SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 8-5 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 4/5 June 2024 (02:16 UTC)

[zubenelgenubi]

Thread for the Starlink 8-5 group launch.

Launch 5 June 2024, at 02:16:00 UTC (4 June 10:16 pm EDT), from CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 1067-20.  The first stage successfully landed aboard Just Read the Instructions.

Payload 13 Direct-to-Cell and 7 Starlink V2 Mini satellites (total 20) to 53 degree inclination orbit on a northeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 273 x 286 km.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

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[zubenelgenubi]

Starlink 6-60 launch May 28 UTC from SLC-40, ASOG 1st stage recovery

Starlink 6-64 likely will launch May 31 UTC from SLC-40, likely JRTI first stage recovery

Starlink 6-6X likely will launch NET June 4 UTC from SLC-40, likely ASOG 1st stage recovery

I think LC-39A is, or will soon be, transitioning to Falcon Heavy operations.

I expect [Starlink 6-64] launch, and all other Falcon 9 Florida June launches, will depart from SLC-40.

The June Starlink launches should alternate between ASOG and JRTI.

What remains to be revealed is when the Florida Starlink Group 7 and Group 8 launches will begin.

Edit May 28: I find it interesting that SpaceX chose to go with Starlink 8-5, skipping 8-4.

Also, noting that SpaceX has not yet started the Florida Starlink Group 7 launches.

Edited

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Well the next Starlink launch has been filed and...it's Group 8-5, previous filed at the FCC to launch from the Cape.

F1956/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5249S12008E999
A) YMMM
B) 2406040240 C) 2406100509
D) 2406040240 TO 2406040626
   2406050217 TO 2406050626
   2406060155 TO 2406060626
   2406070133 TO 2406070616
   2406080111 TO 2406080554
   2406090048 TO 2406090531
   2406100026 TO 2406100509
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 8-5 WI THE FOLLOWING
AREAS:
4903S 16101E
4711S 15859E
5117S 11527E
3952S 08205E
4136S 08009E
5337S 11428E TO BEGINNING
F) SFC G) UNL

[OneSpeed]

Well the next Starlink launch has been filed and...it's Group 8-5, previous filed at the FCC to launch from the Cape.

Map from the NOTAM. Looks like a 53° orbital inclination rather than 43°.

[zubenelgenubi]

Cross-posts:

Five Starlinks from Florida using the new landing area...
<snip>
0300-EX-ST-2024  Mission 2110 Starlink Group 8-5/Exuma trajectory

ASDS position:
North  24  29  51   West  76  25  36

and SpaceX being SpaceX...
<snip>
0308-EX-ST-2024  Mission 2110 Starlink Group 8-5/Northbound Trajectory

ASDS position:
North  32  29  0   West  76  0  28

Well the next Starlink launch has been filed and...it's Group 8-5, previous filed at the FCC to launch from the Cape.

Map from the NOTAM. Looks like a 53° orbital inclination rather than 43°.

Launch to the northeast would place the orbit's southernmost latitude south of Australia.

[zubenelgenubi]

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide; updated May 28 after Starlink 6-60 launch; my bold:

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on May 31 at 6:43-10:43 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the SES-24/Astra 1P communications satellite for SES from pad 40 on mid-June.

If the Astra/SES launch goes on June 10 or 11 of "NET June 10," then Starlink 8-5 and it will be consecutive SLC-40 launches.


Which first stage will be used for this launch? (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are now apparently cleared for use up to twenty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.

1064.6 and 1065.6 are the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Europa Clipper.  1072.1 and 1086.1 are assigned as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for GOES-U.

1073.16 and 1076.14 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are currently available for "single-stick" launches.  (I personally wonder if the above will be done.)

B1083 is for Polaris Dawn?

SpaceX Falcon 9 B1083 is set to launch the Starlink 6-56 mission from 39A. [May 8]

["The Phantom Menace" meme]
"We will watch your career with great interest."

Blue seas and blue skies for Falcon 9 landing. [May 8]

Welcome back 1083

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1076.14  Apr 28   Starlink 6-64
1067.20  May 3
1069.16  May 6
1083.4    May 8    Polaris Dawn?
1073.16  May 13

Edit June 4: It's B1067.20.

Edited

[GewoonLukas_]

Delayed by 24 hours per this NOTAM:

F1966/24 NOTAMR F1956/24
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5249S12008E999
A) YMMM
B) 2406050217 C) 2406100509
D) 2406050217 TO 2406050626
   2406060155 TO 2406060626
   2406070133 TO 2406070616
   2406080111 TO 2406080554
   2406090048 TO 2406090531
   2406100026 TO 2406100509
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 8-5 WI THE FOLLOWING
AREAS:
4903S 16101E
4711S 15859E
5117S 11527E
3952S 08205E
4136S 08009E
5337S 11428E TO BEGINNING
F) SFC G) UNL

[Comga]

Delayed by 24 hours per this NOTAM:

F1966/24 NOTAMR F1956/24
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5249S12008E999
A) YMMM
B) 2406050217 C) 2406100509
D) 2406050217 TO 2406050626
   2406060155 TO 2406060626
   2406070133 TO 2406070616
   2406080111 TO 2406080554
   2406090048 TO 2406090531
   2406100026 TO 2406100509
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 8-5 WI THE FOLLOWING
AREAS:
4903S 16101E
4711S 15859E
5117S 11527E
3952S 08205E
4136S 08009E
5337S 11428E TO BEGINNING
F) SFC G) UNL

Could you please help out those of us who struggle to translate the bare-bones compact format to common time?

