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Discussion thread for Firefly Aerospace's fifth fourth mission with its Alpha rocket "FLTA005" "FLTA004".

Mission: VCLS Demo-2FB (ELaNa 43)

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Any new news?
Last I heard, the launch is scheduled for April, still awaiting completion of acceptance testing to send the vehicle to Vandenberg.
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Livestream for Alpha first stage static fire test
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https://twitter.com/adamcuker/status/1629677820782731269

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FireFly performed a static test fire of their Alpha booster this afternoon.

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https://twitter.com/thefavoritist/status/1630221466297053186

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Firefly tested its Alpha first stage booster for their upcoming FLTA003 mission. The burn lasted 42 seconds and was successful.

Video from Adam Cuker (@AdamCuker).

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Our team completed engine and stage testing on another Alpha rocket, and we are GO for launch integration. Firefly’s in-house, “test what we fly” approach further ensures mission success.
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Flight 4 and 3 swapped; announced March 20.
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Per https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/06/firefly-launching-space-force-high-speed-victus-nox-mission.html this launch is scheduled 2 months after the VICTUS NOX launch, i.e. NET July 2023.
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Given:
Per https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/06/firefly-launching-space-force-high-speed-victus-nox-mission.html this launch is scheduled 2 months after the VICTUS NOX launch, i.e. NET July 2023.

And now:
NextSpaceflight, updated May 24:
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VICTUS NOX (TacRS-3)
Launch Time
NET June 2023

Therefore, launch is now NET August.
NextSpaceflight, updated May 24:
VCLS Demo-2FB (ELaNa 43) launch NET August 2023
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1109-EX-ST-2023
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This STA is necessary to authorize launch vehicle communications for Firefly’s VCLS-2 mission from Vandenberg Space Force Base SLC-2. This includes a suborbital first stage and an orbital second stage. All downrange Earth stations are receive-only. This STA replaces 1914-EX-ST-2022, an extension of 0906-EX-ST-2022, which covers operations through 01JUL2023. This new STA accounts for delays in planned launch which was intended to occur prior to July 2023, which now is planned for August 2023.

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Plug in your headphones because all four of our Reaver engines have been acceptance tested for Alpha FLTA004 with @NASA Stay tuned for more updates as we get closer to launch. https://fireflyspace.com/missions/nasa-elana-43/

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Given:
Per https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/06/firefly-launching-space-force-high-speed-victus-nox-mission.html this launch is scheduled 2 months after the VICTUS NOX launch [May 2023], i.e. NET July 2023.

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The company is under contract to launch a Space Force mission called “Victus Nox” sometime this summer . . .
https://spacenews.com/firefly-to-launch-lockheed-martin-small-satellite-experiment/ [Jun 29]
= NET July

Therefore, launch is NET September.
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VICTUS NOX (flight 3) launched September 15 UTC; this is the next scheduled launch.
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This STA is necessary to authorize launch vehicle communications for Firefly’s VCLS-2 mission from Vandenberg Space Force Base SLC-2. This includes a suborbital first stage and an orbital second stage. All downrange Earth stations are receive-only. This STA replaces 1109-EX-ST-2023 which covers operations through 01JAN2024. This new STA accounts for delays in planned launch which was intended to occur prior to July 2023, which now is planned for March 2024.

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So, they've already finished orbital launches this year?

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Scheduled:
Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2024
NET November 2023  March - VCLS (VADR) Demo-2FB/ELaNa 43: CatSat, KUbe-Sat-1, MESAT1, R5-S4, R5-S2-2.0, REAL, Serenity (3), SOC-i, TechEdSat-11 (TES-11) - Firefly Alpha (FLTA004) - Vandenberg SLC-2W (or NLT July)

NET March - OTB 2 (Orbital Test Bed-2) - Firefly Alpha - Vandenberg SLC-2W

NET March - EOS SAR 1 - Firefly Alpha - Vandenberg SLC-2W

NET October 2023  Q1 - Tantrum - Firefly Alpha - Vandenberg SLC-2W

Q1 - iSIM-SAT - Firefly Alpha - Vandenberg SLC-2W / Canaveral SLC-20

Q2 - TBD - Firefly Beta - Canaveral SLC-20

NET    January   Q2 - SUV demo mission, FANTM Ride - Firefly Alpha (FLTA005?) - Vandenberg SLC-2W

