STS-117: Atlantis in the VAB Updates

STS-117: Atlantis in the VAB Updates by Chris Bergin on 07 Feb, 2007 14:27
This thread is to keep up with the images and updates on Atlantis' time in the VAB before next week's rollout (will be a new thread).
#1 by Rapoc on 07 Feb, 2007 14:32
Meanwhile at SSPF
#2 by eeergo on 07 Feb, 2007 14:33
I've just noticed that they're preparing to move S3-S4 to the payload cameras right now, as seen in KSC video feeds: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html

EDIT: Rapoc just beat me to it
#3 by paulhbell07 on 07 Feb, 2007 14:40
Only 5 weeks to launch. Exciting times ahead. This is going to be a good year for the ISS.
#4 by Wisi on 07 Feb, 2007 15:10
S3/S4 being lifted into the canister
#5 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 15:30
Great video feed!

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/rrg2.pl?encoder/sspf.rm
#6 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 15:35
Truss being lowered into canister at this time.
#7 by Wisi on 07 Feb, 2007 15:36
more images:
#8 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 15:46
I imagine its next ride will be considerably rougher than that little excursion.
#9 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 15:47
In the meantime, the hoisting sling is being moved into position around Atlantis for the move to the vertical position, which I believe will be later today sometime.
#10 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 15:59
Looks like S3/S4 has settled in the canister. Truss being secured at this time. Nice view of the radiator. Gives a good idea of massive this sucker is.
#11 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 16:17
Crane being moved away.
#12 by DaveS on 07 Feb, 2007 16:21
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 5:47 PM

In the meantime, the hoisting sling is being moved into position around Atlantis for the move to the vertical position, which I believe will be later today sometime.
Back on STS-121 it took close to 6 hours from arrival in the VAB before the bipod attachment device on the orbiter was disconnected from the OTS.

Time before the orbiter was lifted into the high bay from arriving in the VAB was 15.5 hours.
#13 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 16:45
S3/S4 now settled and secure in the canister.
#14 by jmjawors on 07 Feb, 2007 16:48
And it looks like they're closing it up now.
#15 by jmjawors on 07 Feb, 2007 17:58
"Ladies and Gentlemen, the canister has left the building!"

Well, it's left the room at least. Can't remember when it's to be shipped to the pad. That's not later today, is it?
#16 by Jim on 07 Feb, 2007 18:04
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jmjawors - 7/2/2007 1:58 PM

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the canister has left the building!"

Well, it's left the room at least. Can't remember when it's to be shipped to the pad. That's not later today, is it?

It has to rotated to vertical
#17 by lsullivan411 on 07 Feb, 2007 18:06
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jmjawors - 7/2/2007 1:58 PM "Ladies and Gentlemen, the canister has left the building!" Well, it's left the room at least. Can't remember when it's to be shipped to the pad. That's not later today, is it?
Last I saw it was due to be shipped to the pad on the 12th. There was some talk of the 18th, but I think it's back to the 12th now.
#18 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 19:07
Sling in position for the move to vertical. Do we have a target time for hoisting to begin? Platform being moved underneath to disconnect Atlantis from the OTS.
#19 by DaveS on 07 Feb, 2007 19:28
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 9:07 PM
Platform being moved underneath to disconnect Atlantis from the OTS.
That one is only used to disconnect the bipod fitting on the orbiter(it stays with orbiter and gets mated with the bipod struts on the ET). The orbiter is also secured to the OTS on the aft ET attachment fittings.
#20 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 19:36
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DaveS - 7/2/2007 2:28 PM

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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 9:07 PM
Platform being moved underneath to disconnect Atlantis from the OTS.
That one is only used to disconnect the bipod fitting on the orbiter(it stays with orbiter and gets mated with the bipod struts on the ET). The orbiter is also secured to the OTS on the aft ET attachment fittings.

I know. I actually have some old video of personnel performing detachment work on Endeavour prior to STS-59.
#21 by Rocket Guy on 07 Feb, 2007 19:54
As of this morning, they said it was to begin "after 3pm during second shift earliest."
#22 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 19:58
Thank you Ben. I'll be here most of the day working on drawings so I'll try to throw in photo updates as best I can.
#23 by marsguy on 07 Feb, 2007 20:05
Not sure, but if you compare these two frames (the two most recent from the webcam), Atlantis's nose appears to be moving upward.
#24 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 20:13
I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.
#25 by C5C6 on 07 Feb, 2007 20:25
can someone give me the link to see that video or photo feed of the VAB??? or its under password???
#26 by DaveS on 07 Feb, 2007 20:26
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 10:13 PM

I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.
Go here http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm and flip between the 15:47 and 15:52 images. Notice how her nose moves up in the 15:52 image.
#27 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 20:27
KSC webcams are available at:

http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
and
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/
#28 by DaveS on 07 Feb, 2007 20:27
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 10:13 PM
I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.

Go here http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm and flip between the 15:47 and 15:52 images. Notice how her nose moves up in the 15:52 image.

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C5C6 - 7/2/2007 10:25 PM
can someone give me the link to see that video or photo feed of the VAB??? or its under password???

Here you go: http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm
#29 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 20:29
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DaveS - 7/2/2007 3:26 PM

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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 10:13 PM

I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.
Go here http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm and flip between the 15:47 and 15:52 images. Notice how her nose moves up in the 15:52 image.

By golly you're right Apologies! Yep she moved alright. They've got her loose from the OTS then! The image hasn't refreshed in about 40 minutes so hopefully the next one will show her lifted off nicely.
#30 by DaveS on 07 Feb, 2007 20:34
OTS bipod struts disconnected and lowered:
#31 by Wisi on 07 Feb, 2007 20:54
And shes being lifted!
#32 by simonbp on 07 Feb, 2007 21:38
When is rollout to the pad?

