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Thread for the Starlink Group 7-16 launch.

Launch 19 March 2024, at 02:28:00 UTC (18 Mar. 7:28 pm PDT), from Vandenberg SFB SLC-4E, on booster 1075-10.  The first stage successfully landed aboard Of Course I Still Love You.

Payload 20 Starlink V2 Mini satellites and 2 Starshield satellites (USA 350/351) to 53 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 306 x 316 km.

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2537-EX-ST-2023 Mission 2198 Starlink Group 7-16

NET February [10] from Vandenberg
ASDS  North  30  6  19   West  116  57  37  (7-14, 7-16)
          North  29  52  50   West  116  45  3  (7-15, 7-17)

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7472
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Starlink Group 7-16
Launch Time
NET February 2024

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

SPACE X STARLINK 7-15 VANDENBERG SFB CA
PRIMARY:   02/22/24   0424Z-0846Z
BACKUP:      02/23/24   0402Z-0824Z
      02/24/24   0341Z-0803Z
      02/25/24   0319Z-0741Z
      02/26/24   0257z-0719z
<snip>

https://twitter.com/breadfrom/status/1758646662799446120
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Hearing from a source that SpaceX is now targeting March 4 for the launch of Transporter-10.

Starlink 7-16 likely follows Starlink 7-15, with a launch NET in the final days of February.  Starlink 7-15 is currently scheduled to launch February 22.  SpaceX is attempting ~four to ~five day turnarounds.

Assuming a successful February 22 UTC Falcon 9 launch, this launch would be NET February 26 or 27.  Transporter-10 follows on March 4, and appears to be a RTLS landing--OCISLY turnaround would not gate Starlink 7-16 with respect to Transporter-10.
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Starlink 7-15 launched February 23 UTC.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7472
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Starlink Group 7-16
Launch Time
NET March 2024



Which first stage will be used for this launch?  (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are apparently now cleared for use up to twenty times for non-human spaceflight missions, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon and Cygnus than these other payloads.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1063.17   Jan 24 Starlink 7-17
1075.10   Jan 29
1071.15   Feb 10

Edit March 4: Transporter-10 successfully launched March 4 UTC, using just-transported to Vandenberg B1081.5!

Edit March 11 UTC: B1063.17 launches Starlink 7-17.

Edit March 18: It's B1075.10.
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Next Vandenberg Falcon 9 launch?

Edit March 5: No, it's to be Starlink 7-17.
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Starlink 7-17 successfully launched earlier today UTC.  Is this the next Vandenberg Falcon 9 launch, or Starlink 8-1?
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Starlink 7-17 successfully launched earlier today UTC.  Is this the next Vandenberg Falcon 9 launch, or Starlink 8-1?

It is.
NET early March 19 UTC (late March 18 PDT) per this 2nd stage de-orbit NOTAM:

A0371/24 NOTAMN
Q) SEFG/QXXLW/IV/NBO/AE/000/999/0004S07739W999
A) SEXX B) 2403190359 C) 2403250831
D) MAR 19, 20 0359-0827, MAR 21 0400-0828, MAR 22 0401-0829,
MAR 23 0402-0830 AND MAR 24, 25 0403-0831
E) FALCON 9 STARLINK 7-16 STAGE 2 REENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN IN THE
UNASSIGNED FIR, SECT DELIMITED BY THE FOLLOWING COORD 0119S 11654W,
0010S 11517W, 1500S 10441W, 1500S 10724W, 0119S 11654W
F) SFC G) UNL
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NGA Space Debris notice that is effectively a Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA
140000Z MAR 24
NAVAREA XII 148/24(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   190220Z TO 190651Z, 200220Z TO 200651Z, 
   210221Z TO 210652Z, 220222Z TO 220653Z,
   230223Z TO 230654Z, 240224Z TO 240655Z,
   AND 250224Z TO 250655Z MAR
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   30-38.00N 117-19.00W, 30-23.00N 117-19.00W,
   29-32.00N 117-06.00W, 29-12.00N 116-48.00W,
   28-58.00N 116-22.00W, 29-18.00N 115-56.00W,
   29-42.00N 116-06.00W, 30-04.00N 116-28.00W,
   30-37.00N 117-12.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 250755Z MAR 24.