NET  December 2023  Q2 - Spaceflight Inc. multi satellite launch - Firefly Alpha - Vandenberg SLC-2W

Q4 - TBD - Firefly Beta - Vandenberg SLC-2E

TBD - Firefly Alpha - Lockheed Martin mission - Firefly Alpha - TBD
TBD - TBD - Firefly Alpha - Canaveral SLC-20
TBD - TBD - Firefly Alpha - Canaveral SLC-20

Changes on October 13th

Edit: (Probably) not.  See new thread: Firefly Alpha : Flight 4 : Tantrum, et al : VSFB SLC-2W : NET Q4 2023
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Bump/any new news?
I performed a brief internet search and found nothing new.
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Taking a visit to @Firefly_Space manufacturing facilities in Texas today. One of our first stops is vehicle integration. This vehicle is preparing to support the NASA ELaNa 43 mission.

Firefly plans to launch 4 times this year and then 6-8 times in 2025.

https://twitter.com/w_robinsonsmith/status/1762925601566990829



NextSpaceflight (Updated February 29th)
Launch NET May 2024
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6865
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Now scheduled for June, payload integration is underway:

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Congratulations to the CatSat team for a successful satellite integration at Vandenberg Space Force Base. Next step: orbit!
May 6, 2024

At dawn on April 24, 2024, a student-led team from the University of Arizona climbed into a vehicle headed 660 miles across state lines to Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. In their possession: a hand-built satellite the size of a cereal box. CatSat, a type of nanosatellite know as a CubeSat, is the first student-led satellite mission at UArizona. On Tuesday, the team integrated their satellite into the Firefly Alpha rocket that will launch it into orbit sometime in June.

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They filed another permit extension request but forgot to update most of the text.  It says an extension may be necessary, and has a July 1 start date for the new permit (which should be when the last permit runs out)

1012-EX-ST-2024

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Still no news on this launch right now, and there's this extension application of the FCC license all the way to the end of year:

https://twitter.com/fccspace/status/1800919775175938231
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License granted: Firefly Aerospace, Inc.
Dates: 07/01/2024-01/01/2025
Purpose: Launch vehicle communication for Firefly Alpha mission VCLS-2.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current??application_seq=134399
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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1800973995765870973

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Get your sunglasses on for our FLTA005 "Noise of Summer" mission patch!

Alpha is on the pad at @SLDelta30 and all 8 payloads are integrated in our processing facility. Stay tuned for more details on the upcoming @NASA VCLS Demo 2 mission, supporting the CubeSat Launch Initiative for students and educators across the country.

https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/ #NoiseOfSummer
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Hoping for a successful mission this time around. Firefly needs a solid performance with FLTA005, given that only one out of the four launches has been 100% successful.

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Get your sunglasses on for our FLTA005 "Noise of Summer" mission patch!

Alpha is on the pad at @SLDelta30 and all 8 payloads are integrated in our processing facility. Stay tuned for more details on the upcoming @NASA VCLS Demo 2 mission, supporting the CubeSat Launch Initiative for students and educators across the country.

https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/ #NoiseOfSummer
[Jun 12]

Upcoming ELaNa launches, as of April 2024
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Eight payloads, but nine satellites on the ELaNa list?
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Eight payloads, but nine satellites on the ELaNa list?

The list is from April and thus a bit out of date. Compared to the NASA ELaNa manifest below (updated on 17 June) it looks like OwlSat has been bumped.

https://www.nasa.gov/upcoming-elana-cubesat-launches/
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Eight payloads, but nine satellites on the ELaNa list?
The list is from April and thus a bit out of date. Compared to the NASA ELaNa manifest below (updated on 17 June) it looks like OwlSat has been bumped.

https://www.nasa.gov/upcoming-elana-cubesat-launches/
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ELaNa 43

[Eight] Ten CubeSats to launch on a demonstration mission:

CatSat (6U) – University of Arizona, Tucson, Ariz.
KUbeSat-1 (3U) – University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kan.
MESAT-1 (3U) – University of Maine, Orono, Maine
R5-S2-2.0 (6U) – NASA’s Johnson Space Center, Houston, Texas
R5-S4 (6U) – NASA’s Johnson Space Center, Houston, Texas
Serenity (3U) – Teachers in Space, Nanuet, N.Y.
SOC-I (2U) – University of Washington, Seattle, Wash.
TechEdSat-11 (6U) – NASA’s Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif.
This most recently removed payload is REAL.

