I ran my model yesterday and got an estimate of 97 launches this year. The delays this month are hurting the average. But partly that’s a temporary thing due to Psyche.
Not to pour RP-1 on the fire, but.... -SLC-40 is trending toward 53 launches-SLC-4E is trending towards 27 launches-LC-40 if we squint and look at it sideways. 15?Total: 95, so 5 short....
Pent-up launches from delaying launches until Psyche goes because of weird analysis rules by NASA. Not a long term thing.
October is now 5 launches down and at least 5 more planned.They need 10/month to hit 100 and this looks more likely as time goes on IMHO.
So is SpaceX going to have holiday no launch periods for Christmas and New Year for 2023?Or are we going to see Falcon 9 on a pad or several pads during the final minutes of 2023 for the push to 100 launches.
Quote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 05:37 pmQuote from: eeergo on 09/04/2023 05:14 pmQuote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 04:58 pmFor what it's worth, I found a "show R2" button on the charts.For the exponential trend line it is 0.663 and for the linear trend it is 0.673 which (I think) means that the linear trend is a slightly better fit (?)I also tried going (yearly not monthly) back to 2012, and can get an exponential trend line with an annual growth of 34% out of it (significantly less than the 55% that best matches the current year) and an R2 of 0.949; the linear trend gives negative launch rates in 2012 & 2013, so I'm not sure it is valuable.That's it: the annual launch rate is compatible with a linear trend, within the noise, and has been so in recent years. An exponential trend is also compatible but slightly worse and with a very small exponent (i.e. approaching linear).Moreover, the fine-tuning necessary to avoid over/under-shooting of an exponential function is much stronger, while multi-year-fitting exponentials that cover a few years back don't predict close to 100 launches this year, plus require piecemeal treatment of certain periods or tampering with the slope in approximately-yearly periods to fit the data well enough and not explode toward unfeasible values (like the linear trend does too, but subject to more error in case of inaccuracies in the fit).The overall historical launch trend, while still noisy, is much more clearly exponential, as a simple visual inspection clearly tells you - although in reality it will taper off at some "saturation" value achieving something like a sigmoid, at least in the medium term.The thing is, it looks like the growth is accelerating, not tapering off. From 2012 to 2022 it was trending at 35% a year.From 2021 to 2023 it has been trending at 55% a year.Is it common to see exponential growth turn into linear growth at a higher rate than it was while exponential?Data can be noisy year to year.Here’s what SpaceX dV adjusted payload growth looks like:2008: 1792009: 2172010: 9,7342011: 02012: 14,8962013: 16,9382014: 47,0002015: 42,0242016: 69,3802017: 174,9652018: 184,8352019: 151,6742020: 333,1412021: 409,9222022: 778,7872023ytd: 887,136SpaceX is on pace for 1,300t+ adjusted payload mass this year, already ahead of last year with ~four months to go. To provide more context with this, the cumulative total for the entire European space industry since its first launch is 3,224t, and the Chinese total is 2,241t (SpaceX is now 3,121t). The previous record tonnage in a year was 608t by the USSR in 1988.Tonnage will be a better barometer than launches as the switch to Starship happens… as impressive as projected SpaceX’s massive 1,300t total for 2023 is, that’s only like a dozen Starship launches. We may be soon coming to a point where SpaceX is lifting as much quarterly as the entire combined launch histories of Chinese or European space industries…
Quote from: eeergo on 09/04/2023 05:14 pmQuote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 04:58 pmFor what it's worth, I found a "show R2" button on the charts.For the exponential trend line it is 0.663 and for the linear trend it is 0.673 which (I think) means that the linear trend is a slightly better fit (?)I also tried going (yearly not monthly) back to 2012, and can get an exponential trend line with an annual growth of 34% out of it (significantly less than the 55% that best matches the current year) and an R2 of 0.949; the linear trend gives negative launch rates in 2012 & 2013, so I'm not sure it is valuable.That's it: the annual launch rate is compatible with a linear trend, within the noise, and has been so in recent years. An exponential trend is also compatible but slightly worse and with a very small exponent (i.e. approaching linear).Moreover, the fine-tuning necessary to avoid over/under-shooting of an exponential function is much stronger, while multi-year-fitting exponentials that cover a few years back don't predict close to 100 launches this year, plus require piecemeal treatment of certain periods or tampering with the slope in approximately-yearly periods to fit the data well enough and not explode toward unfeasible values (like the linear trend does too, but subject to more error in case of inaccuracies in the fit).The overall historical launch trend, while still noisy, is much more clearly exponential, as a simple visual inspection clearly tells you - although in reality it will taper off at some "saturation" value achieving something like a sigmoid, at least in the medium term.The thing is, it looks like the growth is accelerating, not tapering off. From 2012 to 2022 it was trending at 35% a year.From 2021 to 2023 it has been trending at 55% a year.Is it common to see exponential growth turn into linear growth at a higher rate than it was while exponential?