Simon
#33 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 21:38
She's vertical!
#34 by Chris Bergin on 07 Feb, 2007 21:42
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simonbp - 7/2/2007 10:38 PM

When is rollout to the pad?

Simon

A week today.
#35 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 22:13
#36 by paulhbell07 on 07 Feb, 2007 22:15
Nice
#37 by MySDCUserID on 07 Feb, 2007 22:18
Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.
#38 by Chris Bergin on 07 Feb, 2007 22:20
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MySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 11:18 PM

Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.

She's English, it's a big secret Shame on you for saying "it"
#39 by jacqmans on 07 Feb, 2007 22:29
Feb. 7, 2007

RELEASE: 07-25

NASA'S SHUTTLE ATLANTIS ROLLS TO VEHICLE ASSEMBLY BUILDING

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA's space shuttle Atlantis completed a
milestone to move it one step closer to a targeted March launch.
Early Wednesday drivers moved Atlantis from the Orbiter Processing
Facility to the Vehicle Assembly Building at NASA's Kennedy Space
Center in Florida. Atlantis, perched on top of the giant, 76-wheel
Crawler-Transporter, began its move at 6:19 a.m. EST. It arrived in
the Vehicle Assembly Building at 7:24 a.m.

In the assembly building, technicians will attach Atlantis to its
propulsion elements, an external fuel tank and twin solid rocket
boosters. Following those operations, final integration, preparations
and closeouts will begin in preparation for flight.

The next milestone for Atlantis is the 3.4-mile trip to Launch Pad 39A
in preparation for its 11-day mission, designated STS-117, to
continue construction of the International Space Station. The crew's
six astronauts will install a new truss segment, retract a set of
solar arrays and unfold a new set on the starboard side of the
station. Lessons learned from two previous missions will provide the
astronauts with new techniques and tools to perform their duties.

News media are invited to attend the rollout of Atlantis to the launch
pad, scheduled for Wednesday, Feb. 14. First motion of the vehicle
out of the building is targeted for 7 a.m.

The Kennedy News Center will open for media activities Wednesday at 6
a.m. Reporters are asked to be ready for transportation to the
assembly building by 6:30 a.m. Since dates and times of this event
are subject to change, updates are available by calling 321-867-2525.

Permanently badged media interested in attending this event are asked
to contact the press site at 321-867-2468 by Tuesday, Feb 13. Media
without Kennedy credentials should submit requests via the
accreditation Web site at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

NASA TV will provide live coverage of the rollout of Atlantis to the
launch pad beginning at 7 a.m. EST Wednesday, Feb. 14. For NASA TV
downlink, streaming video and scheduling information, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For more information on the STS-117 mission and crew, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle

-end-
#40 by nathan.moeller on 07 Feb, 2007 23:08
#41 by paulhbell07 on 07 Feb, 2007 23:14
Are they going to leave her there all night or are they working through the night.
#42 by shuttlefan on 07 Feb, 2007 23:17
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paulhbell07 - 7/2/2007 6:14 PM

Are they going to leave her there all night or are they working through the night.

It's a 24/7 operation between now and rollout.
#43 by paulhbell07 on 07 Feb, 2007 23:21
Ok thanks shuttlefan.
#44 by psloss on 07 Feb, 2007 23:40
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shuttlefan - 7/2/2007 7:17 PM

It's a 24/7 operation between now and rollout.
I seem to recall reading a post here that some work is done during specific shifts...they've done lift to mate operations for at least one of these recent missions at this time of the day, IIRC...
#45 by Jim on 07 Feb, 2007 23:48
Major lifts are done second shift when there are less people around
#46 by psloss on 07 Feb, 2007 23:49
Thanks Jim.
#47 by MySDCUserID on 08 Feb, 2007 01:08
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Chris Bergin - 7/2/2007 5:20 PM

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MySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 11:18 PM

Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.

She's English, it's a big secret Shame on you for saying "it"

I'm sorry, but I just feel wierd calling inanimate objects "he" or "she". Call me crazy.
#48 by NASA_Twix_JSC on 08 Feb, 2007 01:13
Love the cartoon of Atlantis. Not all of us have had a sense of humor bypass here, so it's appreciated.

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MySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 8:08 PM

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Chris Bergin - 7/2/2007 5:20 PM

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MySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 11:18 PM

Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.

She's English, it's a big secret Shame on you for saying "it"

I'm sorry, but I just feel wierd calling inanimate objects "he" or "she". Call me crazy.

Not crazy, just inaccurate. They are shes, and if you're not sure why, then I would suggest you google it or search the thread which explains it on this site. You'll of noticed both Griffin and Leinbach refered to them as shes during the post flight press brief after 116.
#49 by shuttlefan on 08 Feb, 2007 01:50
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Jim - 7/2/2007 6:48 PM

Major lifts are done second shift when there are less people around

What times does second shift run between?
#50 by Shuttle Man on 08 Feb, 2007 02:13
They are lifting her now, if you are able to capture images.
#51 by marsguy on 08 Feb, 2007 02:30
#52 by Orbiter Obvious on 08 Feb, 2007 02:37
Thanks Marsguy!!!
#53 by Michael22090 on 08 Feb, 2007 02:49
How late will it be when she is actually mated to the ET and SRB's?
#54 by Chandonn on 08 Feb, 2007 02:51
Awesome! She's going up high!
#55 by Sphereion on 08 Feb, 2007 02:52
An amazing sight to see how high they lift her!
#56 by Paul Howard on 08 Feb, 2007 03:08
Over and gone.
#57 by Chandonn on 08 Feb, 2007 03:09
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Sphereion - 7/2/2007 10:52 PM

An amazing sight to see how high they lift her!