OwlSat was bumped in 2022.
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This most recently removed payload is REAL.

OwlSat was bumped in 2022.

Reference? OwlSat was still on the NASA ELaNa manifest as of 5 May 2024.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240505163611/https://www.nasa.gov/upcoming-elana-cubesat-launches/
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This most recently removed payload is REAL.
OwlSat was bumped in 2022.
Reference?

Found it.
Revision of ELaNa 43 payloads aboard Alpha 3rd flight, published December 1:
https://www.nasa.gov/content/upcoming-elana-cubesat-launches
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ELaNa 43
Nine CubeSat missions scheduled to be deployed

    CatSat - University of Arizona, Tucson, Ariz.
    KUbe-Sat-1 - University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kan.
    MESAT1 - University of Maine, Orono, Maine
    R5-S4 - NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston, Texas
    R5-S2-2.0 - NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston, Texas
    REAL - Dartmouth University, Hanover, N.H.
    SOC-i - University of Washington, Seattle, Wash.
    TechEdSat-11 - NASA Ames Research Center, Mountain View, Calif.
    Serenity - Teachers in Space, North America
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Found it.

Good work! Look like OwlSat got bumped in 2022, was then put back on, and then got bumped with REAL between May and June.
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Launch is scheduled for NET June 26th at 9 p.m. PDT (27 June 04:00 UTC):

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NASA’s ELaNa 43 Prepares for Firefly Aerospace Launch
JUN 21, 2024

NASA is readying for the launch of several small satellites to space, built with the help of students, educators, and researchers from across the country, as part of the agency’s CubeSat Launch Initiative.

The ELaNa 43 (Educational Launch of Nanosatellites 43) mission includes eight CubeSats flying on Firefly Aerospace’s Alpha rocket for its “Noise of Summer” launch from Space Launch Complex-2 at Vandenberg Space Force Base, California. The 30-minute launch window will open at 9 p.m. PDT Wednesday, June 26 (12 a.m. EDT Thursday, June 27).

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Firefly will host the Alpha FLTA005 Noise of Summer livestream in collaboration with NASASpaceflight. The livestream will begin at T-30 minutes to liftoff.

https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/

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"Firefly será el anfitrión de la transmisión en vivo Alpha FLTA005 Noise of Summer en colaboración con NASASpaceflight. La transmisión en vivo comenzará a las T-30 minutos antes del despegue"

https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/
Nice, so NSF will be on stream.

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PDF of online press kit.
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Has there been any mention of the orbital parameters?
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PDF of online press kit.
Interesting, looking at the press kit and the static fire picture, it appears that firefly has added a whiteish paint job to the stage 2 lox tank on alpha
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Has there been any mention of the orbital parameters?

How about this?

Quote from: NGA
210933Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 450/24(GEN).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
ALASKA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS:
   A. 260810Z TO 260912Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      21-16.00N 122-22.00W, 18-25.00N 118-33.00W,
      05-04.00S 136-09.00W, 02-22.00S 139-54.00W
   B. 271530Z TO 271645Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      49-12.00N 132-49.00W, 47-00.00N 134-15.00W,
      50-41.00N 170-48.00W, 52-03.00N 170-59.00W,
      53-10.00N 166-40.00W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 271745Z JUN 24.//

202327Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 454/24(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   260810Z TO 260911Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 134-45.00W, 03-30.00N 129-50.00W,
   05-03.00S 136-10.00W, 02-47.00S 139-19.00W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261011Z JUN 24.

The timing is off: the two earliest windows here indicate an orbital pass (equatorial Pacific) at 6/26 0801Z whereas Firefly has announced a launch window of 6/27 0400Z - 0430Z. Perhaps these zones were submitted before Firefly settled on 6/26 at 9 pm PDT.

