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Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« on: 08/31/2024 03:29 pm »
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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #1 on: 08/31/2024 03:41 pm »
Someone’s knocking at the door!

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #2 on: 08/31/2024 06:28 pm »
What's this capsule have for it's 2nd act....will it start sounding like a dematerializing Tardis?

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #3 on: 08/31/2024 06:37 pm »
Summary of the recording (MP3) attached to the original post: astronaut Butch on the ISS asked ground why Starliner's speakers are producing a pulsing noise similar to sonar pings.
« Last Edit: 08/31/2024 06:39 pm by deltaV »

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #4 on: 08/31/2024 11:09 pm »
This is not very surprising for a system without a history of full up HIL testing.
From the 16 pulse train recorded, it’s pretty close to 1.0 Hz and steady, “metronomic”.
Some clock pulse is getting into the audio.
It’s no big deal, except that it increases the likelihood that there are other cross-talk paths elsewhere that just don’t make themselves obvious.
Not the sort of thing that’s tolerable around thrusters and pyrotechnics.

Edit: But “giving the crew fits” is quite an exaggeration.  Wilmore remains professional and unperturbed, just curious.  He’s supposed to report system characteristics, and he did.

Maybe the flammable tape was shielding or separating  the wire bundles.  ;)

But thanks Bob Shaw.  ::)
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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #5 on: 09/01/2024 02:15 am »
What's this capsule have for it's 2nd act....will it start sounding like a dematerializing Tardis?

As a Doctor Who fan, this would be hilarious if things with Starliner weren't so serious.

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #6 on: 09/01/2024 02:48 am »
This is not very surprising for a system without a history of full up HIL testing.

……

Starliner has done HIL testing, including full mission simulations.
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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #7 on: 09/01/2024 02:50 am »
What's this capsule have for it's 2nd act....will it start sounding like a dematerializing Tardis?

As a Doctor Who fan, this would be hilarious if things with Starliner weren't so serious.

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #8 on: 09/01/2024 03:28 am »
What's this capsule have for it's 2nd act....will it start sounding like a dematerializing Tardis?

As a Doctor Who fan, this would be hilarious if things with Starliner weren't so serious.

Nothing a Sonic Screwdriver can't fix!

Definitely! I doubt there's any wood involved.

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #9 on: 09/01/2024 10:35 am »
What's this capsule have for it's 2nd act....will it start sounding like a dematerializing Tardis?

As a Doctor Who fan, this would be hilarious if things with Starliner weren't so serious.

Nothing a Sonic Screwdriver can't fix!

Definitely! I doubt there's any wood involved.

2 comments:
1) are there any keys and piano strings up there? (clue: Look up the Tardis noise)

2) Next conversation:

Butch to Houston: The noise had changed a bit, now sounds a bit like a midget pounding on something with a hammer!
<pause>
Houston: We've discussed it with the folks here on the ground and we're sending you a procedure to take the hammer away from the little guy....


(Misquoted from here and lots of other sources)
« Last Edit: 09/01/2024 01:08 pm by litton4 »
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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #10 on: 09/01/2024 11:35 am »
« Last Edit: 09/01/2024 01:54 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #11 on: 09/01/2024 12:14 pm »
Oh boy! He's in for it now. Should have said "person of short stature" instead of the m-word.

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #12 on: 09/01/2024 02:00 pm »
https://x.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1830180273130242223?

It sounds like an episode of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
« Last Edit: 09/01/2024 02:03 pm by Star One »

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #13 on: 09/01/2024 02:14 pm »
Ah, so it is also haunted.

https://twitter.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1830180273130242223

I heard that live.  The mission director, no CAPCOM on Saturday, then asked Butch if he thought the issue was serious because Starliner controllers weren't planning to come in till Tuesday.  No further updates because the ISS Youtube feed has failed yet again.
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #14 on: 09/01/2024 02:28 pm »
Eric Berger has picked up on this (and links to the op on this thread):

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/starliners-speaker-began-emitting-strange-sonar-noises-on-saturday/

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The Starliner spacecraft has started to emit strange noises
"I don't know what's making it."

by Eric Berger - Sep 1, 2024 2:13pm GMT

On Saturday NASA astronaut Butch Wilmore noticed some strange noises emanating from a speaker inside the Starliner spacecraft.
« Last Edit: 09/01/2024 02:28 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #15 on: 09/01/2024 05:13 pm »
Eric Berger has picked up on this (and links to the op on this thread):

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/starliners-speaker-began-emitting-strange-sonar-noises-on-saturday/

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The Starliner spacecraft has started to emit strange noises
"I don't know what's making it."

by Eric Berger - Sep 1, 2024 2:13pm GMT

On Saturday NASA astronaut Butch Wilmore noticed some strange noises emanating from a speaker inside the Starliner spacecraft.

Reminds me of Tiny the 50 lb Savanah cat smuggled on board the Vorpal Blade by Miss Miriam Moon in "Claws That Catch" by John Ringo.

Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #16 on: 09/01/2024 05:46 pm »
It sounded like Darth Vader to me. How can it get any more embarrassing for Boeing?

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #17 on: 09/01/2024 06:30 pm »
It sounded like Darth Vader to me. How can it get any more embarrassing for Boeing?

LMAO

 

Starliner "I find your lack of faith IN ME, disturbing." (proceeds to telekinesically choke ISS crew to near death)

« Last Edit: 09/01/2024 06:31 pm by Spiceman »

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #18 on: 09/02/2024 02:33 am »
https://twitter.com/peterrhague/status/1830276297391513925

NASA ground controllers are figuring out what this noise from Starliner really is. (when they bother to come into work on Tuesday :) )
« Last Edit: 09/02/2024 04:52 am by FutureSpaceTourist »
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: Starliner Sonar giving the crew fits
« Reply #19 on: 09/02/2024 04:53 am »
https://twitter.com/cmdr_hadfield/status/1830380090569494973

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There are several noises I'd prefer not to hear inside my spaceship, including this one that @Boeing Starliner is now making.

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