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Thread for the Starlink Group 10-1 launch.

Launch 8 June 2024, at 01:56:00 UTC (9:56 pm EDT), from CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 1069-16.  The first stage successfully landed aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas.

Payload 22 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a northeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 266 x 279 km.

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Starlink 6-64 is scheduled to launch May 31 UTC from SLC-40, likely JRTI first stage recovery.

Starlink 8-5 is scheduled to launch NET June 4 UTC from SLC-40, likely ASOG 1st stage recovery.

LC-39A has apparently transitioned to Falcon Heavy operations for the June 25 GOES-U launch.  I expect all June Falcon 9 Florida launches will depart from SLC-40.

The June Starlink launches, and the Astra-1P/SES-24 launch, should alternate between ASOG and JRTI.

Edit May 30:
Quote from: Gav Cornwall tweet
ASOG droneship is back to sea to support Starlink 6-64.

This was a potential turnaround record of just four hours from docking with F9 from the previous mission to undocking for the next.

Busy times.... nsf.live/spacecoast
[May 30]

I find it interesting that SpaceX chose to go with Starlink 8-5, skipping 8-4.

Also, I note that SpaceX has not yet started the Florida Starlink Group 7 launches.

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated May 28 after Starlink 6-60 launch; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on May 31 at 6:43-10:43 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the SES-24/Astra 1P communications satellite for SES from pad 40 on mid-June.

If the Astra/SES launch goes on June 10 or 11 of "NET June 10," then Starlink 8-5 and it will be consecutive SLC-40 launches.

This Starlink launch could be before or after the geocommsat launch, depending on how long after NET June 10 the geocommsat launches.

Other currently scheduled launches that may compete for launch slots.
Near-term not-Starlink launch schedule; also noting LC-39A use:
<snip>
Astra 1P / SES-24 (NET Jun 10, SLC-40)

NROL-69 (NET Jun?, SLC-40)

GSAT-20 / GSAT-N2 (Jun?, SLC-40)
<snip>
Edited through May
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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it! I have no idea what Group 10 meant, or if it's even the correct nomenclature.

The 2nd stage re-entry zone is the same as that for Group 8-5 - i.e. going towards a 53° inclination LEO from the Cape.

F1986/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5117S11527E999
A) YMMM
B) 2406080111 C) 2406140340
D) 2406080111 TO 2406080554
   2406090048 TO 2406090531
   2406100026 TO 2406100509
   2406110004 TO 2406110447
   2406112341 TO 2406120424
   2406122319 TO 2406130402
   2406132257 TO 2406140340
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 10-1
WI THE FOLLOWING
AREAS:
49 03S 161 01E
47 11S 158 59E
51 17S 115 27E
39 52S 082 05E
41 36S 080 09E
53 37S 114 28E TO BEGINNING
F) SFC G) UNL
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Group 8-5 (launch thread) launches from SLC-40 on 5 June ~ 00:00 UTC (according to Ben Cooper). So I assume this one will go from LC-39A due to pad turnaround time ...?
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Group 8-5 (launch thread) launches from SLC-40 on 5 June ~ 00:00 UTC (according to Ben Cooper). So I assume this one will go from LC-39A due to pad turnaround time ...?

Not necessarily. They've demonstrated a 68-hour turnaround of SLC-40 before.

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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it! I have no idea what Group 10 meant, or if it's even the correct nomenclature.

Likely a new iteration/Version of Starlink Satellites?

Past Group Versions
Group 1 V1.0 - 53 degrees
Group 2 V1.5 - 70 degrees
Group 3 V1.5 - 96.9 degrees
Group 4 V1.5  53.2 degrees
Group 5 V1.5  43 degrees
Group 6 V2.0Mini 43 degrees
Group 7 V2.0 Mini 53 degrees
Group 8 DTC 53 degrees
Group 9 ?
Group 10  V3.0Mini?? 53 degrees


[Speculation}
See v3.0 Mini?  This would likely be the first Starlink satellites designed to provide commercial service for the entire suite of Starlink licensed Services from a unified payload.  FSS/DTC/VHF/V Band/E Band along with potentially more LISL's to support "Plug and Plazer" access? 