I was surprised the first time I found out they don't move her horizontally and mate her. Rather, they lift her up higher than the whole stack and lower her to the tank.
#58 by Chandonn on 08 Feb, 2007 03:19
And gone!
#59 by marsguy on 08 Feb, 2007 03:28
I hope they switch to a different camera so that she may be seen being lowered onto the stack.
#60 by nathan.moeller on 08 Feb, 2007 03:47
Well...we've got a little shot of the MLP and CT in the upper right-hand corner. I'm thinking we'll have to wait for pictures later tonight or tomorrow morning.
#61 by marsguy on 08 Feb, 2007 03:50
Interesting...I didn't know that the CT was already in the VAB at this point.
#62 by nathan.moeller on 08 Feb, 2007 04:00
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marsguy - 7/2/2007 10:50 PM

Interesting...I didn't know that the CT was already in the VAB at this point.

That's how they got the MLP inside But yeah, it usually stays there the whole time they're getting ready to haul an orbiter out to the pad. I'm not sure the VAB has pedestals for the MLP to rest on but I could easily be mistaken. Someone correct me if I am indeed wrong about that. I imagine she's about to be lowered to the rest of the stack.
#63 by spaceshuttle on 08 Feb, 2007 04:11
Where are y'all getting those video stills from?
#64 by nathan.moeller on 08 Feb, 2007 04:16
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/camera2/Camera2Java.htm
#65 by DaveS on 08 Feb, 2007 05:55
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nathan.moeller - 8/2/2007 6:00 AM

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marsguy - 7/2/2007 10:50 PM

Interesting...I didn't know that the CT was already in the VAB at this point.

That's how they got the MLP inside
Only the MLP is in the VAB right now. The crawler rolls into the high bay on rollout day.
#66 by punkboi on 08 Feb, 2007 06:34
Atlantis part of the stack
#67 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2007 11:15
Good work with the images overnight guys.
#68 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2007 12:09
Looks like a shot of part of Atlantis' FRCS:
#69 by DaveS on 08 Feb, 2007 12:32
Here's a view between ET-124(left) and Atlantis(right):
#70 by nathan.moeller on 08 Feb, 2007 12:46
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DaveS - 8/2/2007 12:55 AM

Only the MLP is in the VAB right now. The crawler rolls into the high bay on rollout day.

Whoops Must have mistaken some shapes in the image for the crawler, and I was indeed wrong about the VAB not having pad pedestals. Thanks for the images guys. Great to see her being stacked up again.
#71 by KSC on 08 Feb, 2007 13:06
A nice image from yesterdays roll over in the dawn
#72 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2007 14:24
And the OPF she came out of was evacuated after a suspected ammonia leak.
#73 by Wisi on 08 Feb, 2007 14:24
Great image, thanks for sharing!

Which building is the OPF? The one at the very left of the image?
#74 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2007 14:58
Oh wow, Pad Rat!

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/photos/photo-main.asp?viewmember=2585

Awesome.
#75 by STS Tony on 08 Feb, 2007 15:00
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pad rat - 8/2/2007 9:27 AM

It takes roughly 24 hrs. from the time the orbiter rolls into the VAB until the time "hard mate" is complete. Just getting the orbiter into position beside the ET and soft-mating the aft attachment posts takes about 12-14 hrs. Installing the bolts is a tedious process that really eats up time.

I've created a photo album of photos I took during some lift/mate operations several years ago. Look at the S0004 album.

Now THAT's what I'm talking about. No need for coffee this morning, cool photos will do it for me!
#76 by nathan.moeller on 08 Feb, 2007 15:27
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Wisi - 8/2/2007 9:24 AM

Great image, thanks for sharing!

Which building is the OPF? The one at the very left of the image?

Yes that's OPF Bay 1. Endeavour is in Bay 2 right next to it. Bay 3 houses Discovery just across the road and down a bit.
#77 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2007 15:37
Operations are four hours behind schedule on the mating.

Doing an article to round up where we are.
#78 by nathan.moeller on 08 Feb, 2007 15:49
Not terribly uncommon for this to get behind. Perhaps they'll make up for it by rolling out on the first try. It took them three tries last time they took Atlantis to the pad due to weather and everything went fine. To think...had they not launched 115 in September, we'd probably be looking at the first real launch attempt 11 days from now, as the first daylight window of the year opens February 19. And we got TWO launches off! Looking forward to the article Chris.
#79 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2007 16:27
USA guys during soft mate:
#80 by psloss on 08 Feb, 2007 16:52
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pad rat - 8/2/2007 10:27 AM

It takes roughly 24 hrs. from the time the orbiter rolls into the VAB until the time "hard mate" is complete. Just getting the orbiter into position beside the ET and soft-mating the aft attachment posts takes about 12-14 hrs. Installing the bolts is a tedious process that really eats up time.

