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#500
by
rdale
on 07 Jun, 2024 19:55
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No joy - the food had to be removed so they could add the extra cargo.
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#501
by
Targeteer
on 07 Jun, 2024 20:08
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No joy - the food had to be removed so they could add the extra cargo.
So now Boeing challenge coins are higher priority than food for the crew. It also means the story about only 2 containers of clothes being removed was not accurate...
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#502
by
yg1968
on 07 Jun, 2024 21:09
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I know it's annoying - but here I have to remind that with Starship there WILL be a next flight so a total success is certainly possible.
It's different with Starliner. The spacecraft is tied to an obsolete rocket with engines that were previously purchased from an enemy country that's no longer available as a supplier. There are no plans to replace that rocket. There are currently no funds to replace that rocket.
And while Starship has many prototypes in hangar waiting to be launched, the question about Starliner stands: what happens then the supply of (currently six) Atlas V rockets is depleted?
Yes, you are
Vulcan is the replacement for Altas V
Rocket is not the problem. the issue is Boeing; if they want continue the program past 6. Vulcan was sized to that Starliner could fly on it and still use the SLC-41 crew tower.
The issue is most likely funding. Unless Boeing funds it themselves (which seem unlikely), certifying a new commercial crew system with Vulcan would require NASA funding it as part of phase 2 of the Commercial LEO Destinations program. Starliner is part of Orbital Reef, so presumably, Blue Origin will ask for funding for certification of Starliner on a Vulcan.
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#503
by
Tomness
on 07 Jun, 2024 21:21
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The ISS crew is currently searching for the food sent up in advance for Sunny and Butch...
Damn, somebody probably already ate Butch's Little Debbie's Cherry Pies he had them stash in Cygnus lol.
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#504
by
matthewkantar
on 08 Jun, 2024 00:50
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No joy - the food had to be removed so they could add the extra cargo.
So now Boeing challenge coins are higher priority than food for the crew. It also means the story about only 2 containers of clothes being removed was not accurate...
It is with some trepidation I ask: What are Boeing challenge coins?
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#505
by
catdlr
on 08 Jun, 2024 01:17
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#506
by
rdale
on 08 Jun, 2024 01:49
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It was a joke. They had to add some cargo for the ISS repair.
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#507
by
Targeteer
on 08 Jun, 2024 02:21
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No joy - the food had to be removed so they could add the extra cargo.
So now Boeing challenge coins are higher priority than food for the crew. It also means the story about only 2 containers of clothes being removed was not accurate...
It is with some trepidation I ask: What are Boeing challenge coins?
Here are the "essential" items being packed for Starliner that didn't get removed to accommodate the UPA pump. The Jun 1 launch attempt video starts talking about cargo at 2:38:00 here
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#508
by
ulm_atms
on 08 Jun, 2024 03:23
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SPACE.com reports that another leak developed after the docking. https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-astronaut-test-flight-thrusters-helium-leaks
So far there is one thing that is really bugging me about this test. If you read the quoted article, multiple times it says they are running into some of the same issues as they did in tje uncrewed test flights. The thruster issues were present in the uncrewed test flight. The water usage issue was apparently also a shuttle issue for 30 years.
I just don't like that they keep having the same issues. One thing about SpaceX is that they never seem to have the same problem multiple times. If they encounter one, they fix it right and don't encounter it again. Seeing Boeing find a problem, and then seeing the same problem again just waves red flags for me and makes me have to ask a simple question. Why can't they fix it?
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#509
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 10:03
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#510
by
Vettedrmr
on 08 Jun, 2024 11:27
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SPACE.com reports that another leak developed after the docking. https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-astronaut-test-flight-thrusters-helium-leaks
So far there is one thing that is really bugging me about this test. If you read the quoted article, multiple times it says they are running into some of the same issues as they did in tje uncrewed test flights. The thruster issues were present in the uncrewed test flight. The water usage issue was apparently also a shuttle issue for 30 years.
I just don't like that they keep having the same issues. One thing about SpaceX is that they never seem to have the same problem multiple times. If they encounter one, they fix it right and don't encounter it again. Seeing Boeing find a problem, and then seeing the same problem again just waves red flags for me and makes me have to ask a simple question. Why can't they fix it?
I'm with you on the thruster problems. Especially if it's a software threshold issue, seems like that would have been quite easily corrected. In fact, I thought they *did* correct it with a software update from the ground. That's how they got the 4 thrusters back on line.
As to the water issue: I thought the primary problem with water on STS was *too much* water due to running the fuel cells more than expected. I did a quick look on-line but couldn't find anything.
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#511
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 12:56
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#512
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 13:02
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The Suni's "traditional" socks!
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#513
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 13:17
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The control panel (and tablet),the hand controller, the window (but it's dark outside at the moment).
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#514
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 13:18
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Orange emergency equipment bag (in case of fire, depress Ammonia event,...)
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#515
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 13:19
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It's Saturday and it's time to use Vacum cleaner
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#516
by
centaurinasa
on 08 Jun, 2024 13:20
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#517
by
Targeteer
on 08 Jun, 2024 14:18
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Sunny and Butch conducted the safe haven test this morning and during the test the primary power feed from ISS to Starliner tripped/turned off while Butch was activating the onboard batteries. Hours after the test ended, MCC was still asking Butch for details on what he was doing and saw because the ground still can't determine what happened and why. Starliner is currently experiencing random/uncommanded comm control unit swaps causing comm outages. It happened this morning when Butch woke up and neither he nor the ground realized something was wrong while they tried to call each other in vain.
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#518
by
Vettedrmr
on 08 Jun, 2024 15:02
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I wonder what it is between ISS and new spacecraft that cause so many comm problems. IIRC Crew Dragon had these same kind of issues on DM-2.
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#519
by
Ken the Bin
on 09 Jun, 2024 04:07
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NGA Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas), for SM reentry I believe.
090235Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 411/24(GEN).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
ALASKA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS:
A. 141258Z TO 141359Z JUN, ALTERNATE
181123Z TO 181224Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
21-16.00N 122-22.00W, 18-25.00N 118-33.00W,
05-04.00S 136-09.00W, 02-22.00S 139-54.00W.
B. 152018Z TO 152119Z JUN, ALTERNATE
191911Z TO 192012Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
49-12.00N 132-49.00W, 47-00.00N 134-15.00W,
50-41.00N 170-48.00W, 52-03.00N 170-59.00W,
53-10.00N 166-40.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 192112Z JUN 24.
090235Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 1992/24(GEN).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
ALASKA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS:
A. 141258Z TO 141359Z JUN, ALTERNATE
181123Z TO 181224Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
21-16.00N 122-22.00W, 18-25.00N 118-33.00W,
05-04.00S 136-09.00W, 02-22.00S 139-54.00W.
B. 152018Z TO 152119Z JUN, ALTERNATE
191911Z TO 192012Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
49-12.00N 132-49.00W, 47-00.00N 134-15.00W,
50-41.00N 170-48.00W, 52-03.00N 170-59.00W,
53-10.00N 166-40.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 192112Z JUN 24.
