Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 6-17 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 19/20 Sep 2023 (03:38 UTC) (Read 25736 times)

zubenelgenubi · « **on:** 09/08/2023 08:50 am »

Thread for the Starlink 6-17 group launch.

NSF Threads for Starlink 6-17: Discussion

Launch 20 September 2023, 03:38:10 UTC (19 September 11:38 pm EDT), from Canaveral SLC-40, on booster 1058-17. The first stage will land aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas.

Payload 22 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 43 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory. Initial orbit 284 x 294 km.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.

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zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #1 on:** 09/08/2023 09:07 am »

Cross-posts:

Quote from: gongora on 05/03/2023 08:56 pm

0968-EX-ST-2023 Mission 1900 Starlink Group 6-17
NET June from Florida [NET May 31]
ASDS North 25 38 18 West 74 59 6

All the Florida Starlink Group 6 launches, 6-10 and up, were listed for H2 2023 on our USA launch update thread here.

Then,

Quote from: Salo on 06/14/2023 10:38 pm

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7184
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Starlink Group 6-16
Launch Time
NET September, 2023

But, it could just as well be for any of the Florida Starlink Group 6 launches announced at the same time?

Discussion:

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 08/23/2023 05:00 pm

Quote from: GewoonLukas_ on 08/17/2023 05:35 am
Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 08/16/2023 11:34 pm
Will there be any non-Starlink September Florida Falcon 9 launches from Florida? Apparently not (assuming the next mPower launch is not delayed into September).
Possibly USSF-124 if that September 29th launchdate from that recent presentation holds.
And now, O3b mPower is listed NET October/NET Q4, and USSF-124 is listed NET November.

So, we have wall-to-wall 🧱 September Florida Starlink launches! 🍎

September SLC-40 Starlink launches:

Quote from: Salo on 08/28/2023 06:30 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated August 28:
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Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40.

The SLC-40 Starlink mission following 6-16 is likely to launch in mid September. Assuming (big assumption) that SpaceX continues to launch its Florida Starlink Group 6's in ascending numerical order, this launch will be 6-17. It is currently listed as launch NET September, from Canaveral SLC-40.
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7178

Starlink 6-11 successfully launched August 27 UTC from SLC-40, with a successful first stage landing aboard JRTI.

Starlink 6-13 successfully launched September 1 UTC from SLC-40, with a successful first stage landing aboard ASOG.

Starlink 6-12 successfully launched September 4 UTC from LC-39A, with a successful first stage landing aboard JRTI.

Starlink 6-14 is currently scheduled to launch from SLC-40 on September 8 UTC, with a first stage landing aboard ASOG.

Starlink 6-16 is currently scheduled to launch from SLC-40 on September 15 UTC, with a first stage landing aboard JRTI.

Starlink 6-17 could launch from SLC-40 as early as September 19, with a first stage landing aboard ASOG. (4 day pad turnaround, 11 day ASOG turnaround.)

GewoonLukas_ · « **Reply #2 on:** 09/13/2023 11:33 am »

NextSpaceflight (Updated September 13th)
Launch NET September 19th, 2023
First stage landing aboard ASOG
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7178

Nosu · « **Reply #3 on:** 09/13/2023 12:33 pm »

Quote from: GewoonLukas_ on 09/13/2023 11:33 am

NextSpaceflight (Updated September 13th)
Launch NET September 19th, 2023
First stage landing aboard ASOG
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7178

That date likely comes from the following NOTAM

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F3022/23 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/1452S08358E617
A) YMMM
B) 2309190402 C) 2309250625
D) 2309190402 TO 2309190857
2309200337 TO 2309200831
2309210312 TO 2309210806
2309220247 TO 2309220741
2309230221 TO 2309230716
2309240156 TO 2309240651
2309250131 TO 2309250625
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF STARLINK 6-17 ROCKET WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS:
2034S 07500E
0745S 08927E
0852S 09227E
2420S 07500E TO BEGINNING
PRIMARY LAUNCH 230919
BACKUP AS PER FIELD D
F) SFC G) UNL