The overall cost to support DtC will be significantly lower if the ~840 payloads are not DtC specific.  It's been nearly six months since the first DtC launch on Jan. 2nd. and over a year since a new iteration of Starlink FSS was launched.
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More likely, it is just a shell at a different mean altitude. For 53 degree inclination we already have:

Group 1 550km
Group 4 540km
Group 7 525km
Group 8 535km

With a load of sub-shells at other altitudes.
 
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Perhaps 53° 340 km VLEO DTC?  [Has VLEO been/expected to be approved yet?]
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More likely, it is just a shell at a different mean altitude. For 53 degree inclination we already have:

Group 1 550km
Group 4 540km
Group 7 525km
Group 8 535km

With a load of sub-shells at other altitudes.
 
--- Tony

Gen. 2 satellites are only authorized for 3 shells.  53° @535km, 43° @530km, and 33° @ 535km and three specific altitudes.
SpaceX has requested authority to place Gen. 2 Hardware in Gen. 1 shells, but it is currently not authorized.
SpaceX has also requested authority to deploy Gen. 2 Hardware into VLEO shells.  340, 345, 350, 360km, but it is currently not authorized.


Gen. 2 Hardware Launched into Authorized Gen. 2 shells.
Group-6 43°
Group-7 53°
Group-8 53°
It is believed that Starhip will launch to 33° shell from Boca.

As a reference, here is the historical timeline of the introduction of New Satellite Variants.

Timelines for commercial launch of new Versions of Starlink Satellites.

V0.1  Feb. 22 2018

V0.9 May 24 2019 (V1.0 Production design tests)
V1.0 Nov. 11, 2019 (First Launch)
V1.0 Jan 07, 2020 volume launching V1.0 begins

V1.5 Jun 20, 2021 (First Launch)
V1.5 Nov. 13, 2021 volume launching V1.5 begins

V2.0 Mini Feb. 27 , 2023 (First Launch)
V2.0 Mini July 10 2023 volume launching V2.0 mini begins

DTC Jan. 02, 2024 (First Launch)
DTC Jun. 06, 2024 (Volume launching of DTC begins)

Group 10 V3.0 Mini? NET Jun 8, 2024 (First Launch)
Volume launching of Group 10......  ?????

So ~538 days between V1.0 and V1.5
~618 days between V1.5 and V2.0 Mini
~466 days between V2.0 mini and a June 8,2024 potential Vxx  variant from Group 10

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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Even though the hazard period is now four hours and 28 minutes instead of four hours and 31 minutes, I suspect that the actual launch window will still be the first four hours.

Quote from: NGA
030920Z JUN 24
NAVAREA IV 635/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   072258Z TO 080326Z JUN, ALTERNATE
   082235Z TO 090303Z, 092213Z TO 100241Z,
   102151Z TO 110219Z, 112128Z TO 120156Z,
   122106Z TO 130134Z AND 132044Z TO 140112Z JUN
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.56N 080-37.37W, 28-54.00N 080-20.00W,
      28-48.00N 080-16.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
      28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
   B. 32-10.00N 076-36.00W, 32-46.00N 076-06.00W,
      32-55.00N 075-35.00W, 32-43.00N 075-18.00W,
      32-24.00N 075-24.00W, 32-00.00N 076-25.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 140212Z JUN 24.//

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Cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice.

No change to the schedule. Changes to the Location B coordinates.