I've created a photo album of photos I took during some lift/mate operations several years ago. Look at the S0004 album.
Thanks for posting these here, Mr. Rat

There was a recent question about the SRB hold downs that I think you have some good shots of...
#81 by Launch Fan on 08 Feb, 2007 17:09
Nice looking USA engineer! Great photos Mr Pad Rat!!
#82 by punkboi on 08 Feb, 2007 18:28
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Launch Fan - 8/2/2007 10:09 AM Nice looking USA engineer! Great photos Mr Pad Rat!!
Off-topic, but here's a Blog by another nice-looking NASA employee (possibly the same lady in the pic above?). I envy her (because she has close access to shuttles)
http://damarisbsarria.blogspot.com/
#83 by shuttlefan on 08 Feb, 2007 23:46
Can anyone confirm whether hard-mate is complete and the lifting sling has been removed?
#84 by Mark Max Q on 09 Feb, 2007 02:34
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Chris Bergin - 8/2/2007 9:58 AM

Oh wow, Pad Rat!

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/photos/photo-main.asp?viewmember=2585

Awesome.

Pad Rat rules. As close as anyone of us nobodies will ever get to a Shuttle!
#85 by Joey on 09 Feb, 2007 05:28
I'm hoping this isn't a really dumb question - but - monoball installation I take is the actual point where the shuttle mates with the ET, right? How exactly is this done? (I'm picturing a guy squeezing in between the shuttle and ET with a wrench . . . )
#86 by nathan.moeller on 09 Feb, 2007 05:57
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Joey - 9/2/2007 12:28 AM

I'm hoping this isn't a really dumb question - but - monoball installation I take is the actual point where the shuttle mates with the ET, right? How exactly is this done? (I'm picturing a guy squeezing in between the shuttle and ET with a wrench . . . )

Very carefully I think they just make very subtle movements with the crane to inch the orbiter closer and closer to the tank until it presses hard enough against the attach points to form a hard mate, then handy-work takes over from there.
#87 by eeergo on 09 Feb, 2007 08:35
There are some high resolution images about the mating operations at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=71... although not nearly as detailed as pad rat's, they're only the usual PAO stuff Anyhow:
#88 by Jonesy STS on 09 Feb, 2007 09:20
There must be a lot of different stress points on the orbiter with that lift. Are the attach points loaded through major beams of the substructure?
#89 by Jim on 09 Feb, 2007 11:51
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Jonesy STS - 9/2/2007 5:20 AM

There must be a lot of different stress points on the orbiter with that lift. Are the attach points loaded through major beams of the substructure?

No beams, the fuselage is the major structural component of the orbiter. The attach points of the sling are near the interface of the fuselage to forward and aft structures, which provide strength to the fuselage
#90 by paulhbell07 on 09 Feb, 2007 12:27
That must be a cool job driving the cranes. But how do they deal with the swaying. I have driven over head cranes, as I have maintained(fixed) them in the past. And when you get a big weight on them, even when moving slow, the 'weight' sways at lot. Even when inching. I am not surprised it takes a long time to mate the shuttle to the tank.
#91 by SimonShuttle on 09 Feb, 2007 13:38
I bet they were neavous the first time they lifted the orbiter in the VAB. You really don't want to go dropping that!
#92 by Chris Bergin on 09 Feb, 2007 13:40
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SimonShuttle - 9/2/2007 2:38 PM

I bet they were neavous the first time they lifted the orbiter in the VAB. You really don't want to go dropping that!

They did tests with Pathfinder (I think) at MSFC. There's an image somewhere of a tall building and a crane on the side lifting Pathfinder.
#93 by Mark Dave on 09 Feb, 2007 18:12
I have some cool photos of Pathfinder I will be adding to my gallery. Thanks for mentioning Pathfinder.
#94 by missinglink on 09 Feb, 2007 18:34
Now that Florida is getting tornados on top of its already crazy weather, I am getting a bit worried that one of them might hit a shuttle on its way to the launch pad. Though the odds are probably very low.
#95 by Rocket Ronnie on 09 Feb, 2007 18:44
Wow. That's a close one and no protection from the RSS.
#96 by jacqmans on 09 Feb, 2007 19:55
Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Vehicle Assembly Building High Bay 1
Launch Date: Targeted for March 15, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles

On Wednesday, Atlantis rolled from the Orbiter Processing Facility to
the Vehicle Assembly Building, where it was lifted into high bay 1
and mated to the external fuel tank. Orbiter power application is
scheduled for Sunday. Close-out operations continue on the fuel tank
and solid rocket boosters, with thermal protection system foam
trimming under way.

The STS-117 payload is scheduled to be transferred to Launch Pad 39A
on Monday. The shuttle is set to roll out to the pad on Feb. 14.
#97 by nathan.moeller on 09 Feb, 2007 20:36
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pad rat - 9/2/2007 1:39 PM

7/20/99. Don't remember how close it came, but I'm pretty sure it never breached the pad perimeter. I think the photo came from Florida Today. I was in the cockpit at the pad one day when the tornado warning sounded. we were told to sit tight, as it was likely the safest place to be.

One word: YIKES!! Thanks for sharing that Pad Rat. Scary, yet great, photo.

EDIT: Have they established a target time for rollout next Wednesday? If so, how will the four-hour setback factor in?
#98 by DaveS on 09 Feb, 2007 20:42
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nathan.moeller - 9/2/2007 10:36 PM
EDIT: Have they established a target time for rollout next Wednesday? If so, how will the four-hour setback factor in?
7 am EST.
#99 by MySDCUserID on 09 Feb, 2007 21:16
Grrr...!!! I'll be stuck in meetings all day!! Here's to hoping it gets delayed until lunchtime so I can drive to the VAB just as it's rolling out.
#100 by psloss on 09 Feb, 2007 21:17
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Rocket Ronnie - 9/2/2007 2:44 PM

Wow. That's a close one and no protection from the RSS.
Yeah, that was after the cutoff the night before due to the spike in the hazardous gas collector readings in the MPS a few seconds before engine start...interestingly, I would have been in the general area that day and at the visitor's center earlier, but I don't remember seeing anything that bad. The weather was also probably different enough in Titusville or Cocoa at the time. A water spout or funnel cloud would have been memorable in a soil-the-trousers way for a tornado newbie like me.
#101 by shuttlefan on 10 Feb, 2007 15:10
Is there a chance Chris could provide a little snippet from the internal status report, covering events such as when the vehicle is to be powered up for the interface test in the vab, etc.?
#102 by Chris Bergin on 10 Feb, 2007 17:37
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shuttlefan - 10/2/2007 4:10 PM

Is there a chance Chris could provide a little snippet from the internal status report, covering events such as when the vehicle is to be powered up for the interface test in the vab, etc.?

