Author Topic: Firefly Alpha FLTA005 : ELaNa 43 : VSFB SLC-2W : 04 July 2024 (04:03 UTC)  (Read 35895 times)

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This NGA notice is just a generic Hazardous Operations notice, but it looks like it is probably for this Firefly launch.

Quote from: NGA
220124Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 456/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 270333Z TO 270517Z JUN, ALTERNATE
      280333Z TO 280517Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 270333Z TO 270520Z JUN, ALTERNATE
      280333Z TO 280520Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 280620Z JUN 24.

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Has there been any mention of the orbital parameters?

How about this?

Quote from: NGA
210933Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 450/24(GEN).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
ALASKA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS:
   A. 260810Z TO 260912Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      21-16.00N 122-22.00W, 18-25.00N 118-33.00W,
      05-04.00S 136-09.00W, 02-22.00S 139-54.00W
   B. 271530Z TO 271645Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      49-12.00N 132-49.00W, 47-00.00N 134-15.00W,
      50-41.00N 170-48.00W, 52-03.00N 170-59.00W,
      53-10.00N 166-40.00W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 271745Z JUN 24.//

202327Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 454/24(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   260810Z TO 260911Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 134-45.00W, 03-30.00N 129-50.00W,
   05-03.00S 136-10.00W, 02-47.00S 139-19.00W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261011Z JUN 24.

The timing is off: the two earliest windows here indicate an orbital pass (equatorial Pacific) at 6/26 0801Z whereas Firefly has announced a launch window of 6/27 0400Z - 0430Z. Perhaps these zones were submitted before Firefly settled on 6/26 at 9 pm PDT.

All three zones appear consistent with roughly 128 deg inclination, and that seems in-family with previous Firefly launches. But I don't know whether there's one orbit that links all three zones and the hypothetical launch track (dashed line, fiddled to look OK). 
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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1805320109944095043

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The Firefly team is gearing up for another responsive space demonstration for Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseofSummer, launching NET June 26. Many of our final launch operations kick off less than 24 hours of the scheduled liftoff. Well share a recap of the operations during our livestream with @NASASpaceflight. More on the mission here: https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/.
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Press kit seems to suggest a single second stage burn to orbit, but payload deployment after 44 minutes.

 - Ed Kyle
« Last Edit: 06/25/2024 12:44 am by edkyle99 »

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Press kit seems to suggest a single second stage burn to orbit, but payload deployment after 44 minutes.

 - Ed Kyle

Yes, I was wondering about that. Perhaps there's a second burn that was omitted from the kit?
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Launch time clarification:
NextSpaceflight, updated June 25:
04:03 UTC
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Interestingly https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp is showing the launch to have slipped all the way to July 2nd UTC/July 1st PDT, but I don't see anything on Firefly Space's mission page or NASA's Small Satellites Mission Blog.

FIREFLY FLT005 VCLS-2, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   07/02/24   0403Z-0521Z
BACKUP:      07/03/24   0403Z-0521Z
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Interestingly https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp is showing the launch to have slipped all the way to July 2nd UTC/July 1st PDT, but I don't see anything on Firefly Space's mission page or NASA's Small Satellites Mission Blog.

FIREFLY FLT005 VCLS-2, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   07/02/24   0403Z-0521Z
BACKUP:      07/03/24   0403Z-0521Z


The NGA Hazardous Operations notice has been canceled TBD.

Quote from: NGA
252250Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 461/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
CANCEL NAVAREA XII 456/24,
OPERATIONS POSTPONED.

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https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1806041131827831019

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As we enter the launch window for Alpha #FLTA005, we've determined the optimal days for liftoff are between June 30 and July 1. Stay tuned for more details. Our Alpha rocket, @nasa payloads, and launch crew stand ready to bring the #NoiseofSummer.

And indeed June 30 PDT/July 1 UTC is now listed as an option here.

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FIREFLY FLT005 VCLS-2, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   07/01/24   0403Z-0521Z
BACKUP:      07/02/24   0403Z-0521Z

And Firefly's mission page lists launch time as 9:03 pm PDT June 30 = 04:03 UTC July 1.
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Two NGA generic Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices.

Quote from: NGA
271911Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 469/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 020621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
271911Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2237/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 020621Z JUL 24.

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https://twitter.com/harry__stranger/status/1806471666694033541

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Satellite imagery shows @Firefly_Space's Alpha rocket on the launch pad at Vandenberg a few days ago ahead of the Noise of Summer mission in the coming days.

As well as an update on the status of Space Launch Complex 6 soon to be taken over by SpaceX.

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Both images are available on @Soar_Earth so you can compare changes to old imagery 🛰️

SLC-2W: https://soar.earth/maps/23249
SLC-6: https://soar.earth/maps/23250

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Two cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices.

July 3 has been added as an additional date.

Quote from: NGA
281558Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 473/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL,
   ALTERNATE 03 JUL:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W, 35-09.00N 120-53.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 469/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
281558Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2246/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL,
   ALTERNATE 03 JUL:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W, 35-09.00N 120-53.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2237/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.

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Mark your calendars for Alpha #FLTA005, officially scheduled to launch July 1 at 9:03 pm PDT. If youre on the West Coast, this night launch may light up your sky, so be sure to tag Firefly with your best shots and use #NoiseofSummer.

https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/

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Two cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices, for the postponement from July 1 UTC to July 2 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 480/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 473/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2258/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2246/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.

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Ready to make some noise? Its L-1 for Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseofSummer, a mission for @NASA VCLS. The weather is GO for launch from @SLDelta30 at 9:03 pm PDT tomorrow. Livestream co-hosted with @NASAspaceflight will begin at T-30 minutes to liftoff.

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Repeating my question:
Has there been any mention of the orbital parameters?
At least an estimated orbital inclination?

Two cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices, for the postponement from July 1 UTC to July 2 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 480/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 473/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2258/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2246/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
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NSF webcast (video id 28SCSyMUKMw), should be identical to the Firefly webcast given above.


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Is this going to dawn-dusk SSO?  One of the payloads had something on their web page about always being in sunlight, but those university pages are often aspirational and badly out of date.

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The Firefly crew is moving fast for Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseofSummer! Conducted as another rapid launch operation, we successfully transported the payload fairing to the pad and mated it to our rocket within just 14 hours of the scheduled liftoff on track for 9:03 pm PDT. Get more details on the mission for @NASA VCLS here: https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/

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Happy launch day y'all! Alpha #FLTA005 now stands ready to fly 8 @NASA CubeSats. Weather is green and the team is on track for liftoff from @SLDelta30 at 9:03 pm PDT. Livestream with @Nasaspaceflight will begin at T-30 minutes to launch. Get notified here: youtube.com/watch?v=F6nYZE
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