Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 6-25 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 30 October 2023 (23:20 UTC) (Read 21946 times)

zubenelgenubi · « **on:** 10/09/2023 05:23 pm »

Thread for the Starlink 6-25 group launch.

NSF Threads for Starlink 6-25: Discussion

Launch 30 October 2023, at 23:20:30 UTC (7:20 pm EDT), from Canaveral SLC-40, on booster 1077-8. The first stage successfully landed aboard Just Read the Instructions.

Payload 23 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 43 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory. Initial orbit 285 x 293 km.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.

L2 SpaceX: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #1 on:** 10/09/2023 05:47 pm »

Cross-posts re: Falcon 9 launch timing for the last third of October from Florida.
Starlink 6-25:

Quote from: gongora on 07/27/2023 01:03 am

1531-EX-ST-2023 SpaceX Mission 1879 Starlink Group 6-25
Florida, NET September [1]
ASDS North 25 41 37 West 75 5 42

Then,

Quote from: Salo on 08/17/2023 07:10 am

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7243
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Starlink Group 6-25
Launch Time
NET November, 2023
...
SLC-40 or LC-39A, Florida, USA

O3b mPower-c was scheduled to launch NET October 22, but then:

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/09/2023 06:24 am

The original FCC license application for O3b mPower-c:
Quote from: gongora on 04/26/2023 01:14 am
0932-EX-ST-2023 Mission 1823
NET late May [NET May 25/NLT Nov 25], launching east from Florida
ASDS North 28 16 11 West 73 35 6

Quote from: spacenuance on 10/05/2023 03:30 am
Quote from: gongora on 10/05/2023 03:15 am
2033-EX-ST-2023 Mission 1823 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC
NET late November [NET Nov 25]
ASDS North 28 16 11 West 73 35 6
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This application extends information from grant 0932-EX-ST-2023.

This is an extension to the 3rd O3b mPOWER mission FCC grant (assignment is not confirmed but very likely as speculated by others). Seems SpaceX thinks this may not launch until December.

Might this extension merely be like insurance?

Also, NET December could = NET Q4 in NextSF jargon = NET November/December?
Quote from: GewoonLukas_ on 10/09/2023 05:54 am
Delayed again...

NextSpaceflight (Updated October 9th)
Launch NET December 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943

Therefore:

Quote from: Salo on 10/09/2023 12:12 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated October 9; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 9 at 8:42 p.m. or later EDT. A Falcon Heavy will launch NASA's Psyche spacecraft to its namesake asteroid from pad 39A on October 12 at 10:16 a.m. EDT. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 14. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on mid-October. Upcoming launches include more Starlink missions from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the CRS-29 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 39A on November 3 at 11:49 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40.

The SLC-40 Starlink mission following 6-24 is likely to launch in late October. Assuming that SpaceX continues to launch its Florida Starlink Group 6's in ascending numerical order, this launch will be 6-25. It is currently listed with launch NET November, from either Kennedy LC-39A or Canaveral SLC-40.

However, LC-39A will not be available due to launch preparations for November Falcon 9 launches.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7243

Starlink 6-22 is currently scheduled to launch from SLC-40 from SLC-40 October 10 UTC, with a first stage landing aboard ASOG.

Starlink 6-23 is currently scheduled from SLC-40 NET October 14 UTC, with a first stage landing aboard JRTI.

Starlink 6-24 is currently scheduled to launch from SLC-40 NET October 19, with a first stage landing aboard ASOG.

Starlink 6-25 could launch NET October 23, with a first stage landing aboard JRTI. (4 day SLC-40 turnaround, 8 day ASDS turnaround)

(One more Starlink Group 6 launch could fit in from SLC-40 before or on Nov 1.

Foul weather and sea states, including hurricanes, will break the perfect pattern.🌀 Murphy's Law.)

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #2 on:** 10/09/2023 11:32 pm »

Cross-post:

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/09/2023 01:45 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated October 9, further updates:
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<snip>
A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October TBD. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October TBD. Upcoming launches include more Starlink missions from pad 40.
<snip>
Upcoming [November] launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40.