That wouldn't be something such things on L2 cover by way of those reports. Daily Ops reports outline what happened over the previous shift and the shift to come, for instance, from one of those last week:

"OV-104 (STS-117)/VAB HB-1
First Motion for Atlantis from OPF Bay 1 occurred at 0619 hrs. Following a successful journey, Atlantis was spotted in the VAB at 0727 hrs.
S0004 Status:
Operations are currently tracking about 4 hours down from the original timeline mostly due to a timeout called for a fall abatement issue with the 1268 stand. The issue was resolved and operations have continued well since.
Sling Mate to the Orbiter was completed at 1455 hrs.
Orbiter Lift to Vertical and Aft spreader beam removal were completed at 1849 hrs.
BCI Photos of the Left and Right hand wing RCC panels were completed at 2025 hrs.
Orbiter lift up and over into position for mate was completed at 0118 hrs.
AFT Soft Mate is currently in-work and is expected to be completed by 0700 hrs.
CCF reported a GN2 leak at the High Pressure GN2 Pipeline valve yard. The leak was located at a 4 inch line near a relief valve. ALAC GN2 high pressure supply to the VAB, PAD A and PAD B was been shut off due to this leak. A Nitrogen recharger was used to pump up the facility GN2 pressures at all three facilities. Leak repair will be worked today.
SRB AFT BSM TPS Trimming will be continuing today; there are 2 issues that the SRB element is working to resolve:
On the right stack, dimension in one area on the top of one nozzle (measured from the outer edge of the nozzle inward) is 0.800 (approx.) should be 0.815 in.
Difficulty getting measurements of BTA thickness over the retaining ring. The surface of the nozzle is not as flat as other areas, which is causing the micrometer to rock. TPS Ops and Quality Assurance personnel were evaluating issues and how to address them yesterday.
The STS-117 S0044 Launch Countdown Simulation was successfully accomplished yesterday."
#103 by shuttlefan on 10 Feb, 2007 23:51
Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?
#104 by Chris Bergin on 11 Feb, 2007 13:29
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shuttlefan - 11/2/2007 12:51 AM

Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?

I'll copy it across when the newest info comes in tomorrow morning.
#105 by Chris Bergin on 11 Feb, 2007 13:32
No new webcam images (what's the bloody point in having this if they freeze them!) So here's some random Sunday morning images from 39B (wrong pad I know), etc.
#106 by nathan.moeller on 11 Feb, 2007 14:19
As we say here...no news is usually good news and we have to keep the threads alive somehow. We'll look forward to seeing Pad B back in action (to some extent) sometime later next year. Here's to 1400...
#107 by mkirk on 11 Feb, 2007 15:42
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shuttlefan - 10/2/2007 6:51 PM

Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?

Powerup should be this afternoon around 3pm Eastern for the Interface Test (S0008).

Mark Kirkman
#108 by shuttlefan on 11 Feb, 2007 17:30
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mkirk - 11/2/2007 10:42 AM

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shuttlefan - 10/2/2007 6:51 PM

Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?

Powerup should be this afternoon around 3pm Eastern for the Interface Test (S0008).

Mark Kirkman
Thanks, Mark!!

Approx. how many people would be staffing the Firing Room consoles for the powerup today?
#109 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 11 Feb, 2007 20:48
What time will the S3/S4 payload be moved to Pad 39A Monday?
#110 by DaveS on 11 Feb, 2007 21:17
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shuttlefan - 11/2/2007 7:30 PM
Approx. how many people would be staffing the Firing Room consoles for the powerup today?
CTS is usually 30 minutes prior to the op. So CTS for S0008 would be at 2:30 pm EST.

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Gerald Andrew Richli - 11/2/2007 10:48 PM
What time will the S3/S4 payload be moved to Pad 39A Monday?
They usually tries to get the PL transported before 6 am EST.
#111 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 12 Feb, 2007 10:01
Are they still transporting the STS-117 payload to Pad 39A or is it being Delayed?
#112 by Chris Bergin on 12 Feb, 2007 10:04
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 12/2/2007 11:01 AM

It is raining in KSC according to Murphy's Law. Are they still transporting the STS-117 payload to Pad 39A or is it being Delayed?

I'm trying to find out..... will update when I know more
#113 by DaveS on 12 Feb, 2007 10:53
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Chris Bergin - 12/2/2007 12:04 PM

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Gerald Andrew Richli - 12/2/2007 11:01 AM

Are they still transporting the STS-117 payload to Pad 39A or is it being Delayed?

