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#200
by
ugordan
on 05 Jun, 2024 16:41
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Post launch press conf: Nelson starts off strong with a statement that the first time a human was launched into orbit on an American rocket was on an Atlas V.
There are times I miss Bridenstine.
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#201
by
wings_no_capsules
on 05 Jun, 2024 16:41
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So happy they are in a stable LEO. ISS needs that pee recycler!
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#202
by
wholmeswa
on 05 Jun, 2024 16:43
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Congratulations to all involved. It has taken a while, but good to see crewed Starliner safely make it to space. Looking forward to ISS ops.
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#203
by
abaddon
on 05 Jun, 2024 16:57
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Post launch press conf: Nelson starts off strong with a statement that the first time a human was launched into orbit on an American rocket was on an Atlas V.
There are times I miss Bridenstine.
Well, it
was an Atlas, who's counting? /s
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#204
by
cplchanb
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:41
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NASA TV broadcast notes that, although there are "a handful of cameras" onboard, Boeing isn't able to relay video until the capsule reaches the ISS.
So this is the most we'll see of Starliner for the next 25 hours: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/05/boeing-starliner-crew-launch.html
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1798401228927586611
I asked in the press conference but didn't get an explanation for why there isn't any live, or even delayed, video from Starliner post-launch.
Boeing VP Mark Nappi: "We are looking at being able to provide live feed inflight but that won't be for a couple of flights."
conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day on this.
in all honesty though a camera is such a common easy and essential piece of equipment to include in the spacecraft, one has to wonder why Boeing overlooked this.
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#205
by
Yellowstone10
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:44
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in all honesty though a camera is such a common easy and essential piece of equipment to include in the spacecraft, one has to wonder why Boeing overlooked this.
There are cameras in the spacecraft - note the cabin views we were getting prior to launch. They're just not configured to send that video feed over the space-to-ground network.
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#206
by
AS-503
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:44
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Post launch press conf: Nelson starts off strong with a statement that the first time a human was launched into orbit on an American rocket was on an Atlas V.
There are times I miss Bridenstine.
Well, it was an Atlas, who's counting? /s
Interestingly both Atlas' in this case needed structural/aero mod.s in order to fly capsules.
Mercury Atlas: Belly-Band
Starliner Atlas: Aeroskirt (4)
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#207
by
Yellowstone10
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:46
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Crew is getting ready to begin far-field manual piloting checkouts. There was supposed to be a crew PAO event prior to that, but they need to do the checkouts in the current daylight lighting conditions.
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#208
by
punder
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:49
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Love that old-school artificial horizon!
Congrats to NASA/Boeing/ULA. Good luck to Butch & Suni for a "boring" flight up and back.
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#209
by
cpushack
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:50
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Just like for a very important crew mission, we still get ...animations...rather then any real video from the stage or capsule.
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#210
by
Yellowstone10
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:52
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Another view we're getting in lieu of live cabin shots - here's the Starliner MCC room in Houston.
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#211
by
ugordan
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:57
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conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day on this.
in all honesty though a camera is such a common easy and essential piece of equipment to include in the spacecraft, one has to wonder why Boeing overlooked this.
Because this is at all not about cameras, it's about telemetry links and bandwidth to the ground. You can place a smartphone camera onboard, but if you don't have bandwidth available to transmit that video down to ground, you might as well have carried a paper-weight.
Now, I could go on and on and shi* on Boeing people for not allowing for at least TDRS video, or whatever, but that's besides the point. Starliner went with their decision way back when and it'll take a while to retrofit live video capability, should they ever even choose to do so.
Not even Crew Dragon has bandwidth to stream live video all the time, it's up to the available ground stations.
(and please, don't even start with Starlink, because that's obviously an option Boeing isn't taking)
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#212
by
Yellowstone10
on 05 Jun, 2024 17:59
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First test - point the tail to space and switch to manual antenna selection, simulating procedures for regaining communications following an off-nominal attitude.
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#213
by
ugordan
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:01
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Just like for a very important crew mission, we still get ...animations...rather then any real video from the stage or capsule.
Personally, I prefer the telemetry-driven data display after separation instead of a video looking out, but your mileage may vary. So much stuff in there that I'd have to go back and rewatch and rewatch and rewatch again.
If all you have is live video from the capsule, all you can really say is, "that's a nice-looking zero-g indicator".
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#214
by
saturnsky
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:04
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Really like the open flow of info from ULA and Boeing,,too bad Space X not so open with launch comm and countdown coverage...Go Starliner, Boeing, and definitely Butch and Sunny...
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#215
by
eeergo
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:04
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Apparently the reason for the camera views has to do with RF compatibility with the LV. Doesn't fully explain the lack of video after separation, but I guess a possible explanation is that some antennas to be included in the future are missing because of that.
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#216
by
SoftwareDude
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:20
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Really like the open flow of info from ULA and Boeing,,too bad Space X not so open with launch comm and countdown coverage...Go Starliner, Boeing, and definitely Butch and Sunny...
I wasn't a big fan of the animated rocket, but I loved the data, especially the control panel with the artificial horizon.
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#217
by
Targeteer
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:22
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the orbit displays in Houston show a slight orbit offset between ISS and Starliner. They are in the same orbital plane so shouldn't they overlap?
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#218
by
centaurinasa
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:29
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SIGI "Space Integrated GPS/Inertial Navigation System" test in progress.
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#219
by
lcs
on 05 Jun, 2024 18:30
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Another view we're getting in lieu of live cabin shots - here's the Starliner MCC room in Houston.
First time since Jul 2011 that we've been here with an all NASA manned spacecraft (or 1975 for Apollo CSM). But even Apollo 7 had live TV through VHF. Looks like the engineers won this time.