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NGA Space Debris notice that is effectively a Rocket Launching notice.

Launch map from the notice.

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https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp:

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SPACE-X STARLINK 7-16, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   03/19/24   0220Z-0651Z
BACKUP:      03/20/24   0220Z-0651Z
      03/21/24   0221Z-0652Z
      03/22/24   0222Z-0653Z
      03/23/24   0223Z-0654Z
      03/24/24   0224Z-0655Z
      03/25/24   0224Z-0655Z

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https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1769145089199153484

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Of Course I Still Love You droneship is outbound from the Port of Long Beach to support Starlink 7-16.

Lindsay C + OCISLY departed PoLB on Mar 16 @ 4:33pm PT / 7:33pm ET
« Last Edit: 03/17/2024 12:47 am by realnouns »

Go Beyond departed PoLB on Mar 17 @ 9:00am PT / 12:00pm ET

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Primary launch time = 2024-03-19 02:28:00 UTC per CelesTrak.

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1769707151306424398

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CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 7-16 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2024-03-19 at 02:28:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g7-16. Deployment of 20 satellites at 03:30:26.260 UTC. Data for 12 backup launch opportunities also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Launch: 2024-03-19 02:28:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 03:30:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 02:46:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 03:48:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 02:56:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 03:58:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 03:36:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 04:38:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 04:00:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 05:02:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 04:14:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 05:16:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 04:28:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 05:30:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 05:04:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 06:06:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 05:26:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 06:28:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 05:28:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 06:30:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 05:42:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 06:44:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 06:08:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 07:10:26.260 UTC.
Launch: 2024-03-19 06:10:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-03-19 07:12:26.260 UTC.

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Last night, NOAA forecast for Vandenberg at launch time was zero sky cover, winds diminishing, looked perfect.  This morning it is slight ran, thunder and 45% sky cover.    Anyone else seeing this?  I was going to hit the road in an hour, now I might hold.

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w1=td&w2=wc&w3=sfcwind&w3u=1&w4=sky&w5=pop&w6=rh&w7=rain&w8=thunder&w9=snow&w10=fzg&w11=sleet&w13u=0&w15u=1&Submit=Submit&FcstType=graphical&textField1=34.821&textField2=-120.41&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=

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Only 20 satellites this time... is there any rideshare with them ? Otherwise, can these be DTC satellites ?
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SpaceX is targeting Monday, March 18 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:28 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 11:10 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Tuesday, March 19 starting at 7:38 p.m. PT.

A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about five minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the 10th flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched SDA-0A, SARah-2, and seven Starlink missions. (=B1075-10) Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship, which will be stationed in the Pacific Ocean.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-16

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I was going to hit the road in an hour, now I might hold.

Checking just now, it looks like 25% sky coverage for most of the launch window. I generally don't drive up to see these things on work nights, but if this were a weekend launch, I'd go for it. Also worth noting that the launch window opens about 20 minutes after local sunset, so this flight has jellyfish potential. I'll probably be watching from the Redondo Beach pier. Good luck with the viewing (assuming you decided to go)!
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For Steven P usage,

The SpaceX live Broadcast feed on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MYGNoYwElZJw

The backup Live Re-Broadcast link for those not wishing to view on Twitter is here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kG2qKXBd_Gk
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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1769858308943589426

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Targeting Monday, March 18 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 @Starlink
 satellites to low-Earth orbit from California → http://spacex.com/launches
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Due to the persistent cut-off low over the lower desert creating winds from the east and driving moisture up from the Baja coast, some rather off-seasonal weather, especially thunder and hail has been showing up daily.  Here is the latest from NWS

https://twitter.com/NWSLosAngeles/status/1769859066069991528

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A special weather statement has been issued for Los Angeles CA, Pasadena CA, and  East Los Angeles CA until 4:45 PM PDT
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Also occurring in the Ventura area

https://twitter.com/NWSLosAngeles/status/1769855857402269937

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A special weather statement has been issued for San Buenaventura CA, El Rio CA and  Saticoy CA until 4:15 PM PDT

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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1769900605915726192

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Less than one hour, weather is 80% go and all systems are ready for tonight’s launch of 22 @Starlink satellites from California
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T-38 minutes. The SpaceX launch director should be verifying go to start propellant loading.
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T-35 minutes. First stage LOX loading and first and second stage RP-1 loading should be starting about now.
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alternate re-broadcast link (just in case)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gHJ_M3hzvrA
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Go for launch!