I see “D) 2406050217 TO 2406050626”
and think: 2024 June 5 2:17 UTC to 6:26 UTC
Is my reading correct?
Wouldn't that be an over 26 hr delay?
That’s really “one day” but not “24 hrs”
(Yes, my engineering training and German heritage are showing but numbers are either correct or incorrect.)

If you are facile with these, could you and our other knowledgeable contributors please just include the common time label in your posts?
Thank you

[GewoonLukas_]

Could you please help out those of us who struggle to translate the bare-bones compact format to common time?

I see “D) 2406050217 TO 2406050626”
and think: 2024 June 5 2:17 UTC to 6:26 UTC
Is my reading correct?

Yes, your reading is correct

Wouldn't that be an over 26 hr delay?

No. This NOTAM is for the reentry of the second stage, which doesn't start until after lift-off. There are people who know how to extrapolate the approximate launchtime using that information, but I'm not one of them.

If you are facile with these, could you and our other knowledgeable contributors please just include the common time label in your posts?
Thank you

I'll try to keep that in mind

[JPSwartz1]

I’ll be close to Exuma next week.   At one time 8-5 was going to be the first exuma landing if I’m not mistaken.   Can anyone confirm if that’s still happening?   I see something about NE trajectory now

[Ken the Bin]

NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Note that this notice does not have the four hours and 31 minutes hazard period that has been standard for Starlink launches for quite a while, so a four-hour launch window is not implied.

There are no multi-launch Space Debris notices in effect for this launch.

010440Z JUN 24
NAVAREA IV 630/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   050004Z TO 050358Z JUN, ALTERNATE 
   052342Z TO 060358Z, 062320Z TO 070348Z, 
   072258Z TO 080326Z, 082235Z TO 090303Z AND 
   092213Z TO 100241Z JUN IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.02N 080-37.70W, 28-52.00N 080-21.00W,
      28-48.00N 080-15.00W, 28-37.00N 080-22.00W,
      28-32.11N 080-33.73W.
   B. 32-13.00N 076-41.00W, 33-04.00N 075-53.00W,
      33-24.00N 075-03.00W, 33-16.00N 074-50.00W,
      32-37.00N 075-04.00W, 31-58.00N 076-17.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 100341Z JUN 24.

[OneSpeed]

NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Map from the NGA notice. ASDS 618km downrange.

[Martin_G]

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp:

SPACE-X STARLINK 8-5 CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:   6/5/24         0004Z-0358Z
BACKUP:      6/5/24         2342Z-0358Z
      6/6/24         2320Z-0348Z
      6/7/24         2258Z-0326Z
      6/8/24         2235Z-0303Z
      6/9/24         2213Z-0241Z

[Ken the Bin]

Somebody at Patrick must have been bored.

L-2 weather forecast. 90% 'Go' for both June 4/5 (00:04 UTC) and June 5 (23:42 UTC). All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.

[realnouns]

Signet Warhorse III + JRTI departed PC on Jun 2 @ 1:35pm ET

[realnouns]

Bob departed PC on Jun 2 @ 8:40pm ET

[Ken the Bin]

A new NGA Rocket Launching notice with some changes to the Location B coordinates. I'm pretty sure this should have been a cancel-and-replace, but it isn't, so both notices will be in effect.

031737Z JUN 24
NAVAREA IV 636/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   050004Z TO 050358Z JUN, ALTERNATE
   052342Z TO 060358Z, 062320Z TO 070348Z
   072258Z TO 080326Z, 082235Z TO 090303Z, AND 
   092213Z TO 100241Z JUN IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.02N 080-37.70W, 28-52.00N 080-21.00W,
      28-48.00N 080-15.00W, 28-37.00N 080-22.00W,
      28-32.11N 080-33.73W.
   B. 32-02.00N 076-52.00W, 33-04.00N 075-53.00W,
      33-24.00N 075-03.00W, 33-16.00N 074-50.00W,
      32-37.00N 075-04.00W, 31-48.00N 076-35.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 100341Z JUN 24.

[Ken the Bin]

L-1 weather forecast. 90% 'Go' for June 4/5 (00:04 UTC). 80%->90% 'Go' for June 5 (23:42 UTC). All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.

[OneSpeed]

A new NGA Rocket Launching notice with some changes to the Location B coordinates. I'm pretty sure this should have been a cancel-and-replace, but it isn't, so both notices will be in effect.

They've extended area B. about 30km uprange. Agree it should be cancel-and-replace.

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Looks like this one has a big slip way before launch day operations again... (still no official launch confirmation)

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1798029154623058342

CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 8-5 launch from Cape Canaveral on 2024-06-05 at 02:16:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g8-5. Deployment of 20 satellites at 03:07:43.820 UTC.

= 10:16 pm EDT June 4th.