SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 10-4 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 July 2024 (05:09 UTC)

• #40 by zubenelgenubi on 21 Jul, 2024 15:05
• Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 20 Jul, 2024 00:30

  SFN Launch Schedule, 2nd update July 19:
  Launch NET 24 July 04:14 UTC
  

  
  NextSpaceflight; updated July 21:
  Launch 24 July 04:14 UTC, with the accompanying note
  

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  Pending FAA approval following the failure of the Starlink Group 9-3 mission.
  

  
  And, as of today 13:46 UTC:
  https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/23/24   0414Z-0844Z
  BACKUP:      07/24/24   0414Z-0844Z
        07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z
        07/26/24   0413Z-0843Z
        07/27/24   0413Z-0843Z
        07/28/24   0413Z-0843Z
        07/29/24   0412Z-0842Z
  
• #41 by StraumliBlight on 22 Jul, 2024 12:15
• District 7 Broadcast Notice to Mariners Message [July 21]
  
  

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  2. Hazard periods for primary launch day and backup launch days (all times are represented as Zulu time unless otherwise indicated):
  24/0414 JUL 24 to 24/0844 JUL 24.
  25/0414 JUL 24 to 25/0844 JUL 24.
  26/0413 JUL 24 to 26/0843 JUL 24.
  27/0413 JUL 24 to 27/0843 JUL 24.
  28/0413 JUL 24 to 28/0843 JUL 24.
  29/0412 JUL 24 to 29/0842 JUL 24.

  
  Hazard Areas map
  
  NOTAM July 24, 2024 at 04:04-08:33 UTC
  NOTAM July 25, 2024 at 04:04-08:33 UTC

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• #42 by realnouns on 22 Jul, 2024 13:17
• Quote from: realnouns on 18 Jul, 2024 16:05

  Signet Warhorse I + ASOG departed PC on Jul 18 @ 9:35am ET
  

  
  

  Quote from: crandles57 on 20 Jul, 2024 13:35

  ASOG and Signet Warhorse I now also back at port Canaveral
  
  https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1814632266703786428
  

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  A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship has arrived back at Port Canaveral this morning.
  
  We'll have to wait a little longer for the return of Falcon 9 flights. 🫡
• #43 by realnouns on 22 Jul, 2024 13:18
• Signet Warhorse I + ASOG departed PC on Jul 21 @ 4:04pm ET

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• #44 by realnouns on 22 Jul, 2024 13:18
• Bob departed PC on Jul 22 @ 7:28am ET

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• #45 by zubenelgenubi on 22 Jul, 2024 15:37
• Quote from: realnouns on 22 Jul, 2024 13:18

  Signet Warhorse I + ASOG departed PC on Jul 21 @ 4:04pm ET
  

  
  https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1815120798702551180
  

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  Here we go again... Hoping for resumption of Falcon 9 flights? 🤞
  
  A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship is outbound from Port Canaveral.
  

  
  And, as of today 13:36 UTC:
  https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/24/24   0414Z-0844Z
  BACKUP:      07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z
        07/26/24   0413Z-0843Z
        07/27/24   0413Z-0843Z
        07/28/24   0413Z-0843Z
        07/29/24   0412Z-0842Z
  
• #46 by FutureSpaceTourist on 22 Jul, 2024 15:50
• https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1815117215961956852
  
  

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  A Shortfall of Gravitas departs Port Canaveral this afternoon. 3rd time’s the charm?
• #47 by Ken the Bin on 22 Jul, 2024 16:06
• The primary day from the NGA Rocket Launching notice is still July 23, but the FAA has created Temporary Flight Restrictions. They did not create any for July 23, but they created them for July 24 and July 25.
  
  July 24:
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5422.html (ZMA)
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5420.html (ZJX)
  
  July 25:
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5424.html (ZMA)
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5423.html (ZJX)
  
  Edit: This does NOT mean that the FAA has granted a public safety determination that will allow SpaceX to launch. AFAIK that has not yet happened.
• #48 by mn on 22 Jul, 2024 17:12
• Do NOTAMs need to be issued x amount of time prior to launch?
  
  Why is the FAA issuing NOTAMs before clearing them for actual launch?
• #49 by AmigaClone on 22 Jul, 2024 18:38
• Quote from: mn on 22 Jul, 2024 17:12

  Do NOTAMs need to be issued x amount of time prior to launch?
  
  Why is the FAA issuing NOTAMs before clearing them for actual launch?
  

  
  Non emergency NOTAMs need to be issued x amount of time before becoming active.
  
