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#1200 by MKremer on 25 Oct, 2007 23:52
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Here's one I'm not sure has been covered yet -
How much blank printer paper do they have available? (And how many spare print cartridges?)
I'm guessing they leave most of their extra paper and printer supplies on the station when they leave.
Is it an off-the-shelf inkjet, or does it need special mods for zero-G operation and vibration isolation?
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#1201 by James Lowe1 on 27 Oct, 2007 05:08
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rdale - 25/10/2007 12:08 PM
Maybe they were in L2. The quotes from Gerst came from the press conference last week, so that's not really new either...
If they were quotes from a press conference then it wouldn't be in L2, or did you mean something else? If so, I can search and give an answer to this. -
#1202 by rdale on 27 Oct, 2007 14:32
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I don't remember James. If you watched the press conference, you heard the quote. I doubt the quote itself has a dedicated thread in L2 - I know I saw the discussion about the RCC panels in L2 though. I'm not sure if you were monitoring pre-launch, but there was NESC concern with the RCC panels and a new thermography technique. You can go to the homepage here (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com) and you'll see several articles about the issue.
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#1203 by Chris Bergin on 27 Oct, 2007 17:26
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There were a number of NESC presentations and I believe quotes attributed to Gerst via the SSP FRR approval doc in the rationale to fly as is in L2. That'll be it.
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#1204 by John2375 on 27 Oct, 2007 22:15
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Question about "camping out" _ when the EVA people for the next day "camp out" over night in Quest, I know they do that to purge their system of nitrogen. However, what about going to the bathroom? Do they use something there or can they come out and use the station/shuttle toilet or would that not be possible because of what they're trying to accomplish??
Thanks,
John
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#1205 by DaveS on 27 Oct, 2007 22:18
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John2375 - 27/10/2007 12:15 AM
They don a pure O2 mask prior to Quest repress and egress.
Question about "camping out" _ when the EVA people for the next day "camp out" over night in Quest, I know they do that to purge their system of nitrogen. However, what about going to the bathroom? Do they use something there or can they come out and use the station/shuttle toilet or would that not be possible because of what they're trying to accomplish??
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#1206 by tmckinley on 28 Oct, 2007 03:36
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On December 5th, a Delta II is scheduled to launch from Vandenberg. The next day is STS-120. Say the Delta II is delayed a day. Would the US launch two rockets on the same day? The Delta II is not a NASA launch, but what if it was a NASA launch, would NASA launch two rockets on the same day from other sides of the country? If so, has this ever happened?
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#1207 by MKremer on 28 Oct, 2007 04:12
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NASA (or Dod for that matter) couldn't launch two vehicles into different orbits on the same day, from the same location, regardless.
If one vehicle launches, and the other launches within 24 hrs all the way across the CONUS into an entirely different orbital plane, and they're calculated to guarantee there's no hazards for the 2nd vehicle to launch, I can't see any reason they can't both launch on the same day.
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#1208 by Jim on 28 Oct, 2007 12:23
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1. NASA only launches shuttles, ELV's are launched by commercial companies
2. NASA has one group that manages it's ELV launches and they have a 7-10 gap required.
3. Since ULA handles Delta and Atlas, they will avoid scheduling launches close together because of common support. Previously, there also existed a minimum gap between Delta II and Delta IV.
4. 48 hr turnaround on the same range
5. Launches from different ranges still may share assets.
But after all this, VAFB and CCAFS launches still could happen on the same day
Also NASA could support a VAFB ELV and a shuttle launch
risk adverseness would probably prevent this
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#1209 by blazotron on 29 Oct, 2007 04:12
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Hi Folks. I originally posted this on another thread, but it probably should have been here, so I have copied over the question and the answer posted there.Quote
blazotron - 28/10/2007 10:20 PM
This might well have been answered somewhere, but I can't find it through a search (although that may be a function of not knowing what to search for). I'm trying to figure out what all the regions and labels on the world map with ISS and shuttle orbits they sometimes have up in MCC and on the NASA TV feeds when there isn't more interesting stuff to show, as we have seen several times today. For instance here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/get-attachment-big.asp?acti...
