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Thread for the Starlink Group 10-4 launch.

Launch NET 19 July 2024, at 05:43 UTC (1:43 am EDT), from CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 10xx-x.  The first stage will likely land aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas.

Payload 23 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a northeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit nnn x nnn km?

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My bold:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated June 22:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 23 at 1:15-5:01 p.m. EDT. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA & NOAA's GOES-U weather satellite from pad 39A on June 25 at 5:16-7:16 p.m. EDT. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 27 at 7:00-11:00 a.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Turksat 6A communication satellite on July 7.

Currently scheduled and extrapolation, SLC-40 and ASDS turnarounds, UTC:

Jun 23  17:15  Starlink 10-2  ASOG ✅️

Jun 27  11:00  Starlink 10-3  JRTI

Jun 30  07:11  Starlink 8-9    ASOG

~Jul 3   TBD    Starlink TBD  JRTI

Jul 8     02:00  Turksat 6A     SLC-40?/ASOG?
« Last Edit: 06/26/2024 12:02 am by zubenelgenubi »
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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated June 26:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 27 at 7:14-11:00 a.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 30 at 3:11-7:11 a.m EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Turksat 6A communication satellite on July 7. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.
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My bold:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated June 27:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on July 2 at 2:24-6:24 a.m EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Turksat 6A communication satellite from pad 40 on July 7. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.

I now predict that this Starlink launch will be after July 8 UTC, and probably from KSC LC-39A.

Currently scheduled and extrapolation, SLC-40 and ASDS turnarounds, UTC:

Jun 27    11:14        Starlink 10-3  JRTI ✅️

Jul 3 2    06:01 :24  Starlink 8-9    ASOG

Jul 8        02:00       Turksat 6A     JRTI ASDS

~Jul 10   TBD          Starlink TBD  LC-39A?/ASOG ASDS
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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated June 29 or 30:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on July 3 at 2:01-6:01 a.m EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Turksat 6A communication satellite from pad 40 on July 8 around 5-7 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40.

Currently scheduled and extrapolation, SLC-40 and ASDS turnarounds, UTC:

Jul 3              06:57 :01  Starlink 8-9                        ASOG?

Jul 8              21:20        Turksat 6A                         JRTI?

~Jul 11/12   TBD          Starlink TBD                      ASOG?

Jul 15?          TBD          WorldView Legion 3 & 4  LC-39A or SLC-40/LZ-1

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Last Group 7 launched: 2 April 2024

These first batches of these satelllites were raised to 510 km at 53.05°, then lowered (!) in early April to 480 km @ 53.15°. The rest went directly to 480 km 53.15°. Then came Group 8, 9 and 10, all at 53.15°. I think we can assume that Group 7 a finished experiment, no more launches.

Last group 6 launched: 1 Juni 2024

But so far no successors at 43°, so rather unclear of this will be continued or succeeded by some new group.

On the other hand: Group 7 was phased out not long before the start of regular direct-to-cell launches (and lowering them to 480 km may be related to direct-to-cell operation). So I suspect Group 6 is also done, phasing out the non-d2c-capable satellites.
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Starlink operational orbits

Group 7-1..7:    510 km => 480 km
Group 7-8:       480 km
Group 7-9:       360 km (direct-to-cell), 450 km (other)
Group 7-10:      550 km
Group 7-11..15:  480 km
Group 7-16..18:  450 km

Group 8:         360 km (direct-to-cell), 450 km (other)
Group 9:           ? km (direct-to-cell), ? km (other)
Group 10:          ? km


This looks like Group 7 was for evaluating direct-to-cell and new orbits. Only 550 km has been used before (by Group 1), all the other orbits are new. Group 8 ,9 and 10 succeed Group 7 for different orbital heights, all 53.15°. Currently no launches to other inclinations.

Overview of Starlink operational orbits: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Starlink-Satellitenstarts#Statistik
« Last Edit: 07/06/2024 01:13 pm by PM3 »
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Well Starlink Group 10-4 has appeared with launch being NET early July 12:

F2406/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5218S11722E850
A) YMMM
B) 2407121033 C) 2407181302
D) 2407121033 TO 2407121516
   2407131011 TO 2407131454
   2407140948 TO 2407141431
   2407150926 TO 2407151409
   2407160904 TO 2407161347
   2407170841 TO 2407171324
   2407180819 TO 2407181302
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF SPACEX STARLINK 10-4 STAGE 2
WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS:
4802S 15955E
4711S 15859E
5117S 11527E
3952S 08205E
4136S 08009E
5337S 11428E
4927S 15948E TO BEGINNING
PRIMARY LAUNCH 240712
BACKUP AS PER FIELD D
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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Primary launch window is expected to be 08:20-12:20 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
070535Z JUL 24
NAVAREA IV 788/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   120820Z TO 121250Z JUL, ALTERNATE
   130758Z TO 131228Z, 140735Z TO 141205Z,
   150713Z TO 151143Z, 160651Z TO 161121Z,
   170628Z TO 171058Z AND 180606Z TO 181036Z JUL
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.06N 080-37.73W, 28-53.00N 080-21.00W,
       28-48.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
       28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
   B. 32-00.00N 076-41.00W, 32-39.00N 076-21.00W,
       33-08.00N 075-40.00W, 33-26.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-21.00N 074-52.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-54.00N 076-32.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 181136Z JUL 24.