Quote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 04:58 pmFor what it's worth, I found a "show R2" button on the charts.For the exponential trend line it is 0.663 and for the linear trend it is 0.673 which (I think) means that the linear trend is a slightly better fit (?)I also tried going (yearly not monthly) back to 2012, and can get an exponential trend line with an annual growth of 34% out of it (significantly less than the 55% that best matches the current year) and an R2 of 0.949; the linear trend gives negative launch rates in 2012 & 2013, so I'm not sure it is valuable.That's it: the annual launch rate is compatible with a linear trend, within the noise, and has been so in recent years. An exponential trend is also compatible but slightly worse and with a very small exponent (i.e. approaching linear).Moreover, the fine-tuning necessary to avoid over/under-shooting of an exponential function is much stronger, while multi-year-fitting exponentials that cover a few years back don't predict close to 100 launches this year, plus require piecemeal treatment of certain periods or tampering with the slope in approximately-yearly periods to fit the data well enough and not explode toward unfeasible values (like the linear trend does too, but subject to more error in case of inaccuracies in the fit).The overall historical launch trend, while still noisy, is much more clearly exponential, as a simple visual inspection clearly tells you - although in reality it will taper off at some "saturation" value achieving something like a sigmoid, at least in the medium term.
For what it's worth, I found a "show R2" button on the charts.For the exponential trend line it is 0.663 and for the linear trend it is 0.673 which (I think) means that the linear trend is a slightly better fit (?)I also tried going (yearly not monthly) back to 2012, and can get an exponential trend line with an annual growth of 34% out of it (significantly less than the 55% that best matches the current year) and an R2 of 0.949; the linear trend gives negative launch rates in 2012 & 2013, so I'm not sure it is valuable.
Quote from: ZachF on 09/05/2023 01:48 pmQuote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 05:37 pmQuote from: eeergo on 09/04/2023 05:14 pmQuote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 04:58 pmFor what it's worth, I found a "show R2" button on the charts.For the exponential trend line it is 0.663 and for the linear trend it is 0.673 which (I think) means that the linear trend is a slightly better fit (?)I also tried going (yearly not monthly) back to 2012, and can get an exponential trend line with an annual growth of 34% out of it (significantly less than the 55% that best matches the current year) and an R2 of 0.949; the linear trend gives negative launch rates in 2012 & 2013, so I'm not sure it is valuable.That's it: the annual launch rate is compatible with a linear trend, within the noise, and has been so in recent years. An exponential trend is also compatible but slightly worse and with a very small exponent (i.e. approaching linear).Moreover, the fine-tuning necessary to avoid over/under-shooting of an exponential function is much stronger, while multi-year-fitting exponentials that cover a few years back don't predict close to 100 launches this year, plus require piecemeal treatment of certain periods or tampering with the slope in approximately-yearly periods to fit the data well enough and not explode toward unfeasible values (like the linear trend does too, but subject to more error in case of inaccuracies in the fit).The overall historical launch trend, while still noisy, is much more clearly exponential, as a simple visual inspection clearly tells you - although in reality it will taper off at some "saturation" value achieving something like a sigmoid, at least in the medium term.The thing is, it looks like the growth is accelerating, not tapering off. From 2012 to 2022 it was trending at 35% a year.From 2021 to 2023 it has been trending at 55% a year.Is it common to see exponential growth turn into linear growth at a higher rate than it was while exponential?Data can be noisy year to year.Here’s what SpaceX dV adjusted payload growth looks like:2008: 1792009: 2172010: 9,7342011: 02012: 14,8962013: 16,9382014: 47,0002015: 42,0242016: 69,3802017: 174,9652018: 184,8352019: 151,6742020: 333,1412021: 409,9222022: 778,7872023ytd: 887,136SpaceX is on pace for 1,300t+ adjusted payload mass this year, already ahead of last year with ~four months to go. To provide more context with this, the cumulative total for the entire European space industry since its first launch is 3,224t, and the Chinese total is 2,241t (SpaceX is now 3,121t). The previous record tonnage in a year was 608t by the USSR in 1988.Tonnage will be a better barometer than launches as the switch to Starship happens… as impressive as projected SpaceX’s massive 1,300t total for 2023 is, that’s only like a dozen Starship launches. We may be soon coming to a point where SpaceX is lifting as much quarterly as the entire combined launch histories of Chinese or European space industries… Where do these tonnage numbers come from? Is there some site/database where one can view them? Because if there is, then you are my best friend and whoever compiled this data and made it available is my new deity of choice (meritocratic theology)! Please say "YES!".
