Quote from: Kansan52 on 04/10/2024 05:44 pmWould it still fit the VAB?The one in the video would have. It's some 24 feet taller than the Saturn V, so 387 feet tall. The VAB doors are 456 feet tall, having been sized to accommodate the Nova.
Would it still fit the VAB?
Boeing Rocket ConceptsHazegrayart26 Apr 2024#boeing #nasaThe Boeing X-20 Dyna-Soar ("Dynamic Soarer") was a United States Air Force (USAF) program to develop a spaceplane that could be used for a variety of military missions, including aerial reconnaissance, bombing, space rescue, satellite maintenance, and as a space interceptor to sabotage enemy satellites.Full Video: • The Boeing X-20 Dyna-S... Boeing doublebody, winged booster, known as Model 832-40made use of a Dyna-Soar glider as the crew module and escape capsule.Full Video: • Boeing Recoverable Lau... Boeing 1968 study, four improved Saturn S-IC first stage stretched TO 498 inches with 6.64 million pounds propellant and 5 F-1 engines each and 4 S-II second stage with 5 J-2 enginesand a payload shroud of 86.5 feet in diameter and 240 feet long for a payload of over 1 million poundsFull Video: • Saturn V-4X(U) 1 Milli... Boeing's 4 Million lbs Payload Rocket (LMLV) Large Multipurpose Launch Vehicle Concept. Ten 372-inch solid motors would have resulted in a payload up to 4.2 million pounds Full Video: • Boeing's 4 Million lbs... Boeing's Low cost Heavy Lift Vehicle Concept VTVL SSTO RLV was part of the company's NASA-funded Solar Powersat Studies in 1976-77. Known as "The Big Onion"Full Video: • Boeing's Low cost Heav... The Boeing Space Freighter was a 1970′s designed fully reusable 420 Ton Payload Rocket System to construct the Solar Power Satellite Array to beam energy down to earth Full Video: • Boeing Space Freighter... SRB-X has often been called "The single worst shuttle-derived launcher ever proposed."Full Video: • Boeing's SRB-X Space S... #boeing #nasa
The Boeing X-20 Dyna-Soar ("Dynamic Soarer") was a United States Air Force (USAF) program to develop a spaceplane that could be used for a variety of military missions, including aerial reconnaissance, bombing, space rescue, satellite maintenance, and as a space interceptor to sabotage enemy satellites.
Feb 14, 2024The Boeing doublebody, winged booster, known as Model 832-40made use of a Dyna-Soar glider as the crew module and escape capsule.Powered by twin clusters made up of 4 Rocketdyne J-2B rocket engines for vertical boost and 3 hydrogen-fueled, General Electric MF239C Turbofan engines for horizontal flight and landing. Designed for use with a variety of upper stages
Jun 17, 2022Boeing 1968 study, four improved Saturn S-IC first stage stretched TO 498 inches with 6.64 million pounds propellant and 5 F-1 engines each and 4 S-II second stage with 5 J-2 enginesand a payload shroud of 86.5 feet in diameter and 240 feet long for a payload of over 1 million pounds
Feb 10, 2020A 1968 NASA-sponsored study of a large multipurpose launch conceptA potential application of this launch vehicle concept is for launching future manned interplanetary, extended lunar, and large space station payloads. For many missions, the payload versatility of the launch vehicle system could be used to orbit the total payload requirements in a single launch, obviating the need for orbital assembly. Previous mission analysis information indicated that a payload capability from one to four million pounds to low earth orbit would adequately cover the range of these mission requirementsThe concept is a "building-block'' vehicle system that features a main stage capable of single- stage-to-orbit operation and add-on stages, either boost assist or upper stages, that afford a broad range of payload capability.Ten 372-inch solid motors would have resulted in a payload up to 4.2 million pounds REFERENCESCONCEPT FOR A LARGE MULTIPURPOSE LAUNCH VEHICLE By Edward W. Gomersall: Research ScientistJohn G. Brunk: Advanced Vehicle System Manager, Launch Systems Branch, Space Division, The Boeing Company.
Mar 5, 2022The Boeing Space Freighter was a 1970′s design fully reusable 420 Ton Payload Rocket System to construct the Solar Power Satellite Array to beam energy down to earth Booster Wingspan 80 MetersHeight 154 MetersDiameter 18.5 Meters
Dec 26, 2022Boeing's Low cost Heavy Lift Vehicle Concept VTVL SSTO RLV was part of the company's NASA-funded Solar Powersat Studies in 1976-77. Known as "The Big Onion" it utilized twenty-four 4.5MN oxygen-hydrogen main engines plus twenty-four 2.25MN lox-kerosene booster engines to generate a thrust-to-weight ratio at liftoff of 1.3. with 227 tonne payload capacityLeo’s base heat shield would be water-cooled and the engine nozzles were to be protected by steam ejection.