Quote from: NGA
040131Z JUN 24
NAVAREA IV 641/24(11).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   072258Z TO 080326Z JUN, ALTERNATE
   082235Z TO 090303Z, 092213Z TO 100241Z,
   102151Z TO 110219Z, 112128Z TO 120156Z,
   122106Z TO 130134Z AND 132044Z TO 140112Z JUN
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.56N 080-37.37W, 28-54.00N 080-20.00W,
      28-48.00N 080-16.00W, 28-35.00N 080-26.00W,
      28-31.63N 080-33.58W.
   B. 32-02.00N 076-52.00W, 33-04.00N 075-53.00W,
      33-24.00N 075-03.00W, 33-16.00N 074-50.00W,
      32-37.00N 075-04.00W, 31-48.00N 076-35.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 635/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 140212Z JUN 24.

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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it!

Cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Maps from the notices. ASDS 618km downrange.

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We have one NOTAM out regarding this one after Group 8-5...and things got even more confusing because this one is named Group 10-1 (!!!!!) in it!
In hindsight, the second stage de-orbit NOTAM coordinates south of Australia imply a northeastern launch trajectory.



Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated June 4; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 4 at 10:16 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 7 at 6:58-10:58 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the SES-24/Astra 1P communications satellite for SES from pad 40 on mid-June. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA & NOAA's GOES-U GOES-N weather satellite from pad 39A on June 25 at 5:16-7:16 p.m. EDT. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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Which first stage will be used for this launch? (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are now apparently cleared for use up to twenty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.

1064.6 and 1065.6 are the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Europa Clipper.  1072.1 and 1086.1 are assigned as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for GOES-U.

1073.16 and 1076.15 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are currently available for "single-stick" launches.  (I personally wonder if the above will be done.)

B1083 is for Polaris Dawn?
Quote from: Chris Bergin tweet
SpaceX Falcon 9 B1083 is set to launch the Starlink 6-56 mission from 39A. [May 8]
Quote from: Jared Isaacman tweet
["The Phantom Menace" meme]
"We will watch your career with great interest."

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Blue seas and blue skies for Falcon 9 landing. [May 8]
Quote from: Jared Isaacman tweet
Welcome back 1083

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1069.16  May 6
1083.4    May 8    Polaris Dawn?
1073.16  May 13
1062.22  May 18 (maybe)

Edit June 7: It's B1069.16.

Edited
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L-1 weather forecast. 60% 'Go' for June 7. 80% 'Go' for June 8. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.

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Primary launch opportunity = 2024-06-08 00:00:00 UTC per CelesTrak.

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1798935903282622616

Quote from: T.S. Kelso
CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 10-1 launch from Cape Canaveral on 2024-06-08 at 00:00:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g10-1. Deployment of 22 satellites at 00:52:41.040 UTC. Data for 7 backup launch opportunities also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Launch: 2024-06-08 00:00:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 00:52:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 00:14:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 01:06:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 00:28:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 01:20:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 01:02:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 01:54:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 01:32:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 02:24:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 01:42:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 02:34:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 01:56:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 02:48:41.040 UTC.
Launch: 2024-06-08 02:10:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-06-08 03:02:41.040 UTC.

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https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp:

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SPACEX STARLINK 10-1, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY: 06/07/24   2213Z-0319Z
BACKUP: 06/08/24   2235Z-0303Z
   06/09/24   2213Z-0241Z
   06/10/24   2151Z-0219Z

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Primary launch opportunity = 00:00 UTC matching CelesTrak.
Booster = B1069-16.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-10-1

Quote from: SpaceX
SpaceX is targeting Friday, June 7 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. Liftoff is targeted for 8:00 p.m. ET, with backup opportunities available until 10:10 p.m. ET. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Saturday, June 8 starting at 7:47 p.m. ET.

A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about five minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the 16th flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched CRS-24, Eutelsat HOTBIRD 13F, OneWeb 1, SES-18 and SES-19, and 11 Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1799112824733708665
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Targeting tonight for a Falcon 9 launch 22 of @Starlink satellites to orbit from pad 40 in Florida → http://spacex.com/launches

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-10-1
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SpaceX is targeting Friday, June 7 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. <snip>

No V2 Mini Direct-to-Cell satellites, apparently.
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