Salo · « **Reply #3 on:** 10/12/2023 06:29 pm »

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7243

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Starlink Group 6-25
Launch Time
NET Oct 26, 2023

GewoonLukas_ · « **Reply #4 on:** 10/15/2023 10:34 am »

Ben Cooper (Updated October 13th)

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A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 25

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #5 on:** 10/17/2023 11:27 pm »

This would delay Starlink 6-25 one day to October 26?
Starlink 6-24:

Quote from: GewoonLukas_ on 10/17/2023 10:43 am

NextSpaceflight (Updated October 17th)
Launch NET October 22nd, 2023, at 02:23 UTC
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7242

Salo · « **Reply #6 on:** 10/18/2023 01:20 am »

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7243

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Starlink Group 6-25
Launch Time
NET November, 2023

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #7 on:** 10/19/2023 07:32 am »

Ben Cooper once listed this as slipping into next month, but it looks like the next O3b mPower launch got delayed and this is back in October again:

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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 21 at 10:23 p.m. EDT or later. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on late October. A Falcon 9 will launch the CRS-29 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 39A on November 5 at 10:01 p.m. EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C internet satellites for SES from pad 40 on November, in the late afternoon EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the NOVA-C commercial lunar lander for Intuitive Machines & NASA from pad 39A on mid-November.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #8 on:** 10/19/2023 05:20 pm »

NextSpaceflight, updated October 19:
NET October 25

However, Starlink 6-24 will be the previous launch from SLC-40 on the 22nd UTC. SpaceX requires approximately 4 days to turn around the launch complex.

JRTI would be the ASDS and previously served a successful first stage landing on the 18th UTC. SpaceX requires approximately 8 days to turn the Florida ASDS around.

Launch should be NET October 26 UTC.

Caveat: What if SpaceX succeeds at further reducing pad and ASDS turnarounds?

Edit: If a faster turnaround is to be attempted, then NET October 25 is possible.

realnouns · « **Reply #9 on:** 10/19/2023 08:26 pm »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/19/2023 05:20 pm

NextSpaceflight, updated October 19:
NET October 25

However, Starlink 6-24 will be the previous launch from SLC-40 on the 22nd UTC. SpaceX requires approximately 4 days to turn around the launch complex.

JRTI would be the ASDS and previously served a successful first stage landing on the 18th UTC. SpaceX requires approximately 8 days to turn the Florida ASDS around.

Launch should be NET October 26 UTC.

Caveat: What if SpaceX succeeds at further reducing pad and ASDS turnarounds?

Well..... technically JRTI's fastest turnaround between launches is 7.78d (SL 6-4 to SL-5-11). It's fastest return time (launch to entering PC) is 2.40d (SL 6-4). It's fastest PC in and out is 0.44d (SL 6-11 to SL 6-12). It's shortest PC departure to launch is 2.70d (SL 6-12). So if it maxed out all those, theoretically it could do 5.54d between launches.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #10 on:** 10/21/2023 12:24 pm »

NextSpaceflight, updated October 21:
NET October 28

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #11 on:** 10/22/2023 12:01 pm »

NOTAM for 2nd stage re-entry zone:

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F3466/23 NOTAMN Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/1612S08233E730 A) YMMM B) 2310290103 C) 2311040326 D) 2310290103 TO 2310290557 2310300038 TO 2310300532 2310310013 TO 2310310507 2310312347 TO 2311010441 2311012322 TO 2311020416 2311022257 TO 2311030351 2311032232 TO 2311040326 E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 6-25 WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS: 2033S 07500E 0746S 08927E 0853S 09228E 2422S 07500E TO BEGINNING F) SFC G) UNL

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #12 on:** 10/22/2023 05:59 pm »

NextSpaceflight, updated October 22:
October 28 9:00 pm EDT = October 29 01:00 UTC

However:

Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/22/2023 12:01 pm

NOTAM for 2nd stage re-entry zone:
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F3466/23 NOTAMN Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/1612S08233E730 A) YMMM B) 2310290103 C) 2311040326 D) 2310290103 TO 2310290557 <snip>

Second orbit re-entry into Indian Ocean?
Therefore, launch NET Oct 28 ~23:00 UTC?

Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

The May 16 press briefing revealed Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to twenty times for Starlink launches.

1064.5 and 1065.5 are reserved as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for USSF-52.

1072.1 is reserved for Cygnus NG-20.

1076.9 and 1073.11 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are available for "single-stick" launches currently.