I know some of the labels are SAA: South Atlantic Anomoly and ZOE: Zone of Exclusion, although I am not sure exactly what the ZOE is. There are some small roundish regions over Asia with labels lie SHKR, ULDM, USKR, PPKR, which be the ranges where the Russian ground stations can the station, but I am not sure. There are also three large regions roughly centered around the Sahara, southern Mexico, and Austrailia. I'm thinking these might be the ranges of the TDRSS satellites, but they do seem to roughly correlate to the locations of the large DSN dishes in CA, Spain, and Austrailia. Thanks for the help.
And the reply from that threadQuoteLife_Support_32 - 28/10/2007 9:17 PM
ZOE- The area where neither of the 2 primary TDRS satellites can reach. There is a satellite over the ZOE, but is not used during stage ops (when the shuttle is not there).
The roundish regions over Asia are the RS ground sites, which shows that communication using Russian assets is very limited.
The three large regions are the areas where the TDRS satellite associated with it cannot reach. So, you associate the color of the satellite with the oval color and you can see which satellite is in range over the ground track. (In the picture, the ISS is over the ZOE and has no signal from T174W or T045W).
Hope this helped!
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#1210 by usn_skwerl on 29 Oct, 2007 10:10
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Does anyone know where I could find a hi-res image of this, please?
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#1211 by Jim on 29 Oct, 2007 10:22
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Does anyone know where I could find a hi-res image of this, please?
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#1212 by usn_skwerl on 29 Oct, 2007 10:34
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I figured it was, because the Endeavour was built after Challenger, but I was hoping there was a larger pic of it somewhere.
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#1213 by TJL on 29 Oct, 2007 20:03
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Looking at Discovery in orbit, I can't recall seeing such a "vacant" payload bay.
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#1214 by jmjawors on 29 Oct, 2007 20:20
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TJL - 29/10/2007 4:03 PM
Looking at Discovery in orbit, I can't recall seeing such a "vacant" payload bay. Will this be the lightest orbiter on entry / landing?
I don't have the same impression. Surely Atlantis was as empty after delivering P3/4 and S3/4. And I believe Atlantis weighs less than Discovery.
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#1215 by psloss on 29 Oct, 2007 20:26
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TJL - 29/10/2007 5:03 PM
Not sure about landing weight, but any of the ISS assembly missions bringing up the large truss segments (spacers aside) would have looked very similar to that -- 8A/110, 9A/112, 11A/113, 12A/115, 13A/117.
Looking at Discovery in orbit, I can't recall seeing such a "vacant" payload bay.
Will this be the lightest orbiter on entry / landing?
Edit -- added a picture from the station of STS-110 after undock...
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#1216 by C5C6 on 29 Oct, 2007 20:32
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what's the whole purpose of the OBSS handoff from SSRMS to SRMS??? i dont understand.....isn't the OBSS returned to its position in the payload bay after flight day 2 inspections??? there's somwething i'm not aware of........
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#1217 by TJL on 29 Oct, 2007 21:06
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That's right...I guess I was thinking of the shuttle flights that had Spacehab or MPLM coming down...thanks for reminding me.
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#1218 by DaveS on 29 Oct, 2007 21:23
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C5C6 - 29/10/2007 10:32 PM
When the orbiter is docked, PMA-2 is in the way. The SSRMS is used to unberth/berth the OBSS by grappling its mid grapple fixture letting the SRMS grapple the forward grapple fixture.
what's the whole purpose of the OBSS handoff from SSRMS to SRMS??? i dont understand.....isn't the OBSS returned to its position in the payload bay after flight day 2 inspections??? there's somwething i'm not aware of........
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#1219 by Ford Mustang on 29 Oct, 2007 21:25
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C5C6 - 29/10/2007 5:32 PM
what's the whole purpose of the OBSS handoff from SSRMS to SRMS??? i dont understand.....isn't the OBSS returned to its position in the payload bay after flight day 2 inspections??? there's somwething i'm not aware of........
On 120, they had to unberth Node 2, which would have hit the OBSS had it not have been handed off to the SSRMS.. After that, it is then returned to the payload bay. This is also the case if they need to do focused inspections (like on 118), seeing as how Destiny and the PMA are in the way of the SRMS (which would hit into Destiny had it try to grapple the OBSS).
