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#360
by
centaurinasa
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:38
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#361
by
centaurinasa
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:41
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#362
by
centaurinasa
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:43
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#363
by
SoftwareDude
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:47
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Incredible to be able to listen to this live.
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#364
by
Yellowstone10
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:49
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Ground gave Butch the go-ahead to proceed with the manual piloting demo, but as he's been piloting manually to station-keep during these thruster hot-fire tests, he advised Ground that he considers that demo complete.
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#365
by
eeergo
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:50
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Starliner just can't seem to keep it together. Very disappointing.
Two of the three flagged thrusters were fine, just had conservative limits surpassed and were inhibited automatically. A quick hot fire test just cleared them. All in all it turned out 1/28th of the thrusters had to be disabled, and it took a grand total of 10 minutes to troubleshoot the issue and continue with the manual piloting demo, which was kind of done throughout the stationkeeping they were performing for the RCS troubleshooting anyway.
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#366
by
catdlr
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:51
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"HAL...Open the Pod bay door"
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#367
by
SoftwareDude
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:51
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#368
by
Lee Jay
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:54
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Zero fault tolerant for 6 degree of freedom control. Going to fly to 200m and station keep anyway.
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#369
by
centaurinasa
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:57
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A5/Starliner CFT: Four jets apparently were deselected earlier because of suspect readings; two of them operated normally during the hot fire tests and are now considered useable as needed; flight controllers are still assessing the other two; Wilmore and Williams were cleared to press ahead with a manual flying demo before docking, but the commander said his manual operation of the Starliner while the hot fire tests were being conducted was sufficient to meet the goals of the manual demo
https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798744048515326105
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#370
by
Ken the Bin
on 06 Jun, 2024 15:58
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Updated SM disposal marine hazard notice for Starliner return, in the USCG District 17 weekly Local Notice to Mariners that came out today.
ALASKA – NORTH PACIFIC
The Boeing CST-100 CFT Spacecraft Mission is scheduled to land at the White Sands Space Harbor or the White Sands Missile Range at 1339 UTC on June 14th, 2024. The reentry into the atmosphere will create debris that may present a hazard to vessels in the Pacific Ocean in the following areas during the time windows indicated.
First Service Module Reentry Opportunity:
Hazardous Operation: 141258-141359 UTC which is 0458-0559 Alaska Time on June 14th, 2024
Geographic Region: Southeastern Pacific & South Pacific
Hazard Area Bounds: POINT 1: 21°16’N, 122°22’W
POINT 2: 18°25’N, 118°33’W
POINT 3: 05°04’S, 136°09’W
POINT 4: 02°22’S, 139°54’W
Second Service Module Reentry Opportunity:
Hazardous Operation: 152018-152119 UTC which is 1218-1319 Alaska Time on June 15th, 2024
Geographic Region: North Eastern Pacific and North Pacific
Hazard Area Bounds: POINT 1: 49°12’N, 132°49’W
POINT 2: 47°00’N, 134°15’W
POINT 3: 50°41’N, 170°48’W
POINT 4: 52°03’N, 170°59’W
POINT 5: 53°10’N, 166°40’W
Third Service Module Reentry Opportunity:
Hazardous Operation: 181123-181224 UTC which is 0323-0424 Alaska Time on June 18th, 2024
Geographic Region: Southeastern Pacific & South Pacific
Hazard Area Bounds: POINT 1: 21°16’N, 122°22’W
POINT 2: 18°25’N, 118°33’W
POINT 3: 05°04’S, 136°09’W
POINT 4: 02°22’S, 139°54’W
Fourth Service Module Reentry Opportunity:
Hazardous Operation: 191911-192012Z UTC which is 1111-1212 Alaska Time on June 19th, 2024
Geographic Region: North Eastern Pacific and North Pacific
Hazard Area Bounds: POINT 1: 49°12’N, 132°49’W
POINT 2: 47°00’N, 134°15’W
POINT 3: 50°41’N, 170°48’W
POINT 4: 52°03’N, 170°59’W
POINT 5: 53°10’N, 166°40’W
Mariners are requested to remail clear of the hazard areas during these reentry windows. Direct questions/concerns to Matt Dulski at 281-483-9112 or by email to [email protected] or Ashley Tarpley at (346) 578-2369 or by email to [email protected].
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#371
by
centaurinasa
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:07
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A5/Starliner CFT: Mission control has told the crew to hold off on entering the 200-meter-wide "keep out sphere," a protective zone around the space station; in a call to the crew, the CAPCOM said "here's the deal right now. We are zero fault tolerant for (not understandable) control, so we cannot technically get into the keep out sphere. However, we would like you to go ahead and fly us in to 200 meters and stationkeep at 200 meters under manual" while controllers continue their analysis
https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798747671739683312
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#372
by
Yellowstone10
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:11
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CAPCOM advises that they "lost the first docking window" and are still reviewing thruster data. Commentator mentions that the second window opens at 12:33 pm US/Central.
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#373
by
niwax
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:11
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First docking window missed, they'll be going for the next one.
Is this a good time to mention the helium leak they intentionally launched with because they can close that system off while docked and only need to survive a few hours free flying?
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#374
by
centaurinasa
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:11
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Next Docking window: open at 16:33 UTC and close at 17:19 UTC.
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#375
by
gaballard
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:12
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If Suni is the pilot, why is Butch doing the manual piloting?
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#376
by
Lee Jay
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:14
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A5/Starliner CFT: Mission control has told the crew to hold off on entering the 200-meter-wide "keep out sphere," a protective zone around the space station; in a call to the crew, the CAPCOM said "here's the deal right now. We are zero fault tolerant for (not understandable) control, so we cannot technically get into the keep out sphere. However, we would like you to go ahead and fly us in to 200 meters and stationkeep at 200 meters under manual" while controllers continue their analysis
https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798747671739683312
"(not understandable)" was "6 DOF" meaning "6 degree of freedom", which means controlling the ability to move in three directions and rotate in three directions.
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#377
by
AS-503
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:18
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If Suni is the pilot, why is Butch doing the manual piloting?
This is true of Apollo and Shuttle, the commander flies the vehicle and the "pilot" provides readouts and states to ease the burden of the commander flying the mission.
For example if you listen to the audio of the Apollo 11 landing you will hear Aldrin making callouts while Armstrong is manually flying the landing.
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#378
by
Yellowstone10
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:18
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idle thought - currently wishing we had one of those engine on/off diagrams from this morning's Starship broadcast, but for Starliner thrusters...
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#379
by
Yellowstone10
on 06 Jun, 2024 16:26
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Fault-tolerant 6DOF control has been restored, which allows them to press on inside the keep-out-sphere. They will do additional hot-fire tests on B1A3, T2A2 and S1A1 jets while waiting for the next opportunity to begin the approach (in about 15 minutes).