"Propellant is flowing into Falcon 9 ahead of tonight’s 10th Vandenberg launch of the year"

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1769905210615574577
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PDF of online press kit.
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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1769905210615574577

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Propellant is flowing into Falcon 9 ahead of tonight’s 10th Vandenberg launch of the year
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T-20 minutes. Second stage RP-1 loading should be completed about now.
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T-16 minutes. Second stage LOX loading should be starting about now.
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Atop a hill in St. George, Utah hoping this is one of those we see.
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T-7 minutes. Engine chill should be starting about now.
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T-6 minutes. First stage RP-1 loading should be complete about now.
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T-5 minutes. Pressing Falcon 9 tanks for strongback retract.
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T-4 minutes. Strongback is retracting.
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T-3 minutes. First stage LOX load is complete.
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T-2 minutes. Second stage LOX load is complete.
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T-1 minute. Falcon 9 is in startup.

LD is go for launch.
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Liftoff!
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« Last Edit: 03/19/2024 11:18 pm by zubenelgenubi »
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First stage separation.

Ignition.

T+3 minutes.
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Fairing separation (not shown).

T+4 minutes.
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Entry burn.

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T+8 minutes. Landing burn.
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Fairing separation (not shown).

T+4 minutes.

Technical difficulties with the Stage 2 camera?
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Touchdown!

Cutoff.

End of webcast.
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Fairing separation (not shown).

T+4 minutes.

Technical difficulties with the Stage 2 camera?
Starshield payloads maybe?
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Upcoming events.

00:53:22 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:53:24 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:02:17 Starlink satellites deploy
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Fantastic view from SoCal.  Great, bright plume.  Saw staging and could follow the 1st stage through entry burn.  Probably the best I've seen from here in OC.
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And the booster lands again.

What SpaceX calls "a Monday".
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Seeing the payload fairings fall away was a nice touch.

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BTW it looks all but certain to me that 2 out of 22 Starlink satellites on just-launched Group 7-16 are actually “Starshield” sats of the US military:
* Mysterious drop outs in live camera feeds from the 2nd stage during ascent
* No forward looking camera views seen as per usual practices
* CelesTrak only getting names of 20 satellites despite SpaceX saying 22 has launched
* This launch is targeting 306 x 316 km, somewhat higher than the 276 x 285 usually used for Group 7 launches lately. And despite this orbit insertion was at an astonishing low 138 km when recent Group 7 launches have SECO-1 at ~152 km high.
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These two posts illustrate the wind shear dynamics of how upper-level winds twist the smoke trail in different directions depending upon wind direction.

https://twitter.com/BrianDouglasKNX/status/1769917957952692525

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The contrail from tonight’s @SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket launch, which took off from Vandenberg SFB, California.  The rocket’s contrail could be seen over a large swath of SoCal, and beyond. I got outside just in-time to hear the sonic booms and get a few images!

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T+53 minutes and 22 seconds. Expected ignition for two seconds.
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BTW it looks all but certain to me that 2 out of 22 Starlink satellites on just-launched Group 7-16 are actually “Starshield” sats of the US military:
* Mysterious drop outs in live camera feeds from the 2nd stage during ascent
* No forward looking camera views seen as per usual practices
* CelesTrak only getting names of 20 satellites despite SpaceX saying 22 has launched
* This launch is targeting 306 x 316 km, somewhat higher than the 276 x 285 usually used for Group 7 launches lately. And despite this orbit insertion was at an astonishing low 138 km when recent Group 7 launches have SECO-1 at ~152 km high.

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Great catch and explains the difference for this video.  Appreciate the deduction.