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My bold:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated July 7:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Turksat 6A communication satellite for Turkey from pad 40 on July 8 at 5:21-9:13 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on July 12 at 4:20-8:20 a.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Polaris Dawn spaceflight participant mission on July 31. A Falcon 9 will launch the Cygnus NG-21 resupply mission to the International Space Station on August 3 around 10 a.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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Jellyfish sighting possibility.    Starlink 10-4 on 12 July 2024.

A SpaceX Falcon 9 will launch Starlink satellites on a northeastern trajectory from Florida on 12 July 2024.  I do not know how early a launch will result in second stage jellyfish sightings.  However, the launch trajectory is to the northeast which is probably heading towards orbital sunrise.  The previous launch on 3 July 2024 at 4:55 AM EDT was right at astronomical twilight and did produce a jellyfish close to the distant horizon (see photo below).

Perhaps states northeast of Florida will have a better viewing of the jellyfish with a launch at or before astronomical twilight.

Launch window:  4:20 AM EDT

Launch site sun event data  (12 July 2024):

Astronomical Twilight: 5:02 AM EDT
Nautical Twilight: 5:35 AM EDT
Civil twilight: 6:07 AM EDT
Sunrise: 6:34 AM EDT

The following is from the 3 July 2024 Starlink launch:


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Well Starlink Group 10-4 has appeared with launch being NET early July 12:

NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Maps from the combined notices.

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Postponed one day per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice.

July 13 with expected launch window of 07:58-11:58 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
081846Z JUL 24
NAVAREA IV 794/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   130758Z TO 131228Z JUL, ALTERNATE
   140735Z TO 141205Z, 150713Z TO 151143Z,
   160651Z TO 161121Z, 170628Z TO 171058Z
   AND 180606Z TO 181036Z JUL
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.06N 080-37.73W, 28-53.00N 080-21.00W,
      28-48.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
      28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
   B. 32-00.00N 076-41.00W, 32-39.00N 076-21.00W,
      33-08.00N 075-40.00W, 33-26.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-21.00N 074-52.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-54.00N 076-32.00W,
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 788/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 181136Z JUL 24.

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Launch apparently delayed one more day to July 14; my bold:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated July 8, after Türksat 6A launch:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on July 14 at 3:35-7:35 a.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Polaris Dawn spaceflight participant mission from pad 39A on July 31. A Falcon 9 will launch the Cygnus NG-21 resupply mission to the International Space Station from pad 40 on August 3 around 10 a.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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Launch apparently delayed one more day to July 14; my bold:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated July 8, after Türksat 6A launch:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on July 14 at 3:35-7:35 a.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Polaris Dawn spaceflight participant mission from pad 39A on July 31. A Falcon 9 will launch the Cygnus NG-21 resupply mission to the International Space Station from pad 40 on August 3 around 10 a.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.

And confirmed:

F2432/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5240S11723E999
A) YMMM
B) 2407140948 C) 2407181302
D) 2407140948 TO 2407141431
   2407150926 TO 2407151409
   2407160904 TO 2407161347
   2407170841 TO 2407171324
   2407180819 TO 2407181302
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF SPACEX STARLINK 10-4 STAGE 2 WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS:
4802S 15955E
4711S 15859E
5117S 11527E
3952S 08205E
4136S 08009E
5337S 11428E
4927S 15948E TO BEGINNING
PRIMARY LAUNCH 240714
BACKUP AS PER FIELD D
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Which first stage will be used for this launch? (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use over twenty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.

1064.6 and 1065.6 are the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Europa Clipper.

1072.2 and 1086.2 are being converted to "single-sticks" after their recovery as the Falcon Heavy side boosters from the GOES-U launch.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1083.4     May 8     Polaris Dawn?
1077.14   May 24
1067.21  Jun 5
1069.17  Jun 8
1080.10  Jun 20
1078.12  June 23
1072.2    June 25  (maybe)
1086.2    June 25  (maybe)
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https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1811510800420601922

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SpaceX's A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship is underway from Port Canaveral to support Starlink 10-4. Tug Signet Warhorse I is towing. nsf.live/spacecoast

Signet Warhorse I + ASOG departed PC on Jul 11 @ 5:23pm ET

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https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1811808635929960929

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A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship- which was underway for Starlink 10-4 - appears to have changed course and is no longer heading northeast towards the mission landing zone.

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This launch is now postponed to July 17 (expected launch window 06:28-10:28 UTC) per this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice.

Assuming that this postponement is because of the 9-3 anomaly, SpaceX must expect to get it cleared up quickly.

Note that there are two notices canceled. The first one is the prior notice for this launch. The second one is the notice that should have immediately preceded this notice but never arrived. My guess is that it is one of the occasional "failed to propagate" notices and they're taking advantage of this new notice to officially cancel it. The failed notice may have also been for this postponement.

Quote from: NGA
121747Z JUL 24
NAVAREA IV 816/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
UNITED STATES.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   170628Z TO 171058Z JUL, ALTERNATE
   180606Z TO 181036Z IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.06N 080-37.73W, 28-53.00N 080-21.00W,
      28-48.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
      28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
   B. 32-00.00N 076-41.00W, 32-39.00N 076-21.00W,
      33-08.00N 075-40.00W, 33-26.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-21.00N 074-52.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-54.00N 076-32.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 794/24.
3. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 815/24.
4. CANCEL THIS MSG 181136Z JUL 24.

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