One of the lesser-used first stages may be held for Cargo Dragon SpX-29, currently launching Nov 6 UTC.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1081.2 Aug 26 (reserved for SpX-29?)
1077.8 Sep 1
1073.11 Sep 4
1078.6 Sep 16
1058.18 Sep 20
1060.18 Sep 24
1069.11 Sep 30
1076.9 Oct 5

Edit October 28: It's B1077.8.

Will this launch also carry 23 satellites?
Starlink 6-24; my bold:

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/20/2023 11:46 pm

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-6-24
B1080-4
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SpaceX is targeting Saturday, October 21 at 10:17 p.m. ET for a Falcon 9 launch of 23 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. <snip>

Edit October 28: Yes, 23 satellites.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #13 on:** 10/23/2023 12:30 pm »

NGA Rocket Launching notice and two Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Quote from: NGA

230933Z OCT 23
NAVAREA IV 1231/23(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
BAHAMAS.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   282313Z TO 290344Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   292248Z TO 300319Z, 302223Z TO 310254Z,
   312157Z OCT TO 010228Z NOV, 
   012132Z TO 020203Z, 022107Z TO 030138Z, 
   032042Z TO 040113Z NOV IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.38N 080-37.25W, 28-39.00N 080-36.00W,
      28-39.00N 080-35.00W, 28-38.00N 080-30.00W,
      28-36.00N 080-22.00W, 28-26.00N 080-08.00W,
      28-23.00N 080-11.00W, 28-23.00N 080-14.00W,
      28-30.87N 080-33.22W.
   B. 26-15.00N 076-00.00W, 26-06.00N 074-58.00W,
      25-36.00N 074-03.00W, 25-23.00N 073-53.00W,
      25-09.00N 074-01.00W, 25-06.00N 074-16.00W,
      25-08.00N 074-38.00W, 25-18.00N 075-00.00W,
      25-58.00N 075-59.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 040213Z NOV 23.//

Quote from: NGA

230857Z OCT 23
HYDROPAC 3359/23(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   2240Z TO 0540Z DAILY 28 OCT THRU 04 NOV
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050640Z NOV 23.//

Quote from: NGA

230857Z OCT 23
HYDROLANT 2415/23(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   2240Z TO 0540Z DAILY 28 OCT THRU 04 NOV
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050640Z NOV 23.//

OneSpeed · « **Reply #14 on:** 10/25/2023 12:26 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/23/2023 12:30 pm

NGA Rocket Launching notice and two Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Maps from the NGA notices. ASDS 630km downrange.

Edit: On closer inspection, it appears a small dogleg will be introduced for the booster, and that there will be a slight reduction in the already small dogleg for the second stage. Added an anigif of 6-24 vs 6-25, open the file to view the animation.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #15 on:** 10/25/2023 02:21 pm »

Cross-post; my bold:

Quote from: Salo on 10/25/2023 05:19 am

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated October 24:
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...
Falcon 9, October 28 @ around 8 p.m. to 12 a.m. EDT (pad 40)
...

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 28 around 8 p.m. EDT or later. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on early November. A Falcon 9 will launch the CRS-29 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 39A on November 5 at 10:01 p.m. EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C internet satellites for SES from pad 40 on November, in the late afternoon EST.

The first flight of the Vulcan rocket will send the Astrobiotic Peregrine lunar lander to the moon on December 24.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #16 on:** 10/25/2023 07:12 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1717257537454486012

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Just Read the Instructions droneship is underway from Port Canaveral to support Starlink 6-25. Tug Signet Titan towing.

nsf.live/spacecoast

realnouns · « **Reply #17 on:** 10/25/2023 07:29 pm »

Signet Titan + JRTI departed PC on Oct 25 @ 3:09pm ET

realnouns · « **Reply #18 on:** 10/25/2023 07:34 pm »

Quote from: realnouns on 10/25/2023 07:33 pm

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
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STARLINK 6-25:CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:   10/28/23   2313Z-0344Z
BACKUP:      10/29/23   2248Z-0319Z
      10/30/23   2223Z-0254Z
      10/31/23   2157Z-0228Z

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #19 on:** 10/26/2023 09:15 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1717647355615313986

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Departure! Bob is outbound from Port Canaveral to support Starlink 6-25. The forecast suggests it'll be a bumpy ride 🌊JRTI got underway yesterday.

nsf.live/spacecoast