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #4 on:** 09/13/2023 06:07 pm »

Cross-post:

Quote from: Salo on 09/13/2023 05:57 pm

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
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<snip> A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 19 between around 12 and 4 a.m. EDT. <snip>

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #5 on:** 09/15/2023 03:07 am »

Starlink 6-16 launch delayed one day; this launch will likely be delayed one day as well.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #6 on:** 09/15/2023 03:33 am »

This was added to the FAA ATCSCC Current Operations Plan Advisory sometime today. As zubenelgenubi noted above, this launch will likely be delayed in parallel with delays to 6-16.

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

Quote from: FAA

SPACE X STARLINK 6-17 (X1872) CCSFS, FL
PRIMARY:    09/19/23    0212-0644Z
BACKUP:     09/20/23    0147-0618Z
            09/21/23    0122-0553Z
            09/22/23    0057-0528Z
            09/23/23    0031-0503Z
            09/24/23    0006-0438Z
            09/24/23    2341-0412Z

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #7 on:** 09/15/2023 11:27 am »

An NGA Rocket Launching notice and two Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Note: These notices do not reflect the likely delay due to the delay to 6-16.

Quote from: NGA

150721Z SEP 23
NAVAREA IV 1064/23(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   190212Z TO 190644Z SEP, ALTERNATE 
   200147Z TO 200618Z, 210122Z TO 210553Z, 
   220057Z TO 220528Z, 230031Z TO 230503Z, 
   240006Z TO 240438Z AND 242341Z TO 250412Z SEP 
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.00N 080-36.97W, 28-38.00N 080-31.00W,
      28-22.00N 080-02.00W, 28-17.00N 080-01.00W,
      28-24.00N 080-18.00W, 28-30.30N 080-32.94W.
   B. 26-15.00N 076-00.00W, 26-06.00N 074-58.00W,
      25-36.00N 074-03.00W, 25-23.00N 073-53.00W,
      25-09.00N 074-01.00W, 25-06.00N 074-16.00W,
      25-08.00N 074-38.00W, 25-18.00N 075-00.00W,
      25-58.00N 075-59.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 250512Z SEP 23.//

Quote from: NGA

150804Z SEP 23
HYDROPAC 2958/23(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   0139Z TO 0840Z DAILY 19 THRU 25 SEP
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 250940Z SEP 23.//

Quote from: NGA

150804Z SEP 23
HYDROLANT 2068/23(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   0139Z TO 0840Z DAILY 19 THRU 25 SEP
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 250940Z SEP 23.//

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #8 on:** 09/15/2023 05:29 pm »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/15/2023 05:33 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 15:
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A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 19 around 10 p.m. EDT.

NextSpaceflight, updated September 15:
Launch 20 September 01:47 UTC = 19 September 9:47 pm EDT

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #9 on:** 09/15/2023 09:28 pm »

A cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice postponing to September 20. Gee, what a surprise. 😜

Quote from: NGA

152033Z SEP 23
NAVAREA IV 1067/23(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   200147Z TO 200618Z SEP, ALTERNATE 
   210122Z TO 210553Z, 220057Z TO 220528Z, 
   230031Z TO 230503Z, 240006Z TO 240438Z, 
   242341Z TO 250412Z, 252316Z TO 260347Z SEP
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.00N 080-36.97W, 28-38.00N 080-31.00W,
      28-22.00N 080-02.00W, 28-17.00N 080-01.00W,
      28-24.00N 080-18.00W, 28-30.30N 080-32.94W.
   B. 26-15.00N 076-00.00W, 26-06.00N 074-58.00W,
      25-36.00N 074-03.00W, 25-23.00N 073-53.00W,
      25-09.00N 074-01.00W, 25-06.00N 074-16.00W,
      25-08.00N 074-38.00W, 25-18.00N 075-00.00W,
      25-58.00N 075-59.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1064/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 260447Z SEP 23.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #10 on:** 09/15/2023 10:32 pm »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/15/2023 11:27 am