Mar 22, 2021Source:SRB-X SHUTTLE DERIVED VEHICLE ANALYSISSOLID BOOSTER UNMANNED LAUNCH VEHICLECONCEPT DEFINITION STUDYVolume IITECHNICAL REPORTDISO-27351-2February 1983Contract NASS-34722Submitted to The National Aeronautics and Space AdministrationGeorge. C. Marshall Space Flight Center byBoeing Aerospace CompanySeattle, Washington 98124The SRB-X study was initiated by NASA in response to preliminary investigationsthat suggested future launch requirements could best be satisfied by a mixed fleet ofmanned and unmanned launch vehicles. Manned requirements are expected to be met bythe space shuttle, at least to the turn of the century, but requirements for the unmannedvehicle are not specific at this time. The following, however, represent potential uses orbenefits that indicate, when viewed collectively, that an unmanned vehicle could be avaluable addition to the space transportation system (STS). Such a vehicle coulda. Provide shuttle contingency or backup in the event of an out-of-service orbiter, amajor accident, or failure to achieve acceptable turnaround time.b. Deliver payloads that exceed the size and mass constraints imposed by theshuttle.C. Free the shuttle for missions unique to its capabilities, thus extending the life ofthe orbiter fleet.d. Supplement the shuttle flight rate in the event launch needs increase appreciably.e. Deliver cargo considered hazardous or presenting additional risk to the shuttle.The SRB-X is one of several shuttle-derived vehicle (SDV) concepts being considered for the unmanned launch vehicle role. The distinguishing feature of the concept isthat, to the greatest extent possible, primary propulsion would use the space shuttle'ssolid rocket motors (SRM), boosters, or derivatives rather than the LO2/LH2 main propulsion system.
McDonnell Douglas X-33 SSTO Reusable Launch Vehicle11 May 2024Single-Stage-To-Orbit (SSTO) Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV). McDonnell Douglas submitted a vertical landing configuration design which used liquid oxygen/hydrogen engines. NASA considered design submissions from Rockwell, Lockheed Martin, and McDonnell Douglas. NASA selected Lockheed Martin’s X-33 design on 2 July 1996. The RLV technology program was a cooperative agreement between NASA and industry. The goal of the RLV technology program was to produce significant reductions in the cost of access to space, and to promote the creation and delivery of new space services and other activities that would have improve U.S. economic competitiveness.
May 28, 2024At the 2010 AIAA Joint Propulsion conference, SpaceX presented potential designs for future heavy and super-heavy lift vehicles.Falcon XX is a single core launch vehicle with a diameter of 10 meters and an estimated length of about 100 meters using six Merlin 2 engines operating at the 100% thrust setting on its first stage creating a liftoff thrust of 45,360 Kilonewtons (4,625 metric tons).
The Conroy Virtus Designed by John M. Conroy of the Turbo-Three Corporation incorporate a pair of Boeing B-52 Stratofortress fuselages to form a new craft using existing parts for cost-savings.The Lockeed Twin Galaxy featured two C-5 Galaxy's with six engines to cradle the orbiter between twin fuselages
QuoteThe Conroy Virtus Designed by John M. Conroy of the Turbo-Three Corporation incorporate a pair of Boeing B-52 Stratofortress fuselages to form a new craft using existing parts for cost-savings.The Lockeed Twin Galaxy featured two C-5 Galaxy's with six engines to cradle the orbiter between twin fuselages
You are certainly right - but the sheer attractivity of it was the elimination of the mate/demate device... just roll the orbiter under the central wing, attach, and fly away.
Quote from: Spiceman on 06/19/2024 03:51 pmYou are certainly right - but the sheer attractivity of it was the elimination of the mate/demate device... just roll the orbiter under the central wing, attach, and fly away. Attach to what? Did the Shuttle have hard-points on the top that it could be suspended by?[Edit: In the video, the two designs seemed to use completely different attachment points on the Orbiter. But I don't know how much of that is artistic guesswork.]
Quote from: Paul451 on 06/19/2024 06:50 pmQuote from: Spiceman on 06/19/2024 03:51 pmYou are certainly right - but the sheer attractivity of it was the elimination of the mate/demate device... just roll the orbiter under the central wing, attach, and fly away. Attach to what? Did the Shuttle have hard-points on the top that it could be suspended by?[Edit: In the video, the two designs seemed to use completely different attachment points on the Orbiter. But I don't know how much of that is artistic guesswork.]The orbiter had hard points for stacking. If you search on [STS VAB MATE], various resources will be found. I wouldn't presume that the as-built points were rated for flight transport, but they would have been if either of these carrier schemes had gone forward.
