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New ways to Search?
« on: 06/14/2024 12:05 am »
Mentioned here in NASA's June 2022 update

All true, but I was angling more for the original announcements of such. Turns out, I should have just scrolled down the page a bit in the Starliner section. We had a mini thread about it back in April of 2018. I'd forgotten that those talks had begun even before the uncrewed flights had flown.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45464.0

The number one problem with this forum right here.  It's more a database then a forum in a way.  The search is the worse part of this whole place IMO.  There is just so much to sift though with results because so many of the keywords are the same for totally different things.

So Chris... Have you thought about making a smallish LLM of all the content of this entire site and use it as the new search?  That, IMO, would be amazing........  Add in all the close captions in your videos and Discord content....that would be one insightful NSFi :D

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Re: New ways to Search?
« Reply #1 on: 06/14/2024 12:24 am »
Mentioned here in NASA's June 2022 update

All true, but I was angling more for the original announcements of such. Turns out, I should have just scrolled down the page a bit in the Starliner section. We had a mini thread about it back in April of 2018. I'd forgotten that those talks had begun even before the uncrewed flights had flown.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45464.0

The number one problem with this forum right here.  It's more a database then a forum in a way.  The search is the worse part of this whole place IMO.  There is just so much to sift though with results because so many of the keywords are the same for totally different things.

So Chris... Have you thought about making a smallish LLM of all the content of this entire site and use it as the new search?  That, IMO, would be amazing........  Add in all the close captions in your videos and Discord content....that would be one insightful NSFi :D

Simple.  Let Google do all the work.

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Re: New ways to Search?
« Reply #2 on: 06/14/2024 01:31 am »
I do that when i'm really trying to find something, but....it feels dirty...  ;D

There is a big o ribbon button that says "Search" dedicated to some prime web page space.  What it goes to is just  :'( to work with.  The fact that someone who lives a lot of their waking life here and the first response is basically, use Google, well...to me...that's just kinda funny and sad all at the same time.  The poor search link needs to do well....something... :-\

Think of it this way.  If NSF had a mini LLM like ChatGPT but only with NFS knowlage'd training sources, it becomes an incredible search engine for a site with a large amount of data.  We have a graduate assistant working on something like this with our help desk ticketing system and all transcribed voice calls.  When you ask it any number of statements like, "My file share won't connect.", It usually takes 3 additional questions from the "ai", on average, to arrive at the correct solution to their issue.  Initial internal testing is amazing so far.

These chat ais are only as smart as what they know.  One that could speak only NSF would be pretty cool and something none of the others space journalist/news productions have.

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As I said...that would be amazing...just saying.

On a note...I have thought about doing this myself...but I just don't have A, the resources or B, and most of note...time.  That little project took a dual 4090 4 months to train our 12GB ticketing database.  Per week updates take ~4 hours.  I couldn't imagine how much would be needed to chew this whole site plus the other content in a reasonable amount of time.

But my main point still stands.  Can we actually make the "Search" button well...useful, however it's decided...even if it's just a google redirect and output in the window...which is still dirty... ;D

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Re: New ways to Search?
« Reply #3 on: 06/14/2024 02:15 am »
I do that when i'm really trying to find something, but....it feels dirty...  ;D



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