  Because it's possible that Falcon 9 would be cleared to launch by then.
• #50 by Ken the Bin on 22 Jul, 2024 21:29
• Cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice postponing to July 25 (expected launch window 04:14-08:14 UTC).
  
  

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  222023Z JUL 24
  NAVAREA IV 862/24(11,26).
  WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
  FLORIDA.
  1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
     250414Z TO 250844Z JUL, ALTERNATE 
     0412Z TO 0843Z DAILY 26 THRU 29 JUL
     IN AREAS BOUND BY:
     A. 28-39.06N 080-37.73W, 28-53.00N 080-21.00W,
        28-48.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
        28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
     B. 32-00.00N 076-41.00W, 32-39.00N 076-21.00W,
        33-08.00N 075-40.00W, 33-26.00N 075-00.00W,
        33-21.00N 074-52.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
        32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-54.00N 076-32.00W.
  2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 851/24.
  3. CANCEL THIS MSG 290943Z JUL 24.
• #51 by FutureSpaceTourist on 22 Jul, 2024 21:36
• https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1815460431517151286
  
  

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  Upcoming launches, including the potential return to flight for SpaceX's Falcon 9.
  
  By Martin Smith.

  
  https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/07/launch-roundup-072224/
• #52 by Ken the Bin on 23 Jul, 2024 03:53
• Quote from: Ken the Bin on 22 Jul, 2024 16:06

  The primary day from the NGA Rocket Launching notice is still July 23, but the FAA has created Temporary Flight Restrictions. They did not create any for July 23, but they created them for July 24 and July 25.
  
  July 24:
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5422.html (ZMA)
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5420.html (ZJX)
  
  July 25:
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5424.html (ZMA)
  https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_5423.html (ZJX)
  
  Edit: This does NOT mean that the FAA has granted a public safety determination that will allow SpaceX to launch. AFAIK that has not yet happened.
  

  
  The TFRs for July 24 are gone.
• #53 by Martin_G on 23 Jul, 2024 07:07
• Two launches from Florida within 7 minutes - that could be fun.
  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z

  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-9, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0421Z-0851Z
• #54 by ZachS09 on 23 Jul, 2024 12:03
• Quote from: Martin_G on 23 Jul, 2024 07:07

  Two launches from Florida within 7 minutes - that could be fun.
  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z

  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-9, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0421Z-0851Z

  
  Can’t say I’d count on it unless the FAA is like, “All right. We’ll let you try it.”
• #55 by Bob Niland on 23 Jul, 2024 13:06
• Quote from: Martin_G on 23 Jul, 2024 07:07

  Two launches from Florida within 7 minutes - that could be fun.
  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z

  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-9, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0421Z-0851Z

  If 10-4 is the return-to-flight, that wouldn't even allow enough time for the first launch to demonstrate problem-solved (get past 2nd stage re-light) before 10-9 would launch. So, seems an unlikely timeline just on that basis.
• #56 by mn on 23 Jul, 2024 13:33
• Quote from: Bob Niland on 23 Jul, 2024 13:06

  Quote from: Martin_G on 23 Jul, 2024 07:07

  Two launches from Florida within 7 minutes - that could be fun.
  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z

  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-9, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0421Z-0851Z

  If 10-4 is the return-to-flight, that wouldn't even allow enough time for the first launch to demonstrate problem-solved (get past 2nd stage re-light) before 10-9 would launch. So, seems an unlikely timeline just on that basis.
  

  
  If the FAA allows the launch on the basis that it is not a public safety threat they don't necessarily have to prove that the problem is solved (they haven't even claimed that it is solved, they only requested permission t launch as is)
• #57 by Vettedrmr on 23 Jul, 2024 15:05
• Still, I fully expect SpaceX to monitor the next launch completely before setting the next launch date.
• #58 by Comga on 23 Jul, 2024 16:19
• Quote from: Martin_G on 23 Jul, 2024 07:07

  Two launches from Florida within 7 minutes - that could be fun.
  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0414Z-0844Z

  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-9, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL
  PRIMARY:   07/25/24   0421Z-0851Z

  The surest way to deconflict two launches is to schedule them at the same time and wait for delays to solve the problem.
  My guess is that if both are ready to go at the start of 10-4’s fueling SpaceX will push 10-9 farther out into its launch window.
• #59 by GewoonLukas_ on 23 Jul, 2024 21:44
• FAA advisory now has it for NET the 26th:
  
  

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  SPACEX STARLINK 10-4, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
  PRIMARY:  07/26/24    0414Z-0843Z
  BACKUP:   07/27/24    0413Z-0843Z
                  07/28/24    0413Z-0843Z
                  07/29/24    0412Z-0842Z
  

  
  https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp