 16
  • Likes Given: 8
Page one of the summons states: "YOU ARE HEREBY SUMMONED and required to serve on [PLAINTIFFS ATTORNEY] an answer to the complaint ... within TWENTY days after service of this summons on you... If you fail to do so, judgement by default will be taken against you for the relief demanded in the complaint.  Any answer that you serve on the parties to this action must be filed with the Clerk of this Court within a reasonable period of time after service."

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems ignoring a US District Court summons might be a bad idea.  :)

Braddock Gaskill

Offline Peter NASA

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1309
  • SOMD
  • Liked: 9308
  • Likes Given: 98
It's going to be messy, that you can be sure of.

Offline James Lowe1

  • Member
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 846
  • New York City
  • Liked: 1
  • Likes Given: 0
Quote
braddock - 24/10/2005  4:17 PM

Page one of the summons states: "YOU ARE HEREBY SUMMONED and required to serve on [PLAINTIFFS ATTORNEY] an answer to the complaint ... within TWENTY days after service of this summons on you... If you fail to do so, judgement by default will be taken against you for the relief demanded in the complaint.  Any answer that you serve on the parties to this action must be filed with the Clerk of this Court within a reasonable period of time after service."

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems ignoring a US District Court summons might be a bad idea.  :)

Braddock Gaskill

Thanks, that would be a bad idea!

Tags:
 

Advertisement NovaTech
Advertisement Northrop Grumman
Advertisement
Advertisement Margaritaville Beach Resort South Padre Island
Advertisement Brady Kenniston
Advertisement NextSpaceflight
Advertisement Nathan Barker Photography
0