Quote from: EnigmaSCADA on 10/18/2023 10:14 pmQuote from: ZachF on 09/05/2023 01:48 pmQuote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 05:37 pmQuote from: eeergo on 09/04/2023 05:14 pmQuote from: steveleach on 09/04/2023 04:58 pmFor what it's worth, I found a "show R2" button on the charts.For the exponential trend line it is 0.663 and for the linear trend it is 0.673 which (I think) means that the linear trend is a slightly better fit (?)I also tried going (yearly not monthly) back to 2012, and can get an exponential trend line with an annual growth of 34% out of it (significantly less than the 55% that best matches the current year) and an R2 of 0.949; the linear trend gives negative launch rates in 2012 & 2013, so I'm not sure it is valuable.That's it: the annual launch rate is compatible with a linear trend, within the noise, and has been so in recent years. An exponential trend is also compatible but slightly worse and with a very small exponent (i.e. approaching linear).Moreover, the fine-tuning necessary to avoid over/under-shooting of an exponential function is much stronger, while multi-year-fitting exponentials that cover a few years back don't predict close to 100 launches this year, plus require piecemeal treatment of certain periods or tampering with the slope in approximately-yearly periods to fit the data well enough and not explode toward unfeasible values (like the linear trend does too, but subject to more error in case of inaccuracies in the fit).The overall historical launch trend, while still noisy, is much more clearly exponential, as a simple visual inspection clearly tells you - although in reality it will taper off at some "saturation" value achieving something like a sigmoid, at least in the medium term.The thing is, it looks like the growth is accelerating, not tapering off. From 2012 to 2022 it was trending at 35% a year.From 2021 to 2023 it has been trending at 55% a year.Is it common to see exponential growth turn into linear growth at a higher rate than it was while exponential?Data can be noisy year to year.Here’s what SpaceX dV adjusted payload growth looks like:2008: 1792009: 2172010: 9,7342011: 02012: 14,8962013: 16,9382014: 47,0002015: 42,0242016: 69,3802017: 174,9652018: 184,8352019: 151,6742020: 333,1412021: 409,9222022: 778,7872023ytd: 887,136SpaceX is on pace for 1,300t+ adjusted payload mass this year, already ahead of last year with ~four months to go. To provide more context with this, the cumulative total for the entire European space industry since its first launch is 3,224t, and the Chinese total is 2,241t (SpaceX is now 3,121t). The previous record tonnage in a year was 608t by the USSR in 1988.Tonnage will be a better barometer than launches as the switch to Starship happens… as impressive as projected SpaceX’s massive 1,300t total for 2023 is, that’s only like a dozen Starship launches. We may be soon coming to a point where SpaceX is lifting as much quarterly as the entire combined launch histories of Chinese or European space industries… Where do these tonnage numbers come from? Is there some site/database where one can view them? Because if there is, then you are my best friend and whoever compiled this data and made it available is my new deity of choice (meritocratic theology)! Please say "YES!".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches
For what it's worth, this is what those tonnage numbers look like, with an exponential trend fitted by Google Sheets.If anyone knows what the trend equation "3166e^0.395x" means, I'd love an explanation.
Quote from: steveleach on 10/19/2023 05:01 pmFor what it's worth, this is what those tonnage numbers look like, with an exponential trend fitted by Google Sheets.If anyone knows what the trend equation "3166e^0.395x" means, I'd love an explanation.I read it as:Y = 3166 * e0.395 * Xand eyeballing it, it looks like X = year-2008I get:2020: 362298.68252021: 537790.43672022: 798287.62232023: 1184965.526which looks consistent with the fitted curve on the graph.