Author Topic: SpaceX stops using YouTube; new content X only; effect on NSF content? (Read 50821 times)

Robotbeat · « **Reply #100 on:** 09/13/2023 01:43 pm »

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Quote from: Robotbeat on 09/13/2023 02:48 am
Who really cares?

I think this is the case of people not liking Musk for other reasons again, thus exaggerating how important different changes are. (And I get why people don’t like Musk. He has dipped deeply into politics lately and made increasingly questionable decisions about the kind of folks he sort of associates with… all a very bad look.)

I think there is an effort by folks to sort of separate Musk from SpaceX in a way, or rather focus on SpaceX on their own merits instead of putting the focus on Musk. The subject of this thread only ties SpaceX closer to Musk personally which is a little bit distasteful if you're not part of the cult of personality surrounding him.

Aside from that, the video quality is objectively worse on Twitter as others have said. You can't spin this into an improvement on the quality although you can think what you like about the Twitter/X platform as a whole.
Im not trying to spin anything, just saying reality. I think Elon got SpaceX streams to be higher resolution on Twitter. Actually look at the most recent ones, they’re 1080p.
Resolution means little, it's bitrate that's the problem. Youtube can easily stream upwards of 10Mbps if your connection can handle it (and you are two mouseclicks from forcing it to give you the maximum bitrate, buffering be damned). Twitter will rarely break 5Mbps even for non-streaming video, and what bitrate is actually presented is based on the random and capricious whims of pixies and faeries.

That’s fair. On the other hand, putting SpaceX videos on Twitter exclusively will probably lead to improvements to Twitter’s video service as the guy who controls one company knows the other guy.

RedLineTrain · « **Reply #101 on:** 09/13/2023 04:22 pm »

Quote from: Robotbeat on 09/13/2023 01:43 pm

That’s fair. On the other hand, putting SpaceX videos on Twitter exclusively will probably lead to improvements to Twitter’s video service as the guy who controls one company knows the other guy.

To put a finer point on this, SpaceX is now an internet infrastructure company and probably shares some employees with Twitter who are improving the video service.

HVM · « **Reply #102 on:** 09/13/2023 07:32 pm »

You're instilling me with a lot of confidence of X image quality. Elon.

Ghoti · « **Reply #103 on:** 09/13/2023 07:33 pm »

Cheap shot. You know perfectly well that the original post was high res and that if you click on the low res photo you get the high res version.

r8ix · « **Reply #104 on:** 09/13/2023 07:37 pm »

Quote from: HVM on 09/13/2023 07:32 pm

You're instilling me with a lot of confidence of X image quality. Elon.

Try getting Starlink, then your connection will be able to handle higher resolution images…

Here's mine, for comparison...

WindnWar · « **Reply #105 on:** 09/14/2023 03:31 am »

I think the fact that short of having a direct link to a vid, you can't easily watch it without an account pretty much negates it's usefulness for a large number of people. I've never had an account there, I never will. Previously I could easily pull up a persons twitter handle and see the things they were posting, without needing to be a member of the platform, now it's just splash screens of sign in to X... for a site that relies on ad revenue to basically create a walled garden seems like a poor way to increase the eyeballs on the platform, but even if you are a member the interface is just terrible.

You switch things up when the experience is actually better, yet nothing about this is and given as haphazard as everything else over there has been, I fail to see the experience improving no matter how much torment he gives his staff there to make it better.

At least I know the streams of NSF being watched helps the site and the folks creating it with revenue to help cover it.

HVM · « **Reply #106 on:** 09/14/2023 11:48 am »

Quote from: r8ix on 09/13/2023 07:37 pm

Quote from: HVM on 09/13/2023 07:32 pm
You're instilling me with a lot of confidence of X image quality. Elon.
Try getting Starlink, then your connection will be able to handle higher resolution images…

Here's mine, for comparison...

I’m joking, and so are you. But you know, images load slower not just stop to thumbnail or minimum bit/MPEG level at with slower connection. And this only happens with reXposts (The hentai on my timeline is fine, as you can see ; ). The latest SpaceX stream was 720p for 10 seconds and then dropped to 480p. I tried a random YouTube stream and it worked fine at 1440p. Maybe the codec is just inefficient like Jarnis said above. I even checked if Robotbeat had the blue check mark of the devil, but no.

alugobi · « **Reply #107 on:** 09/14/2023 04:18 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Scott on 09/14/2023 05:42 am

Anyways, human spaceflight launches are forecast to reduce in the years/decades ahead. Like maybe one or two more this decade.

Says who?

edkyle99 · « **Reply #108 on:** 09/19/2023 06:06 pm »

Elon suggesting that X may switch to a paywall. Will Spacex launch webcasts then be available only to subscribers?