I'm trying to find out..... will update when I know more
I thought I noticed the Payload Transportation Canister earlier at 1:41 am EST on Camera 1 here: http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/camera1/Camera1Java.htm
#114 by DaveS on 12 Feb, 2007 11:53
Crawler on the move from the refurbishment and maintenance area:
#115 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 12 Feb, 2007 12:17
Crawler on its way to VAB for Wednesday's rollout of STS-117?
#116 by Chris Bergin on 12 Feb, 2007 12:17
Going on a morning drive:
#117 by Chris Bergin on 12 Feb, 2007 12:23
Heading round the corner. Should be infront of HB1 in 10-20 mins.
#118 by UK Shuttle Clan on 12 Feb, 2007 12:24
If no one was watching, he could pull of a good handbrake turn around that corner in the wet
#119 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 12:30
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UK Shuttle Clan - 12/2/2007 7:24 AM

If no one was watching, he could pull of a good handbrake turn around that corner in the wet

Haha true. A little wetness and a lot of mass can do wonders
#120 by shuttlefan on 12 Feb, 2007 12:37
I think the crawler can do a little more than 1mph without the shuttle and MLP aboard.
#121 by DaveS on 12 Feb, 2007 12:38
Seems like it's going to pick-up MLP-3:
#122 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 12:56
hmmm.... pulled off the road for a bit now... maybe they got a flat tire
#123 by Wisi on 12 Feb, 2007 13:23
now unter the MLP
#124 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 12 Feb, 2007 13:29
Is there any confirmation that S3/S4 payload has arrived at Pad 39A or has it been delayed by torrential rains?
#125 by Wisi on 12 Feb, 2007 13:50
huh? why is it rolling away again?
#126 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 12 Feb, 2007 13:52
S3/S4 delivery to Pad 39A is probably delayed due to Rain.
#127 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 13:57
Maybe the rain picked up and they rolled it under MLP-3 for cover?
#128 by DaveS on 12 Feb, 2007 13:58
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 12/2/2007 3:52 PM

S3/S4 delivery to Pad 39A is probably delayed due to Rain.
Nothing unusual. The STS-116/12A.1 payload to pad transfer was delayed 2 days due unfavourable weather conditions.
#129 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 14:25
Any idea what's up with the crawler? Testing a fit with the MLP on MLP3 before moving into the HB possibly?
#130 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 14:26
Looks like we're rolling again...
#131 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 12 Feb, 2007 14:29
S3/S4 will probably move to Pad 39A either tomorrow (Tuesday) or Thursday. Wednesday is STS-117 Rollout Day.
#132 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 14:29
And he's gone...
#133 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 14:31
"S3/S4 will probably move to Pad 39A either tomorrow (Tuesday) or Thursday. Wednesday is STS-117 Rollout Day."

... unless it made it to the pad early. Looking at the Radar (from camera 4) it looks like the rain didn't really move in until 6:30 or so and don't payloads usually go to the pad before 6?
#134 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 14:34
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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 9:31 AM

"S3/S4 will probably move to Pad 39A either tomorrow (Tuesday) or Thursday. Wednesday is STS-117 Rollout Day."

... unless it made it to the pad early. Looking at the Radar (from camera 4) it looks like the rain didn't really move in until 6:30 or so and don't payloads usually go to the pad before 6?

Most payload transits I've seen are in the middle of the night. The image on the previous page of this thread shows the canister passing the VAB around 1:41 AM EST this morning. I think it's at the pad. It was scheduled to make the trip today anyway.
#135 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 14:36
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nathan.moeller - 12/2/2007 10:34 AM

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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 9:31 AM

"S3/S4 will probably move to Pad 39A either tomorrow (Tuesday) or Thursday. Wednesday is STS-117 Rollout Day."

... unless it made it to the pad early. Looking at the Radar (from camera 4) it looks like the rain didn't really move in until 6:30 or so and don't payloads usually go to the pad before 6?

Most payload transits I've seen are in the middle of the night. The image on the previous page of this thread shows the canister passing the VAB around 1:41 AM EST this morning. I think it's at the pad. It was scheduled to make the trip today anyway.

So THAT'S what that was in the picture. I was trying to make it out. Thanks!
#136 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 14:40
I've outlined some figures and labeled the image to give you an idea of what's what.
#137 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 14:41
Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.
#138 by berni on 12 Feb, 2007 14:44
why do they transfer the canister in the middle of the night to the pad? thermal reasons? due to the low traffic at that time?
#139 by Jim on 12 Feb, 2007 14:49
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berni - 12/2/2007 10:44 AM

why do they transfer the canister in the middle of the night to the pad? thermal reasons? due to the low traffic at that time?

Low traffic, low winds, in the summer, it's cooler. But most of all, it allows all of 1st shift to preform the canister lift. Mush smaller crew needed for the canister transport vs canister lift, hence the larger crew is on 1st shift and not overtime
#140 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 14:50
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Jim - 12/2/2007 9:49 AM

Low traffic, low winds, in the summer, it's cooler. But most of all, it allows all of 1st shift to preform the canister lift. Mush smaller crew needed for the canister transport vs canister lift, hence the larger crew is on 1st shift and not overtime

Oh, a wages-saver
#141 by Chris Bergin on 12 Feb, 2007 14:55
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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 3:41 PM

Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.

I don't think they believe anyone is watching the webcams to be honest.
#142 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 15:07
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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 3:41 PM

Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.

I don't think they believe anyone is watching the webcams to be honest.

He's absolutely right. If millions were tuned into these things they might upgrade them. But these work just fine for us
#143 by Chris Bergin on 12 Feb, 2007 15:14
Here we go on the payload, from L2:

"S0600, Payload delivery and installation status:
Payload delivery to the Pad occurred this morning at 0254 hrs.
The canister lift began at 0540 hrs this morning. "
#144 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 15:15
Woohoo! Glad it beat the SSV to the pad. Thanks for that report.
#145 by Chandonn on 12 Feb, 2007 15:35
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Chris Bergin - 12/2/2007 10:55 AM

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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 3:41 PM

Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.