All three zones appear consistent with roughly 128 deg inclination, and that seems in-family with previous Firefly launches. But I don't know whether there's one orbit that links all three zones and the hypothetical launch track (dashed line, fiddled to look OK). 
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This NGA notice is just a generic Hazardous Operations notice, but it looks like it is probably for this Firefly launch.

Quote from: NGA
220124Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 456/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 270333Z TO 270517Z JUN, ALTERNATE
      280333Z TO 280517Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 270333Z TO 270520Z JUN, ALTERNATE
      280333Z TO 280520Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 280620Z JUN 24.

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Has there been any mention of the orbital parameters?

How about this?

Quote from: NGA
210933Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 450/24(GEN).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
ALASKA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS:
   A. 260810Z TO 260912Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      21-16.00N 122-22.00W, 18-25.00N 118-33.00W,
      05-04.00S 136-09.00W, 02-22.00S 139-54.00W
   B. 271530Z TO 271645Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
      49-12.00N 132-49.00W, 47-00.00N 134-15.00W,
      50-41.00N 170-48.00W, 52-03.00N 170-59.00W,
      53-10.00N 166-40.00W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 271745Z JUN 24.//

202327Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 454/24(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   260810Z TO 260911Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 134-45.00W, 03-30.00N 129-50.00W,
   05-03.00S 136-10.00W, 02-47.00S 139-19.00W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261011Z JUN 24.

The timing is off: the two earliest windows here indicate an orbital pass (equatorial Pacific) at 6/26 0801Z whereas Firefly has announced a launch window of 6/27 0400Z - 0430Z. Perhaps these zones were submitted before Firefly settled on 6/26 at 9 pm PDT.

All three zones appear consistent with roughly 128 deg inclination, and that seems in-family with previous Firefly launches. But I don't know whether there's one orbit that links all three zones and the hypothetical launch track (dashed line, fiddled to look OK). 
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The Firefly team is gearing up for another responsive space demonstration for Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseofSummer, launching NET June 26. Many of our final launch operations kick off less than 24 hours of the scheduled liftoff. We’ll share a recap of the operations during our livestream with @NASASpaceflight. More on the mission here: https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/.
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Press kit seems to suggest a single second stage burn to orbit, but payload deployment after 44 minutes.

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Press kit seems to suggest a single second stage burn to orbit, but payload deployment after 44 minutes.

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Yes, I was wondering about that. Perhaps there's a second burn that was omitted from the kit?
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Launch time clarification:
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Interestingly https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp is showing the launch to have slipped all the way to July 2nd UTC/July 1st PDT, but I don't see anything on Firefly Space's mission page or NASA's Small Satellites Mission Blog.

FIREFLY FLT005 VCLS-2, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   07/02/24   0403Z-0521Z
BACKUP:      07/03/24   0403Z-0521Z
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Interestingly https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp is showing the launch to have slipped all the way to July 2nd UTC/July 1st PDT, but I don't see anything on Firefly Space's mission page or NASA's Small Satellites Mission Blog.

FIREFLY FLT005 VCLS-2, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   07/02/24   0403Z-0521Z
BACKUP:      07/03/24   0403Z-0521Z


The NGA Hazardous Operations notice has been canceled TBD.

Quote from: NGA
252250Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 461/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
CANCEL NAVAREA XII 456/24,
OPERATIONS POSTPONED.

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https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1806041131827831019

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As we enter the launch window for Alpha #FLTA005, we've determined the optimal days for liftoff are between June 30 and July 1. Stay tuned for more details. Our Alpha rocket, @nasa payloads, and launch crew stand ready to bring the #NoiseofSummer.

And indeed June 30 PDT/July 1 UTC is now listed as an option here.

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FIREFLY FLT005 VCLS-2, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   07/01/24   0403Z-0521Z
BACKUP:      07/02/24   0403Z-0521Z

And Firefly's mission page lists launch time as 9:03 pm PDT June 30 = 04:03 UTC July 1.
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Two NGA generic Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices.

Quote from: NGA
271911Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 469/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 020621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
271911Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2237/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 020621Z JUL 24.