- Ed Kyle

russianhalo117 · « **Reply #109 on:** 09/19/2023 06:35 pm »

Quote from: edkyle99 on 09/19/2023 06:06 pm

Elon suggesting that X may switch to a paywall. Will Spacex launch webcasts then be available only to subscribers?

- Ed Kyle

Very likely as some other X Corp entities have already done so.

alugobi · « **Reply #110 on:** 09/19/2023 10:29 pm »

Good. Hoping NSF contributors who use it as their go-to begin to rethink, and find another venue for sharing their work. I don't know what that is, but twitter is getting no clicks from me, and I DO want to see your work photogs.

Metalskin · « **Reply #111 on:** 09/19/2023 11:29 pm »

Quote from: alugobi on 09/19/2023 10:29 pm

Good. Hoping NSF contributors who use it as their go-to begin to rethink, and find another venue for sharing their work. I don't know what that is, but twitter is getting no clicks from me, and I DO want to see your work photogs.

Agree. Unfortunately there are no good alternatives within social media for sharing high resolution work. Sure, there are photo oriented sites, but they just don't have the reach as the generic social media. I really hope facebook doesn't become the replacement, I avoid facebook. And Instagram isn't an option.

Maybe it comes down to the motivation as to why they share their work. If it's for internet likes, then I suspect facebook will replace twiter, or maybe some instagram morphed solution.

russianhalo117 · « **Reply #112 on:** 09/20/2023 12:51 am »

Quote from: Metalskin on 09/19/2023 11:29 pm

Quote from: alugobi on 09/19/2023 10:29 pm
Good. Hoping NSF contributors who use it as their go-to begin to rethink, and find another venue for sharing their work. I don't know what that is, but twitter is getting no clicks from me, and I DO want to see your work photogs.

Agree. Unfortunately there are no good alternatives within social media for sharing high resolution work. Sure, there are photo oriented sites, but they just don't have the reach as the generic social media. I really hope facebook doesn't become the replacement, I avoid facebook. And Instagram isn't an option.

Maybe it comes down to the motivation as to why they share their work. If it's for internet likes, then I suspect facebook will replace twiter, or maybe some instagram morphed solution.

META created threads as their immediate alternative to Twitter with it absorbering former Twitter personnel from executive management to collared workers.

Robotbeat · « **Reply #113 on:** 09/20/2023 01:09 am »

Vimeo is better than Twitter, Facebook, Threads, and arguably even better than Youtube.

tyrred · « **Reply #114 on:** 09/20/2023 03:07 am »

Quote from: Robotbeat on 09/20/2023 01:09 am

Vimeo is better than Twitter, Facebook, Threads, and arguably even better than Youtube.

Objectively, how?

edkyle99 · « **Reply #115 on:** 09/20/2023 03:33 am »

Quote from: alugobi on 09/19/2023 10:29 pm

Good. Hoping NSF contributors who use it as their go-to begin to rethink, and find another venue for sharing their work. I don't know what that is, but twitter is getting no clicks from me, and I DO want to see your work photogs.

Here's the problem. SpaceX has shifted to X for hosting its launch webcasts. If this happens, I presume you don't see SpaceX launches unless you pay going forward.

- Ed Kyle

alugobi · « **Reply #116 on:** 09/20/2023 03:37 am »

Yeah. They've already lost me as one of the audience by leaving YouTube. I'll follow vicariously through Pietrobon's summaries.

catdlr · « **Reply #117 on:** 09/20/2023 03:44 am »

Quote from: alugobi on 09/20/2023 03:37 am

Yeah. They've already lost me as one of the audience by leaving YouTube. I'll follow vicariously through Pietrobon's summaries.

and I'll continue to post the latest playback from SpaceDeck when they release it from their re-broadcast.

rokan2003 · « **Reply #118 on:** 09/20/2023 05:45 am »

Quote from: edkyle99 on 09/19/2023 06:06 pm

Elon suggesting that X may switch to a paywall. Will Spacex launch webcasts then be available only to subscribers?

- Ed Kyle

Per X Community Notes, this reporting is incorrect. Musk was talking about introducing a new lower-priced tier of X Premium, not contemplating taking the entire site behind a pay wall.

ZachS09 · « **Reply #119 on:** 09/20/2023 06:01 am »

Quote from: rokan2003 on 09/20/2023 05:45 am

Quote from: edkyle99 on 09/19/2023 06:06 pm
Elon suggesting that X may switch to a paywall. Will Spacex launch webcasts then be available only to subscribers?

- Ed Kyle
Per X Community Notes, this reporting is incorrect. Musk was talking about introducing a new lower-priced tier of X Premium, not contemplating taking the entire site behind a pay wall.

*sighs with relief* Thank God for that. I’m a regular X member, so I don’t have to worry about the Premium side.