I don't think they believe anyone is watching the webcams to be honest.

SO who do we have to write to to tell them that they have a captive audience?
#146 by nathan.moeller on 12 Feb, 2007 16:00
The only problem (if you can call it that) with the webcams is that they don't refresh often enough. Some have live streaming video and it's great but they could use more. I'm sure they have their reasons for not (bandwith surely) but it would be cool. Anyway...back on topic. Any updates on the crawler ops status?
#147 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 12 Feb, 2007 16:18
Great! I am glad that S3/S4 is at Pad 39A as indicated by Chris Bergin at 10:14 am above.
#148 by DaveS on 12 Feb, 2007 17:49
Payload Transportation Canister being lifted for mating with the Payload Changeout Room on the Rotating Service Structure at Launch Complex 39A:
#149 by DaveS on 12 Feb, 2007 20:12
Just a note re: NASA TV coverage of the rollout. It seems like it will only be broadcast on the NASA TV Media Channel according to the latest entry on the live events schedule:

February 14, Wednesday
7 a.m. - Space Shuttle Atlantis Rollout to Launch Pad - KSC (Media Channel)
#150 by Mark Dave on 12 Feb, 2007 21:54
I'll tape it then. I have the rollouts of STS-114 and 121. This is another to add to my shuttle collection.
#151 by C5C6 on 12 Feb, 2007 22:28
photos of payload going to pad available in ksc media gallery: http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=71
#152 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 02:06
There's a problem with a valve on Atlantis. No real details yet, but apparently it's got a lot of people's attentions.
#153 by Rocket Guy on 13 Feb, 2007 02:19
Rollout postponed till 7am Thursday.
#154 by landofgrey on 13 Feb, 2007 02:38
I'm going to have to make a phone call in the morning but someone at KSC Media Relations told me badges for rollout will be ready for pickup on the 20th. I'm HOPING she just got her dates mixed up! But I'll find out in the morning. Although... Atlantis rollout in the morning, THEMIS launch in the evening... that would make for a pretty fun day of hard work.
#155 by FransonUK on 13 Feb, 2007 10:44
Going to be a busy Thursday at this rate. There's also a JAXA launch!
#156 by DaveS on 13 Feb, 2007 10:56
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FransonUK - 13/2/2007 12:44 PM

Going to be a busy Thursday at this rate. There's also a JAXA launch!
Not only that, the preflight media briefings at JSC that runs all day. So I'm not sure how the live coverage on NASA TV of the rollout will be handled.

Could any of you guys down at KSC ask how they plan to handle this situation?
#157 by Mark Dave on 13 Feb, 2007 11:12
I hope the rollout coverage is for most of the day.
#158 by Terry Rocket on 13 Feb, 2007 11:25
Can anyone list the times of Thursday's events, from rollout to the launches and press events, so I can plan my day?
#159 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 13 Feb, 2007 11:27
In a worse case scenario, to replace valve, this could delay STS-117 until about April 20, 2007 at the earliest if atlantis has to be demated and taken back to OPF for valve replacement. I hope that it is not the case.
#160 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 11:37
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 13/2/2007 12:27 PM

In a worse case scenario, to replace valve, this could delay STS-117 until about April 20, 2007 at the earliest if atlantis has to be demated and taken back to OPF for valve replacement. I hope that it is not the case.

We don't know what the issue is yet (hope to in an hour or so). They can do a lot in the vertical, and the question could be whether they can do it on the pad or in the VAB, rather than the OPF.
#161 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 11:48
At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
#162 by DaveS on 13 Feb, 2007 12:31
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Chris Bergin - 13/2/2007 1:48 PM

At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
With this you mean the IVT?
#163 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 12:32
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DaveS - 13/2/2007 1:31 PM

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Chris Bergin - 13/2/2007 1:48 PM

At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
With this you mean the IVT?

That is literally all I was sent from the recorded quick look line for media. No reference to rollout was mentioned.
#164 by lsullivan411 on 13 Feb, 2007 12:34
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Terry Rocket - 13/2/2007 7:25 AM Can anyone list the times of Thursday's events, from rollout to the launches and press events, so I can plan my day?
This is taken from NTV schedule:
February 15, Thursday
7 a.m. - Space Shuttle Atlantis Rollout to Launch Pad - KSC (Media Channel)
8:15 a.m. - STS-117 B-Roll and Animation Feed - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
9 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Program Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
10:30 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Mission Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
12:30 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Spacewalk Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
2 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Crew News Conference - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
4 p.m. - THEMIS Launch Coverage Begins (Launch Window 6:08 - 6:27 p.m.) - KSC (Public and Media Channels)
As to the JAXA launch someone else would have to add that, I'm not sure.
Hope this helps! (All times ET by the way).
#165 by DaveS on 13 Feb, 2007 12:38
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DaveS - 13/2/2007 1:31 PM

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Chris Bergin - 13/2/2007 1:48 PM

At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
With this you mean the IVT?

That is literally all I was sent from the recorded quick look line for media. No reference to rollout was mentioned.
OK: Just to clear up any confusion regarding terms: with IVT I meant the Vehicle Interface Test also called S0008.
#166 by DaveS on 13 Feb, 2007 13:07
Also how long can the rollout be delayed before it will start impacting the ability the launch date?
#167 by nathan.moeller on 13 Feb, 2007 13:17
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DaveS - 13/2/2007 8:07 AM

Also how long can the rollout be delayed before it will start impacting the ability the launch date?

