1807-EX-ST-2023 Mission 2102 Starlink Group 8-1 from SLC-4EASDS North 29 52 50 West 116 45 3[NET Sep 25 2023/NLT Mar 25 2024]
Cross-post regarding first Starlink Group 8 launch:Quote from: gongora on 09/04/2023 06:41 pm1807-EX-ST-2023 Mission 2102 Starlink Group 8-1 from SLC-4EASDS North 29 52 50 West 116 45 3[NET Sep 25]
1807-EX-ST-2023 Mission 2102 Starlink Group 8-1 from SLC-4EASDS North 29 52 50 West 116 45 3[NET Sep 25]
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jspQuoteSPACEX STARLINK 7-5 VANDENBERG SFB, CAPRIMARY : 10/21/23 0619Z-1039ZBACKUP: 10/22/23 0558Z-1017Z 10/23/23 0536Z-0956Z 10/24/23 0515Z-0934Z 10/25/23 0453Z-0912Z
SPACEX STARLINK 7-5 VANDENBERG SFB, CAPRIMARY : 10/21/23 0619Z-1039ZBACKUP: 10/22/23 0558Z-1017Z 10/23/23 0536Z-0956Z 10/24/23 0515Z-0934Z 10/25/23 0453Z-0912Z
Cross-post re: Starlink 7-5:Quote from: realnouns on 10/17/2023 07:43 pmhttps://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jspQuoteSPACEX STARLINK 7-5 VANDENBERG SFB, CAPRIMARY : 10/21/23 0619Z-1039ZBACKUP: 10/22/23 0558Z-1017Z 10/23/23 0536Z-0956Z 10/24/23 0515Z-0934Z 10/25/23 0453Z-0912ZThis pushes Starlink 8-1 to NET November. I have seen no notice, beyond that noted in the opening posts, of when it will occur.
Quote from: raptorx2 on 12/02/2023 12:10 amBREAKING NEWS! FCC Approves in Part, Defers in Part SpaceX's Feb. 07, 2023 application to provide "Commercial" Direct 2 Device service. Providing SpaceX with "First Mover Advantage" in the D2D marketplaceSATMOD2023020700021https://twitter.com/FREESPEECH1017/status/1730772350646526400QuoteMore on SpaceX D2D "Scope of Grant"The most important. "Authority to Launch"This Grant authorizes SpaceX for the Launch of "Modified" satellites (up to 7,500 Gen. 2) into the three authorized Gen. 2 orbital parameters and allows "limited on-orbit check out in the PCS G Block of the satellite buss and antenna deployment for a period of 10 days or less. This authority does not permit LEOP operations. Only the initial 10 day check out period on orbit.This authorization was the first necessary step in the process. You can not authorize the "launch of satellites" on a STA. So this is the purpose of this License Grant. SpaceX will need to perform LEOP operations shortly after the payloads are past the initial checkout period. That is where the new STA SpaceX applied for today 12/01 comes into play.SES-STA-INTR2023-06753"SpaceX will conduct its payload testing activities during the launch and early orbit phase (“LEOP”) of the satellites’ mission. During the critical check-out phase, which will begin within hours of launch at an altitude between 290 km and 350 km—depending on the particulars of the specific launch—and will continue for several weeks for each satellite, SpaceX will test the functionality of each direct-to-cellular payload and its network capabilities to ensure that they are operating as intended. Permitting this initial, internal LEOP check-out testing over several weeks (or longer as necessary) for each satellite is critical to assess and address issues as they arise."Then eventually they will transition to the previously filed STA on October 2nd. for wide-spread testing with TMobile.SAT-STA-20231002-00240"Direct-to-cell STA to launch and test its non-geostationary orbit NGSO second generation Gen2 satellites with direct-to-cellular communications payloads to connect unmodified cellular phones directly to SpaceX Gen2 satellites"Every D2D operator that will provide service to the US will require authority to launch from the FCC.https://twitter.com/FREESPEECH1017/status/1730971108495823025QuoteCorrect. 10 days, then the STA will be approved fo[r] LEOP testing, 30 days, renewable. The take away is, you can't launch on a STA. Because you can not easily "unlaunch them" if the STA is not renewed. Watch for a series of filings next week for D2D missions @FCC. I suspect that the 800 satellite number will include at least 1 Starship launch.Edit/add: zubenelgenubi
BREAKING NEWS! FCC Approves in Part, Defers in Part SpaceX's Feb. 07, 2023 application to provide "Commercial" Direct 2 Device service. Providing SpaceX with "First Mover Advantage" in the D2D marketplaceSATMOD2023020700021