Maybe the two at the top of the stack are the Starshield and then an orbit adjustment later to place the Starlink to their proper orbit height?

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T+1 hour 2 minutes and 17 seconds. Expected separation.
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"Successful deployment of @Starlink satellites confirmed"

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Thanks, Steven for the excellent launch coverage. 
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https://twitter.com/TylerG1998/status/1769931329246843091

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Updated orbital launch count as of Mar. 18 (Mar. 19 UTC):

Earth 🌎 — 50/51

USA 🇺🇸 — 30/30
China 🇨🇳 — 11/11* (1 partial failure)
Russia 🇷🇺 — 3/3
Japan 🇯🇵 — 2/3
Iran 🇮🇷 — 2/2
India 🇮🇳 — 2/2

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Orbital launches by organization:

🇺🇸 — 26 SpaceX, 3 Rocket Lab, 1 ULA
🇨🇳 — 7 CASC (1 partial failure), 2 CASIC, 1 OrienSpace, 1 CAS Space
🇷🇺 — 3 RKK Energiya
🇯🇵 — 2 MHI, 1 Space One ❌
🇮🇳 — 2 ISRO
🇮🇷 — 1 IRGC, 1 ISA

2/3

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Launches by spaceport:

🇺🇸 — 12 Cape Canaveral, 10 Vandenberg, 5 KSC
🇨🇳 — 4 Xichang, 3 Jiuquan, 2 offshore, 2 Wenchang
🇳🇿 — 3 Māhia
🇷🇺 — 1 Plesetsk, 1 Baikonur, 1 Vostochny
🇯🇵 — 2 Tanegashima, 1 Space Port Kii
🇮🇳 — 2 Satish Dhawan
🇮🇷 — 1 Shahrud MTS, 1 Semnan

3/3
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More views from SoCal; third photo shows what looked like some sort of thruster firing from the fairings shortly after separation...

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Views of the booster dropping out of the sky while the 2nd stage continues to orbit

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This Post contains a montage of various other videos submitted.


https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1769938743454998738

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🚨#BREAKING: Thousands of people are witnessing a spectacular jellyfish vapor across night sky

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Currently, across Southern California and into Arizona, millions are witnessing a spectacular event after SpaceX launched their Falcon 9 rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, producing a stunning jellyfish-like vapor trail. Some people are concerned, thinking it might be a nuclear warhead launching or even calling it a UFO, but it’s just SpaceX doing their thing.

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bit.ly/SpaceLaunchCalendar ☆ bit.ly/SpaceEventCalendar

And celestrak has 20 out of 22. We shall see when they show up in the usual USA-XXX format. Possibly 350 and 351?

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Apparently there were 20 Starlinks and 2 Starshield satellites on board.

https://twitter.com/ShorealoneFilms/status/1769982003183866328

https://twitter.com/ShorealoneFilms/status/1769985798945018367

Interestings. I wonder what Hartman's sources are that mean he thinks he can confirm.
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Can someone help me with the math? I plug in 137 km altitude at 27361 km/hr to some equations and I get that it should be in an orbit of 137 km x -550 km orbit (that's negative, i.e. within the earth). Does SpaceX use earth's surface based numeric displays?
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Can someone help me with the math? I plug in 137 km altitude at 27361 km/hr to some equations and I get that it should be in an orbit of 137 km x -550 km orbit (that's negative, i.e. within the earth). Does SpaceX use earth's surface based numeric displays?

The quoted speed is Earth-relative, not inertial.

Edit: I estimate from the SupTLEs that SECO-1 was over 113W 26N more or less at an  azimuth of 141 deg. That means Vr = 27361 km/hr = 7.6003 km/s has components Vr cos (51 ) east, Vr sin (51) south.   Earth rotation vel is 0.4651 km/s at the equator, so 0.418 km/s east at 26N.   Adding these gives inertial velocity Vi = (4.783, 5.906) + (0.418, 0.000 ) = (5.201, -5.906)  which has norm  |Vi| = 7.869 km/s.