Last I heard all processing flows were red so if that's true every day they delay pushes the date back. I could be wrong but that's what I heard last. Hale said something to the effect of "if we push the launch date back a few days, so be it."
#168 by shuttlefan on 13 Feb, 2007 13:21
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DaveS - 13/2/2007 8:07 AM

Also how long can the rollout be delayed before it will start impacting the ability the launch date?

Last I heard all processing flows were red so if that's true every day they delay pushes the date back. I could be wrong but that's what I heard last. Hale said something to the effect of "if we push the launch date back a few days, so be it."

Better safe than sorry. We have approx. 15 more flights of this vehicle left in the next 4 years. That's a tall order. If, in the worst-case scenario, STS-117 would experience a long ( possibly 1 month or more ) launch delay, that's OK. We must continue to look at the Shuttle as an extremely-experimental vehicle. We must stay vigilant!!
#169 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 13:48
Ops report on L2 (very very long).

Right Hand booster is the problem. Going to try and write it up.

Rollout delayed 24 hours and being reviewed.

Going after ATK's morning report for more info.
#170 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 13:57
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nathan.moeller - 13/2/2007 2:17 PM

Last I heard all processing flows were red

Not correct.

Slide from L2 on the PRCB last Thursday:
#171 by nathan.moeller on 13 Feb, 2007 14:08
D'oh! Sorry Yellow it is then. So yeah, there's wiggle room and a one-day delay won't hurt.
#172 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 15:29
Written it up:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5021
#173 by nathan.moeller on 13 Feb, 2007 16:44
Thanks Chris. Sorry for getting all that mixed up. The part that interests me most is the part about the GSE cable being improperly mated. Was that caused by an overall improper mating of the booster to the ET or is that within an isolated area on the booster itself? Either way, what can be done to fix that?
#174 by Mark Dave on 13 Feb, 2007 18:45
So everything is set for Thursday morning's roll to the pad?
#175 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 18:48
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MarkD - 13/2/2007 7:45 PM

So everything is set for Thursday morning's roll to the pad?

At present. Review is ongoing.
#176 by Mark Dave on 13 Feb, 2007 19:09
I hope it is a go for Thursday as I want to see it live.
#177 by alan w on 13 Feb, 2007 19:17
Iv'e got everything crossed that it goes on the 15th March as im flying over from the U.K. to watch the launch. Flights , hotels, car hire etc is all booked around that date! A few days delay is palatable but anything more than that and im scuppered.
How common is a looong delay as opposed to a delay of days?
#178 by DaveS on 13 Feb, 2007 19:17
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MarkD - 13/2/2007 9:09 PM

I hope it is a go for Thursday as I want to see it live.
Then only expect to see the first hour or so of it as there's a conflict with preflight media breifings from JSC which starts at 8:15 am EST and lasts all day.
#179 by Mark Dave on 13 Feb, 2007 19:26
Better than nothing shown. Besides I recall on STS-114's they cut in with the crew training then back to the rollout. Also bits of it will be seen on the Video File.
#180 by Flightstar on 13 Feb, 2007 20:24
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alan w - 13/2/2007 2:17 PM

Iv'e got everything crossed that it goes on the 15th March as im flying over from the U.K. to watch the launch. Flights , hotels, car hire etc is all booked around that date! A few days delay is palatable but anything more than that and im scuppered.
How common is a looong delay as opposed to a delay of days?

Don't worry, this won't be a major delay. NET 15th is still green.
#181 by Shuttle Man on 13 Feb, 2007 20:35
Rollout looks fine for Thursday, according to some guys who were coming out of the VAB.
#182 by alan w on 13 Feb, 2007 21:35
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alan w - 13/2/2007 2:17 PM

Iv'e got everything crossed that it goes on the 15th March as im flying over from the U.K. to watch the launch. Flights , hotels, car hire etc is all booked around that date! A few days delay is palatable but anything more than that and im scuppered.
How common is a looong delay as opposed to a delay of days?

Don't worry, this won't be a major delay. NET 15th is still green.

Thanks that takes a load of my mind, still gonna keep eveything crossed though!!
#183 by Chris Bergin on 13 Feb, 2007 21:42
Fear not Alan. Anything happens, you'll get to know here first.
#184 by Michael22090 on 13 Feb, 2007 22:07
This is a relief. I was hoping there would be no major delays, and there are none. A one day delay is not that bad, and I hope there are no more problems. I will not get to see this launch up close but hopefully I can convince my dad to take me to KSC this summer for STS-118. I am determined to see a shuttle launch before the program ends, so I will drive down there myself if I have to.
#185 by Chris Bergin on 14 Feb, 2007 09:15
Same as yesterday. Waiting for the confirmation of rollout for tomorrow. Will update here as soon as we know.
#186 by Jonesy STS on 14 Feb, 2007 10:29
Funny thing is, they could have had a couple of days delay getting out of the OPF, but didn't, so a day longer in the VAB is nothing to worry about
#187 by Gerald Andrew Richli on 14 Feb, 2007 12:39
Replacing a SRB Sensor in the VAB? If so, how long would it take?
#188 by Chris Bergin on 14 Feb, 2007 12:48
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 14/2/2007 7:39 AM

Replacing a SRB Sensor in the VAB? If so, how long would it take?

The OPT (Operational Pressure Transducer) doesn't have a timeline for R&R yet, but they have to be sure it's that.
#189 by Justin Space on 14 Feb, 2007 13:11
USA workers love pick up trucks
#190 by Chris Bergin on 14 Feb, 2007 16:00
Still looking like a 7am rollout tomorrow, but it's not official yet (which we kinda need).