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#100
by
Tahii
on 06 Feb, 2007 17:25
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elmarko - 6/2/2007 8:38 PM
1) How detailed do you go?
2) Do you put special L2-style info on there (kind of related to 1) )
3) Who will edit it? Public editing, like Wikipedia? As long as we're all sensible, it would police itself, as Wikipedia does.
For me:
1). as detailed as possible - that to me is the general idea - have it very detailed, but such that someone new to spaceflight can understand it
2). L2 stuff could go in after a set timeframe, say, after whatever the information is about has passed
3). I believe that you can password Wiki's. When you sign up to NSF, or become a L2 member, part of the email that you get could contain a generic password for editing the site. That would mean only those from here could edit it, but it could be available to everyone to view. I think we have enough knowledge around here that editing it could just be restricted even to a few people.
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#101
by
elmarko
on 06 Feb, 2007 17:51
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I like all of your ideas, especially 3), but I'm not sure you could apply 2) everywhere. For instance, information about a certain subject published on L2 may never "go out of date" so to speak, so by your definition, it'd never go on the wiki

Good start, though.
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#102
by
Tahii
on 07 Feb, 2007 04:00
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The idea for 2). there is for things like updates, like we get the weekly or daily updates now - once a new one comes out, any special info from the previous could go into the Wiki. For other non-repetitive things, there would have to be a time limit imposed, or for some things, Chris could put a full embargo over it, so it didn't go into the Wiki full stop.
I must admit, I really like the idea of something like a Wiki run by this site.
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#103
by
TJL
on 08 Feb, 2007 19:57
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I am doing a paper on Shuttle and ISS and need to know the payload weights for each of the 20 shuttle launches sent to ISS.
Does anyone have, or know where I can get that info? (Was unable to find anything in "Q & A" section)
Thank you very much!
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#104
by
Jim
on 08 Feb, 2007 20:00
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The Q&A section is where you make your request
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#105
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Feb, 2007 20:04
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It's ok, I allowed him to post in General for a fast answer. It can be moved to Q&A later.
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#106
by
nathan.moeller
on 08 Feb, 2007 20:11
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#107
by
mkirk
on 08 Feb, 2007 20:14
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#108
by
TJL
on 08 Feb, 2007 20:56
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Thanks, guys...just what I was looking for...appreciate all you assistance!
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#109
by
shuttlefan
on 10 Feb, 2007 00:10
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With regards to the photo of the tornado near Columbia on the pad for STS-93, posted in the STS-117 VAB thread-- I think I heard that for one of the 61-C launch attempts in 1986, the crew was waiting for a break in the weather when lightning was flashing all around them. Were they quite safe in the Shuttle with the launch pad lightning rod, or was there an added element of risk to them? Also was that the worst weather during which a countdown was conducted?
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#110
by
nathan.moeller
on 11 Feb, 2007 01:05
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The lightning tower took a hit before launch of STS-106 Atlantis back in 2000. Here's a question pertaining to launch spectators. I've seen quite a few launch videos taken by the public who attend the events, especially from the press site. In many of those videos, about between T+60 seconds and T+70 seconds, people let up a huge cheer. Why is that? I understand liftoff and SRB sep, but this happens right before the 'Go at Throttle Up' call.
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#111
by
shuttlefan
on 11 Feb, 2007 01:39
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nathan.moeller - 10/2/2007 8:05 PM
The lightning tower took a hit before launch of STS-106 Atlantis back in 2000. Here's a question pertaining to launch spectators. I've seen quite a few launch videos taken by the public who attend the events, especially from the press site. In many of those videos, about between T+60 seconds and T+70 seconds, people let up a huge cheer. Why is that? I understand liftoff and SRB sep, but this happens right before the 'Go at Throttle Up' call.
Don't know, but perhaps because they know the throttle up call is just about to ocurr?
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#112
by
TJL
on 11 Feb, 2007 02:16
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QUOTE...In many of those videos, about between T+60 seconds and T+70 seconds, people let up a huge cheer. Why is that?
I believe it's because the sound of launch has decreased enough for the cheering sound of the viewers to be heard.
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#113
by
nathan.moeller
on 11 Feb, 2007 02:32
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TJL - 10/2/2007 9:16 PM
QUOTE...In many of those videos, about between T+60 seconds and T+70 seconds, people let up a huge cheer. Why is that?
I believe it's because the sound of launch has decreased enough for the cheering sound of the viewers to be heard.
No. You can hear people talking throughout the lfitoff. They start cheering very suddenly and loudly. They don't cheer like mad throughout the whole launch.
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#114
by
rolly
on 13 Feb, 2007 17:44
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I wonder what is the colour of the plasma glow that envelopes the space shuttle during reentry. How bright is the glow during the peak heating pharase altitude 250,000-150,000 feet.
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#115
by
nathan.moeller
on 13 Feb, 2007 17:58
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rolly - 13/2/2007 12:44 PM
I wonder what is the colour of the plasma glow that envelopes the space shuttle during reentry. How bright is the glow during the peak heating pharase altitude 250,000-150,000 feet.
Welcome to the site Rolly. The plasma glow is basically like fire. The view out the forward windows shows bright orange, yellow, red, etc. The view out the overheads shows a flashing light and the white plasma trail behind. And it is very bright

Starts slow, builds up to an extreme level of brightness and intensity and then dissipates rather quickly. Check out the STS-115 re-entry video on L2 sometime. Well worth the price. It shows the crew on the flight deck from the de-orbit burn until sunrise on the runway. Dazzling stuff!
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#116
by
Joffan
on 13 Feb, 2007 18:33
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nathan.moeller - 10/2/2007 7:05 PM
I've seen quite a few launch videos taken by the public who attend the events, especially from the press site. In many of those videos, about between T+60 seconds and T+70 seconds, people let up a huge cheer. Why is that? I understand liftoff and SRB sep, but this happens right before the 'Go at Throttle Up' call.
I'm not sure how far away the spectators are - could this be when the sound of the launch reaches them? That would make them about 12-13 miles from the launch pad, which sounds a lot further than I would have guessed. From Google maps I'd guess that the spectators are around 3-5 miles from the launch.
The other sound it could be - I don't know if this happens - when the Shuttle breaks the sound barrier, does a sonic boom go
back from there?
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#117
by
nathan.moeller
on 13 Feb, 2007 18:52
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Joffan - 13/2/2007 1:33 PM
I'm not sure how far away the spectators are - could this be when the sound of the launch reaches them? That would make them about 12-13 miles from the launch pad, which sounds a lot further than I would have guessed. From Google maps I'd guess that the spectators are around 3-5 miles from the launch.
The other sound it could be - I don't know if this happens - when the Shuttle breaks the sound barrier, does a sonic boom go back from there?
No. The press site is about 3.5-4 miles from the pad and it takes approximately 6-7 seconds for the sound of the boosters to reach the spectators there. It could be breaking the sound barrier, but I've never heard a sonic boom on any video, whether it comes from NASA TV or a spectator. That's possible though and I hadn't thought of that.
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#118
by
Jim
on 13 Feb, 2007 19:11
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Sonic booms at launch are focused down range
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#119
by
STS-500Cmdr
on 14 Feb, 2007 03:00
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For some people the throttle up call is connected to memories of Challenger.