More on SpaceX D2D "Scope of Grant"The most important. "Authority to Launch"This Grant authorizes SpaceX for the Launch of "Modified" satellites (up to 7,500 Gen. 2) into the three authorized Gen. 2 orbital parameters and allows "limited on-orbit check out in the PCS G Block of the satellite buss and antenna deployment for a period of 10 days or less. This authority does not permit LEOP operations. Only the initial 10 day check out period on orbit.This authorization was the first necessary step in the process. You can not authorize the "launch of satellites" on a STA. So this is the purpose of this License Grant. SpaceX will need to perform LEOP operations shortly after the payloads are past the initial checkout period. That is where the new STA SpaceX applied for today 12/01 comes into play.SES-STA-INTR2023-06753"SpaceX will conduct its payload testing activities during the launch and early orbit phase (“LEOP”) of the satellites’ mission. During the critical check-out phase, which will begin within hours of launch at an altitude between 290 km and 350 km—depending on the particulars of the specific launch—and will continue for several weeks for each satellite, SpaceX will test the functionality of each direct-to-cellular payload and its network capabilities to ensure that they are operating as intended. Permitting this initial, internal LEOP check-out testing over several weeks (or longer as necessary) for each satellite is critical to assess and address issues as they arise."Then eventually they will transition to the previously filed STA on October 2nd. for wide-spread testing with TMobile.SAT-STA-20231002-00240"Direct-to-cell STA to launch and test its non-geostationary orbit NGSO second generation Gen2 satellites with direct-to-cellular communications payloads to connect unmodified cellular phones directly to SpaceX Gen2 satellites"Every D2D operator that will provide service to the US will require authority to launch from the FCC.
Correct. 10 days, then the STA will be approved fo[r] LEOP testing, 30 days, renewable. The take away is, you can't launch on a STA. Because you can not easily "unlaunch them" if the STA is not renewed. Watch for a series of filings next week for D2D missions @FCC. I suspect that the 800 satellite number will include at least 1 Starship launch.
Quote from: raptorx2 on 12/02/2023 12:10 amBREAKING NEWS! FCC Approves in Part, Defers in Part SpaceX's Feb. 07, 2023 application to provide "Commercial" Direct 2 Device service. Providing SpaceX with "First Mover Advantage" in the D2D marketplace<snip>So we will get notice of the Starlink Group 8-1 launch soon.
BREAKING NEWS! FCC Approves in Part, Defers in Part SpaceX's Feb. 07, 2023 application to provide "Commercial" Direct 2 Device service. Providing SpaceX with "First Mover Advantage" in the D2D marketplace<snip>
Scheduled:Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)2024NET December 2023 Q1 - Starlink group 8-1 (x21) flight ?? [V2 Mini L??] - Falcon 9 (OCISLY) - Vandenberg SLC-4EChanges on December 21st
Looks like Group 8 flights will launch from Eastern Range.
Only 1 launch slot available on or around March 22nd.SpaceX applied for 7-18 - 7-23 from Vandenberg today. Looks like Group 8 flights will launch from Eastern Range.
Starlink 7-17 successfully launched earlier today [Mar 11] UTC. Is [Starlink 7-16] the next Vandenberg Falcon 9 launch, or Starlink 8-1?
And…7-18 is next, NET early March 28 UTC.
Confirmed: https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-18QuoteSpaceX is targeting no earlier than Friday, March 29 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:30 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 11:30 p.m. PT.https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1773545771570180605QuoteStanding down from tonight’s Falcon 9 launch of @Starlink. Targeting no earlier than Friday, March 29 for liftoff.
SpaceX is targeting no earlier than Friday, March 29 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:30 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 11:30 p.m. PT.
Standing down from tonight’s Falcon 9 launch of @Starlink. Targeting no earlier than Friday, March 29 for liftoff.
Some NOTAMs have started to appear for this (2nd stage re-entry zone); NET early April 4 UTC. ...
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-18QuoteSpaceX is targeting no earlier than Saturday, March 30 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:30 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 11:30 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Sunday, March 31 starting at 7:30 p.m. PT.
SpaceX is targeting no earlier than Saturday, March 30 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:30 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 11:30 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Sunday, March 31 starting at 7:30 p.m. PT.
