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SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 10-1 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 7/8 June 2024 (01:56 UTC)
by
zubenelgenubi
on 30 May, 2024 02:00
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Thread for the Starlink Group 10-1 launch.
Launch 8 June 2024, at 01:56:00 UTC (9:56 pm EDT), from CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 1069-16. The first stage successfully landed aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas.Payload 22 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a northeastern trajectory. Initial orbit 266 x 279 km.
Please use the
Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.
Check the
Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.
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#1
by
zubenelgenubi
on 30 May, 2024 02:13
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Starlink 6-64 is scheduled to launch May 31 UTC from SLC-40, likely
JRTI first stage recovery.
Starlink 8-5 is scheduled to launch NET June 4 UTC from SLC-40, likely
ASOG 1st stage recovery.
LC-39A has apparently transitioned to Falcon Heavy operations for the June 25
GOES-U launch. I expect all June Falcon 9 Florida launches will depart from SLC-40.
The June
Starlink launches, and the
Astra-1P/
SES-24 launch, should alternate between
ASOG and
JRTI.
Edit May 30:
ASOG droneship is back to sea to support Starlink 6-64.
This was a potential turnaround record of just four hours from docking with F9 from the previous mission to undocking for the next.
Busy times.... nsf.live/spacecoast
[May 30]
I find it interesting that SpaceX chose to go with
Starlink 8-5, skipping
8-4.
Also, I note that SpaceX has not yet started the Florida
Starlink Group 7 launches.
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated May 28 after Starlink 6-60 launch; my bold:
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on May 31 at 6:43-10:43 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the SES-24/Astra 1P communications satellite for SES from pad 40 on mid-June.
If the Astra/SES launch goes on June 10 or 11 of "NET June 10," then Starlink 8-5 and it will be consecutive SLC-40 launches.
This
Starlink launch could be before or after the geocommsat launch, depending on how long after NET June 10 the geocommsat launches.
Other currently scheduled launches that may compete for launch slots.
Near-term not-Starlink launch schedule; also noting LC-39A use:
<snip>
Astra 1P / SES-24 (NET Jun 10, SLC-40)
NROL-69 (NET Jun?, SLC-40)
GSAT-20 / GSAT-N2 (Jun?, SLC-40)
<snip>
Edited through May
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#2
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 01 Jun, 2024 07:16
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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it! I have no idea what Group 10 meant, or if it's even the correct nomenclature.
The 2nd stage re-entry zone is the same as that for Group 8-5 - i.e. going towards a 53° inclination LEO from the Cape.
F1986/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5117S11527E999
A) YMMM
B) 2406080111 C) 2406140340
D) 2406080111 TO 2406080554
2406090048 TO 2406090531
2406100026 TO 2406100509
2406110004 TO 2406110447
2406112341 TO 2406120424
2406122319 TO 2406130402
2406132257 TO 2406140340
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 10-1 WI THE FOLLOWING
AREAS:
49 03S 161 01E
47 11S 158 59E
51 17S 115 27E
39 52S 082 05E
41 36S 080 09E
53 37S 114 28E TO BEGINNING
F) SFC G) UNL
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#3
by
PM3
on 01 Jun, 2024 08:30
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Group 8-5 (
launch thread) launches from SLC-40 on 5 June ~ 00:00 UTC (according to
Ben Cooper). So I assume this one will go from LC-39A due to pad turnaround time ...?
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#4
by
scr00chy
on 01 Jun, 2024 09:01
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Group 8-5 (launch thread) launches from SLC-40 on 5 June ~ 00:00 UTC (according to Ben Cooper). So I assume this one will go from LC-39A due to pad turnaround time ...?
Not necessarily. They've demonstrated a 68-hour turnaround of SLC-40 before.
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#5
by
raptorx2
on 01 Jun, 2024 18:05
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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it! I have no idea what Group 10 meant, or if it's even the correct nomenclature.
Likely a new iteration/Version of Starlink Satellites?
Past Group Versions
Group 1 V1.0 - 53 degrees
Group 2 V1.5 - 70 degrees
Group 3 V1.5 - 96.9 degrees
Group 4 V1.5 53.2 degrees
Group 5 V1.5 43 degrees
Group 6 V2.0Mini 43 degrees
Group 7 V2.0 Mini 53 degrees
Group 8 DTC 53 degrees
Group 9 ?
