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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #780 on: 06/18/2010 11:37 am »
Ok, I did some checking, below is what should be the correct names (the 4MT above is wrong, the real 4M has been refurbished and is now outside the baikonur museum there days)

In the first picture (posted by anik many pages back) the one on the bottom is 2k and the one on top is 7M (in line with the post by anik on page 5)

looking at the first picture you can see that the one in the second image is the same as the top one on the first picture.
looks like it to me too.

That is even more special, and tragic seeing it there.  If they would be even willing to consider a refurbishment-to-flight, I'd donate right now.
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #781 on: 06/18/2010 12:48 pm »
looking at the first picture you can see that the one in the second image is the same as the top one on the first picture.

You're absolutely right. Anik (and NK) wrote an erroneous caption on page 3, but I didn't see he corrected himself on page 5 !  :D

I correct my post.
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #782 on: 08/14/2010 08:00 pm »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #783 on: 08/16/2010 10:17 pm »
Wow, nice footage. The RD-0120 flame output is mighty impressive.

Some dark humor at the end of the video. Sad scenes.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #784 on: 08/17/2010 02:23 pm »
The RD-0120 flame output is mighty impressive.

That's the RD-170 flames. RD-0120 plume is mostly invisible, as with SSME.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #785 on: 08/24/2010 07:43 pm »
nice movie about buran
http://www.buran.ru/video/avi/grachev_DivX.avi


song from the movie
http://russmus.net/song.jsp?song=S:496992736#eng

Lonely Bird

Translation by miconazole

Lonely bird, you soar high
In the moonless night's coal-black skies
Thrust into a tempest
Of vagabonds and dogs
Your beautiful wings spread

You have no fledglings
You have no nest
The stars beckon you to the invisible world
And in your eyes lies unearthly sorrow.
You are a strong bird, but I feel for you.

Lonely bird, you fly high
And it took a madman to fall in love with you -
To climb, following you
To climb, following you
And together, to fall
Together with you
Together

Black angel of sorrow, let us rest
We'll sit in these branches
Together in silence.
What is there in the sky that is worth
Our fall to the rocks below?

Lonely bird, you fly high
And it took a madman to fall in love with you -
To climb, following you
To climb, following you
And together, to fall
Together with you
Together

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #786 on: 09/29/2010 02:11 pm »
Came across this link:

http://www.mk.ru/photo/social/1090-buran-prinesennyiy-v-zhertvu.html

I don't read Russian -- can somebody who does tell us if this is what it appears to be?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #787 on: 09/29/2010 02:16 pm »
Its a low fidelity model of Buran, and not in the garbage, but also not transported very well.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #788 on: 09/29/2010 02:50 pm »
Yes, looks like OK 2-01.

My knowledge is from here:

http://www.buran-energia.com/bourane-buran/bourane-modele-201-exterieur.php

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #789 on: 09/29/2010 04:24 pm »
Buran itself was destroyed several years ago when its hangar collapsed.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #790 on: 09/29/2010 10:07 pm »
OK 2-01 should be in a museum as should be done with Ptichka. 

Speaking of Buran look at this vid

« Last Edit: 09/29/2010 11:24 pm by MarkD »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #791 on: 09/29/2010 11:30 pm »
The was no Ptichka.

Please, read the Buran thread at http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=636.0
« Last Edit: 09/29/2010 11:31 pm by Satori »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #792 on: 10/02/2010 10:11 pm »
Came across this link:

http://www.mk.ru/photo/social/1090-buran-prinesennyiy-v-zhertvu.html

I don't read Russian -- can somebody who does tell us if this is what it appears to be?


Actually, this is what was supposed to become the third flight vehicle (3K). It's been sitting on the banks of the Moscow River since October 2004, not far from the manufacturing plant in Tushino. The second flight vehicle (2K, sometimes mistakenly identified as "Ptichka" ("Birdie"), which actually was a general nickname for Soviet orbiters) is in storage at the Assembly and Fueling Facility (MZK) at Baikonur.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #793 on: 10/15/2010 12:31 am »
I noticed these versions of Buran in the 3D models at http://www.buran.ru/htm/3d-model.htm

What were the  changes between these  versions and the present Buran that did fly?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #794 on: 10/15/2010 02:01 am »
The OS-120 is described here: http://www.buran.ru/htm/os-120.htm  (use http://translate.google.com to translate the page for you, just enter the URL)
 - It looks like a much closer copy of our Shuttle, with three main engines in the body of the orbiter. But the major difference looks like two solid LAS engines mounted at the engine roots.

The OK-94 is described here: http://www.buran.ru/htm/ok-92.htm
 - It had two jet engines for go-around capability in landing (this was also planned for the final Buran, but dropped - it could have been a future enhancement) It also appears to have had just one large LAS engine, mounted in the center of the tail.

I'm not sure how far these proposals were considered, or how serious they were.

And google translate rocks!  ;D (BTW, if you use the latest Chrome browser, it will offer to translate pages for you automatically, it is built in)

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #795 on: 10/15/2010 01:52 pm »
I see.

I apologise on the mistake earlier, Ptichka is OK 1.02 http://www.buran-energia.com/bourane-buran/bourane-modele-102.php

You know for the test vehicles like OK-M, perhaps a shelter should be built around them to protect it from the elements. Recall the Saturn V at Huston is now. I saw a documentary bit on that Saturn V and nature did take it's toll on the rocket. Thick aluminum turned to dust in places, corrosion. That would be nice seeing the remaining Buran orbiters not left to the open air and let nature destroy them. Some are in storage centers, yes. Though others like OK-M and OK 2.01 are left to fall apart. Sad. 

IMO OK-2.01 would make a cool exhibit piece for a museum. :)  I'd love to see it with one of the US shuttles side by side. The Smithsonian would make a great home for it.

I wonder why the Russian shuttle has extra nozzles for the nose jet steering as seen at http://www.buran-energia.com/bourane-buran/bourane-consti.php 

Videos someone posted at

« Last Edit: 10/16/2010 08:39 pm by MarkD »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #796 on: 10/24/2010 03:40 pm »
Guys checkout this persons amazing 3D models of Buran http://kulch.spb.ru/

http://www.buran.ru/images/jpg/3d-bur05.jpg 

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #797 on: 11/12/2010 01:31 pm »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #798 on: 11/12/2010 04:07 pm »
Wow, lots of Buran footage in that video I had never seen before - Thanks!

BTW, what LV/payload is shown between 2:26-2:42? It is a winged stage/rocket/payload launching in a sidemounted configuration which I have never seen before.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #799 on: 11/12/2010 04:31 pm »
Wow, lots of Buran footage in that video I had never seen before - Thanks!

BTW, what LV/payload is shown between 2:26-2:42? It is a winged stage/rocket/payload launching in a sidemounted configuration which I have never seen before.

It's a Burya cruise missile. It was a competiter to a program that was originally called "Buran". I assume that is what the reference is to.

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/burya.htm
« Last Edit: 11/12/2010 04:36 pm by JayP »

 

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