137 km perigee with Vi = 7.869  km/s at perigee results in a 137 x 297 km orbit.
A couple tweaks: taking into account the flattening of the Earth, this is actually only 134 km above the 'spherical fiducial Earth' which would give 134 x 287 km.
But: the result is VERY sensitive to the assumed latitude of the burn. If SECO-1
was at 22N instead of 26N, and that's a more realistic estimate when I model the orbit more carefully, the Vi increases to 7.883 km/s and the orbit is 134 x 334 km.  So there's a lot of slop given the uncertainties in the input data.
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Can someone help me with the math? I plug in 137 km altitude at 27361 km/hr to some equations and I get that it should be in an orbit of 137 km x -550 km orbit (that's negative, i.e. within the earth). Does SpaceX use earth's surface based numeric displays?

The quoted speed is Earth-relative, not inertial.

Earth-relative to where? The launch site? Do I need to do a 3D vector subtraction?
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Can someone help me with the math? I plug in 137 km altitude at 27361 km/hr to some equations and I get that it should be in an orbit of 137 km x -550 km orbit (that's negative, i.e. within the earth). Does SpaceX use earth's surface based numeric displays?

The quoted speed is Earth-relative, not inertial.

Earth-relative to where? The launch site? Do I need to do a 3D vector subtraction?

Relative to the rotating Earth surface, or more precisely to a coordinate frame rotating with the Earth.
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Interestings. I wonder what Hartman's sources are that mean he thinks he can confirm.
It's possible; we'll see if appropriate catalog entries eventually appear. But I am not convinced yet.

Cross-posting a summary of what we currently know.  No new "USA" satellites catalog entries yet.
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* Mysterious drop outs in live cam feeds from the 2nd stage during ascent
* No forward looking camera views seen as per usual practices.
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USA 352 cataloged from NROL-123. Which leaves USA 350 and USA 351 unused. I presume these are reserved for the Starshields aboard this launch (which are not cataloged yet):

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Space-Track has now cataloged the NROL-123 Electron launch. There are actually FOUR payloads:  "USA 352", MOLA,  Aerocube 16A and Aerocube 16B.  (Likely the earlier statement of 3 implies that AC-16A/B were deployed attached to each other and then separated?).
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USA 352 is presumably an NRO payload. AC-16A/B are cubesats from the Aerospace Corporation. It is known that the Naval Postgrad School was developing a cubesat called Mola, so that's probably the other one.

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The identification of the Electron payload 2024-053A as "USA 352" changes the balance of evidence on the Mar 19 Starlink Group 7-16 launch: it now seems likely that it DID carry two classified payloads, likely Starshield, to be designated USA 350 and USA 351 (59274/59275?)

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This is a ground-based video, end-to-end, taken from San Diego (200 miles south of Vandenberg Space Force Base) and located about halfway through the second stage burn. From this vantage point, you can see from MECO, the booster and fairings following behind the second stage within the plume. Then, eventually, the booster continues on its ballistic trajectory right up to the entry burn. Although the video continues to the second engine cutoff (SECO), the landing burn is not visible as it is below the horizon.

In the second video, I edited a three-way with the SpaceX broadcast with two other videos. One video was taken from Santa Barbara and captured the Falcon 9 through the main engine cutoff (MECO) and a little beyond, and then we followed with the San Diego video. Enjoy!

With this first video advance to 1:05 to start viewing the F9.  The second video starts viewing from the beginning.





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Space-Track have cataloged objects from the Mar 19 Starlink launch and it is now confirmed that two secret satellites were aboard, USA 350 and USA 351  (presumed Starshield sats) that are cataloged as 2024-050W and X  (59274 and 59275).

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Some reusability stats for this launch (Starlink Group 7-16):

Booster B1075.10 turnaround time:
49 days 20 hours 31 minutes
(its previous mission was Starlink Group 7-12 on Jan 29, 2024 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for Falcon 9 / Heavy boosters is currently 52.08 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches, excluding new first stages.

Launchpad SLC-4E turnaround time:
7 days 22 hours 19 minutes
(the previous launch from this pad was Starlink Group 7-17 on Mar 4, 2024 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for SLC-4E is currently 10.97 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches.

The same type of stats for previous SpaceX launches may be found on this spreadsheet online.

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