Group 10 V3.0Mini?? 53 degrees
[Speculation}
See v3.0 Mini? This would likely be the first Starlink satellites designed to provide commercial service for the entire suite of Starlink licensed Services from a unified payload. FSS/DTC/VHF/V Band/E Band along with potentially more LISL's to support "Plug and Plazer" access?
The overall cost to support DtC will be significantly lower if the ~840 payloads are not DtC specific. It's been nearly six months since the first DtC launch on Jan. 2nd. and over a year since a new iteration of Starlink FSS was launched.
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#6
by
jebbo
on 02 Jun, 2024 07:41
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More likely, it is just a shell at a different mean altitude. For 53 degree inclination we already have:
Group 1 550km
Group 4 540km
Group 7 525km
Group 8 535km
With a load of sub-shells at other altitudes.
See
https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html--- Tony
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#7
by
r1279
on 02 Jun, 2024 12:33
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Perhaps 53° 340 km VLEO DTC? [Has VLEO been/expected to be approved yet?]
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#8
by
raptorx2
on 02 Jun, 2024 19:09
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More likely, it is just a shell at a different mean altitude. For 53 degree inclination we already have:
Group 1 550km
Group 4 540km
Group 7 525km
Group 8 535km
With a load of sub-shells at other altitudes.
--- Tony
Gen. 2 satellites are only authorized for 3 shells. 53° @535km, 43° @530km, and 33° @ 535km and three specific altitudes.
SpaceX has requested authority to place Gen. 2 Hardware in Gen. 1 shells, but it is currently not authorized.
SpaceX has also requested authority to deploy Gen. 2 Hardware into VLEO shells. 340, 345, 350, 360km, but it is currently not authorized.
Gen. 2 Hardware Launched into Authorized Gen. 2 shells.
Group-6 43°
Group-7 53°
Group-8 53°
It is believed that Starhip will launch to 33° shell from Boca.
As a reference, here is the historical timeline of the introduction of New Satellite Variants.
Timelines for commercial launch of new Versions of Starlink Satellites.
V0.1 Feb. 22 2018
V0.9 May 24 2019 (V1.0 Production design tests)
V1.0 Nov. 11, 2019 (First Launch)
V1.0 Jan 07, 2020 volume launching V1.0 begins
V1.5 Jun 20, 2021 (First Launch)
V1.5 Nov. 13, 2021 volume launching V1.5 begins
V2.0 Mini Feb. 27 , 2023 (First Launch)
V2.0 Mini July 10 2023 volume launching V2.0 mini begins
DTC Jan. 02, 2024 (First Launch)
DTC Jun. 06, 2024 (Volume launching of DTC begins)
Group 10 V3.0 Mini? NET Jun 8, 2024 (First Launch)
Volume launching of Group 10......
??
So ~538 days between V1.0 and V1.5
~618 days between V1.5 and V2.0 Mini
~466 days between V2.0 mini and a June 8,2024 potential Vxx variant from Group 10
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#9
by
Ken the Bin
on 03 Jun, 2024 12:58
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NGA Rocket Launching notice.
Even though the hazard period is now four hours and 28 minutes instead of four hours and 31 minutes, I suspect that the actual launch window will still be the first four hours.
030920Z JUN 24
NAVAREA IV 635/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
072258Z TO 080326Z JUN, ALTERNATE
082235Z TO 090303Z, 092213Z TO 100241Z,
102151Z TO 110219Z, 112128Z TO 120156Z,
122106Z TO 130134Z AND 132044Z TO 140112Z JUN
IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-38.56N 080-37.37W, 28-54.00N 080-20.00W,
28-48.00N 080-16.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
B. 32-10.00N 076-36.00W, 32-46.00N 076-06.00W,
32-55.00N 075-35.00W, 32-43.00N 075-18.00W,
32-24.00N 075-24.00W, 32-00.00N 076-25.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 140212Z JUN 24.//
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#10
by
Ken the Bin
on 04 Jun, 2024 03:05
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Cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice.
No change to the schedule. Changes to the Location B coordinates.