An NGA Rocket Launching notice and two Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Maps from the NGA notices. ASDS 642km downrange. The LHA is similar to previous launches, and the Space Debris area is identical to 6-16.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #11 on:** 09/16/2023 01:21 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1703024021980225852

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Departure 🌞 ASOG droneship and Doug are outbound from Port Canaveral to support SpaceX Starlink 6-17

nsf.live/spacecoast

realnouns · « **Reply #12 on:** 09/16/2023 02:50 pm »

Doug + ASOG departed PC on Sep 16 @ 8:29am ET

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #13 on:** 09/16/2023 04:08 pm »

Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

The May 16 press briefing revealed Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to twenty times for Starlink launches. Will this launch be the first 17th launch of a Falcon 9 first stage?

1064.4 and 1065.4 are reserved as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Psyche.

1072.1 is reserved for Cygnus NG-20.

1076.8 and 1073.11 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but are apparently still available for "single-stick" launches at the current time.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1058.17 Jul 10
1060.17 Jul 16
1062.16 Jul 28 (after "deep" inspection?)
1069.10 Aug 11
1067.14 Aug 17
1081.2 Aug 26
1080.4 Aug 27
1077.8 Sep 1 (maybe)
1073.11 Sep 4 (maybe)

Edit September 19: It's B1060.17.
Edit September 20: Surprise! It's B1058.17. First use of a 17-flight booster!

Martin_G · « **Reply #14 on:** 09/17/2023 12:23 pm »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/16/2023 04:08 pm

Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

1062.15 Jul 28

Wouldn't it be 1062.16?

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #15 on:** 09/17/2023 03:42 pm »

Quote from: Martin_G on 09/17/2023 12:23 pm

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/16/2023 04:08 pm
Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

1062.15 Jul 28
Wouldn't it be 1062.16?

It would; typos corrected.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #16 on:** 09/18/2023 01:49 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceteam/status/1703764205273227750

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Weather iffy for next SpaceX Falcon 9 launch from Cape Canaveral overnight Tuesday

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2023/09/18/spacex-starlink-falcon-9-launch-tuesday-cape-canaveral-space-force-florida/70888975007/

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The Space Force's 45th Weather Squadron hadn't yet released a weather forecast for the possible launch. Meteorologists at the National Weather Service station in Melbourne, however, expect a 60% chance of showers and thunderstorms Tuesday night at the Space Force station, with a low around 75, mostly cloudy skies, and east-northeast wind around 10 mph.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #17 on:** 09/18/2023 06:20 pm »

L-1 launch weather forecast is 60% GO, all additional risk criteria are low

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #18 on:** 09/19/2023 12:03 am »

First launch opportunity on September 20 at 02:47:40 UTC.

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1703871820439687560

Quote from: T.S. Kelso

CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 6-17 launch from Cape Canaveral on 2023-09-20 at 02:47:40 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g6-17
. Deployment of 22 satellites is set for 03:53:03.820 UTC. Data for 4 backup launch opportunities is also provided.

Launch: 2023-09-20 02:47:40 UTC. Deployment: 2023-09-20 03:53:03.820 UTC.
Launch: 2023-09-20 03:38:10 UTC. Deployment: 2023-09-20 04:43:33.820 UTC.
Launch: 2023-09-20 04:28:40 UTC. Deployment: 2023-09-20 05:34:03.820 UTC.
Launch: 2023-09-20 05:19:10 UTC. Deployment: 2023-09-20 06:24:33.820 UTC.
Launch: 2023-09-20 05:46:30 UTC. Deployment: 2023-09-20 06:51:53.820 UTC.

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #19 on:** 09/19/2023 01:06 am »

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-6-17

B1060 is flying for the 17th time.