040131Z JUN 24
NAVAREA IV 641/24(11).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
072258Z TO 080326Z JUN, ALTERNATE
082235Z TO 090303Z, 092213Z TO 100241Z,
102151Z TO 110219Z, 112128Z TO 120156Z,
122106Z TO 130134Z AND 132044Z TO 140112Z JUN
IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-38.56N 080-37.37W, 28-54.00N 080-20.00W,
28-48.00N 080-16.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
B. 32-02.00N 076-52.00W, 33-04.00N 075-53.00W,
33-24.00N 075-03.00W, 33-16.00N 074-50.00W,
32-37.00N 075-04.00W, 31-48.00N 076-35.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 635/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 140212Z JUN 24.
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#11
by
OneSpeed
on 04 Jun, 2024 07:56
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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it!
Cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice.
Maps from the notices. ASDS 618km downrange.
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#12
by
zubenelgenubi
on 04 Jun, 2024 21:33
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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it!
In hindsight, the second stage de-orbit NOTAM coordinates south of Australia imply a northeastern launch trajectory.
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated June 4; my
bold:
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 4 at 10:16 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 7 at 6:58-10:58 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the SES-24/Astra 1P communications satellite for SES from pad 40 on mid-June. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA & NOAA's GOES-U GOES-N weather satellite from pad 39A on June 25 at 5:16-7:16 p.m. EDT. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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#13
by
realnouns
on 06 Jun, 2024 01:09
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Signet Warhorse I + ASOG departed PC on Jun 5 @ 5:25pm ET
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#14
by
zubenelgenubi
on 06 Jun, 2024 14:09
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Which first stage will be used for this launch? (semi-rhetorical question)
Falcon 9 first stages are now apparently cleared for use up to twenty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.
1064.6 and 1065.6 are the Falcon Heavy side boosters for
Europa Clipper. 1072.1 and 1086.1 are assigned as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for
GOES-U.
1073.16 and 1076.15 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are currently available for "single-stick" launches. (I personally wonder if the above will be done.)
B1083 is for Polaris Dawn?
SpaceX Falcon 9 B1083 is set to launch the Starlink 6-56 mission from 39A. [May 8]
["The Phantom Menace" meme]
"We will watch your career with great interest."
Blue seas and blue skies for Falcon 9 landing. [May 8]
Welcome back 1083
Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1069.16 May 6
1083.4 May 8
Polaris Dawn?
1073.16 May 13
1062.22 May 18 (maybe)
Edit June 7: It's B1069.16.
Edited
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#15
by
Ken the Bin
on 06 Jun, 2024 17:20
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L-1 weather forecast. 60% 'Go' for June 7. 80% 'Go' for June 8. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.
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#16
by
Ken the Bin
on 07 Jun, 2024 04:41
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#17
by
Martin_G
on 07 Jun, 2024 12:55
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#18
by
Ken the Bin
on 07 Jun, 2024 16:28
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Primary launch opportunity = 00:00 UTC matching CelesTrak.
Booster = B1069-16.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-10-1SpaceX is targeting Friday, June 7 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. Liftoff is targeted for 8:00 p.m. ET, with backup opportunities available until 10:10 p.m. ET. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Saturday, June 8 starting at 7:47 p.m. ET.
A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about five minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.
This is the 16th flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched CRS-24, Eutelsat HOTBIRD 13F, OneWeb 1, SES-18 and SES-19, and 11 Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.
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#19
by
zubenelgenubi
on 07 Jun, 2024 18:35
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#20
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 07 Jun, 2024 22:03
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#21
by
catdlr
on 07 Jun, 2024 22:36
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#22
by
Ken the Bin
on 07 Jun, 2024 23:20
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SpaceX is now targeting 00:28 UTC.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-10-1SpaceX is targeting Friday, June 7 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. Liftoff is targeted for 8:28 p.m. ET, with backup opportunities available until 10:10 p.m. ET. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Saturday, June 8 starting at 7:47 p.m. ET.
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#23
by
Ken the Bin
on 07 Jun, 2024 23:55
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#24
by
Ken the Bin
on 08 Jun, 2024 01:16
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#25
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 01:27
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#26
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 01:38
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by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 01:59
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#28
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:00
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by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:03
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#30
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:07
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#31
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:08
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#32
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:10
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Summary Video
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#33
by
Perchlorate
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:17
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Thanks for the coverage, Tony!
FINALLY, a northeastbound launch. Great view on NC OBX of Stage 2 from about T+6:15 until SECO-1.
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#34
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:48
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Full Coverage Broadcast Replay in HD from our friends at The Space Devs:
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#35
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:57
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#36
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:58
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#37
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 08 Jun, 2024 04:54
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#38
by
shiro
on 08 Jun, 2024 05:07
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Some reusability stats for this launch (Starlink Group 10-1):
Booster B1069.16 turnaround time:
32 days 7 hours 42 minutes(its previous mission was Starlink Group 6-57 on May 6, 2024 UTC).
FYI: median turnaround time for Falcon 9 / Heavy boosters is currently 34.42 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches, excluding new first stages.
Launchpad SLC-40 turnaround time:
2 days 23 hours 40 minutes(the previous launch from this pad was Starlink Group 8-5 on Jun 5, 2024 UTC).
SpaceX has achieved its second quickest pad turnaround time. The current record was set in April 2024, with only 2 days, 20 hours, and 0 minutes between the launches of Starlink Group 6-48 and Starlink Group 6-49 from SLC-40.
FYI: median turnaround time for SLC-40 is currently 5.08 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches.
The same type of stats for previous SpaceX launches may be found on
this spreadsheet online.
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#39
by
starbase
on 09 Jun, 2024 11:36
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The Starlink Group 10-1 shows 9 brighter satellites and 13 dimmer ones. 🤔
https://twitter.com/pfsmet/status/1799722005820068305Long shot.
@elonmusk, what is special about @SpaceX #starlink Group 10-1? Apart from the lower orbital altitude, why does it contain 9 very bright and 13 rather dim satellites? Especially when compared to to group 8-5 and 8-8, the brightness was very high.
cc @Marco_Langbroek
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#40
by
zubenelgenubi
on 09 Jun, 2024 15:36
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My hypothesis: There is something or somethings different about at least some of the payloads to justify the new Group 10 designation.
CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 10-1 launch from Cape Canaveral on 2024-06-08 at 00:00:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g10-1. Deployment of 22 satellites at 00:52:41.040 UTC. Data for 7 backup launch opportunities also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/. [Jun 7]
Orbit: 266 x 279 km x 53.16 deg
The Starlink Group 10-1 shows 9 brighter satellites and 13 dimmer ones. 🤔
Long shot.
@elonmusk, what is special about @SpaceX #starlink Group 10-1? Apart from the lower orbital altitude, why does it contain 9 very bright and 13 rather dim satellites? Especially when compared to to group 8-5 and 8-8, the brightness was very high. [observed June 8 UTC]
cc @Marco_Langbroek
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#41
by
realnouns
on 09 Jun, 2024 22:08
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Bob returned to PC on Jun 9 @ 5:31pm ET
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#42
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 09 Jun, 2024 22:08
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#43
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 10 Jun, 2024 13:55
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#44
by
realnouns
on 10 Jun, 2024 22:57
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Signet Warhorse I + ASOG + B1069 returned to PC on Jun 10 @ 6:39pm ET
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#45
by
starbase
on 16 Jun, 2024 13:12
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According to an undisclosed source at @SpaceX:
"This is an image captured when half of the train was being send to higher altitude. It’s a lucky shot"
The Starlink Group 10-1 shows 9 brighter satellites and 13 dimmer ones. 🤔
https://twitter.com/pfsmet/status/1799722005820068305
Long shot.
@elonmusk, what is special about @SpaceX #starlink Group 10-1? Apart from the lower orbital altitude, why does it contain 9 very bright and 13 rather dim satellites? Especially when compared to to group 8-5 and 8-8, the brightness was very high.
cc @Marco_Langbroek
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#46
by
gongora
on 16 Jun, 2024 13:58
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All of the satellite names on Space-Track from this flight are similar to the Starlinks in Group 6 and the non-DTC in Group 8, like STARLINK-31xxx and STARLINK-32xxx. The DTC sats in Group 8 are named STARLINK-11xxx.
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