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Satellite imagery shows @Firefly_Space's Alpha rocket on the launch pad at Vandenberg a few days ago ahead of the Noise of Summer mission in the coming days.

As well as an update on the status of Space Launch Complex 6 soon to be taken over by SpaceX.

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Two cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices.

July 3 has been added as an additional date.

Quote from: NGA
281558Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 473/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL,
   ALTERNATE 03 JUL:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W, 35-09.00N 120-53.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 469/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
281558Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2246/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS DAILY 01 AND 02 JUL,
   ALTERNATE 03 JUL:
   A. 0333Z TO 0518Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W, 35-09.00N 120-53.00W.
   B. 0333Z TO 0521Z IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2237/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.

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Mark your calendars for Alpha #FLTA005, officially scheduled to launch July 1 at 9:03 pm PDT. If you’re on the West Coast, this night launch may light up your sky, so be sure to tag Firefly with your best shots and use #NoiseofSummer.

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Two cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices, for the postponement from July 1 UTC to July 2 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 480/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 473/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2258/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2246/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.

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Ready to make some noise? It’s L-1 for Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseofSummer, a mission for @NASA VCLS. The weather is GO for launch from @SLDelta30 at 9:03 pm PDT tomorrow. Livestream co-hosted with @NASAspaceflight will begin at T-30 minutes to liftoff.

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Repeating my question:
Has there been any mention of the orbital parameters?
At least an estimated orbital inclination?

Two cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) that are effectively Rocket Launching notices, for the postponement from July 1 UTC to July 2 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
NAVAREA XII 480/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 473/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
Quote from: NGA
292235Z JUN 24
HYDROPAC 2258/24(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
   A. 020333Z TO 020518Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030518Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      35-09.00N 120-53.00W, 35-04.00N 120-18.00W,
      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
      31-12.00N 121-45.00W.
   B. 020333Z TO 020521Z JUL,
      ALTERNATE 030333Z TO 030521Z JUL
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      26-01.00N 122-55.00W, 26-00.00N 122-50.00W,
      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2246/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030621Z JUL 24.
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NSF webcast (video id 28SCSyMUKMw), should be identical to the Firefly webcast given above.


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Is this going to dawn-dusk SSO?  One of the payloads had something on their web page about always being in sunlight, but those university pages are often aspirational and badly out of date.

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The Firefly crew is moving fast for Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseofSummer! Conducted as another rapid launch operation, we successfully transported the payload fairing to the pad and mated it to our rocket within just 14 hours of the scheduled liftoff on track for 9:03 pm PDT. Get more details on the mission for @NASA VCLS here: https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/

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Happy launch day y'all! Alpha #FLTA005 now stands ready to fly 8 @NASA CubeSats. Weather is green and the team is on track for liftoff from @SLDelta30 at 9:03 pm PDT. Livestream with @Nasaspaceflight will begin at T-30 minutes to launch. Get notified here: youtube.com/watch?v=F6nYZE…
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NSF webcast (video id 28SCSyMUKMw), should be identical to the Firefly webcast given above.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=28SCSyMUKMw

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Will be a direct ascent mission using a single second stage burn, confirmed during webcast. 

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Screen captures from the Firefly/NSF webcast:
It's quite foggy.
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Kinda looks like it will fly a retrograde azimuth relative to Earth rotation.

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Cool look at Stage 2 engine.

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Final countdown

Abort!  There was a few seconds discrepancy between video countdown and verbal countdown.

Strongback returns to vertical
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Attempting to launch during the remainder of launch window, up to 04:33 UTC.
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Abort was on the "ground side" per loop communications.  Now holding a poll for a recycle.
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Now holding a poll for a recycle.
I thought I heard the safety official say no go.

Still working towards launching at the end of the window, 04:33 UTC.
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Auto abort at around T-10 min on the recycle count.  Clock finally held at T-7:51 on the screen.  They are scrubbing for the night I think.
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Alpha #FLTA005 update: Our launch today was scrubbed due to a ground support issue. The team has identified the solution and is working quickly to meet our next launch window on July 2nd that opens at 9:03 PM PDT. More details to follow.
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Scrub

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Problem involved ground release equipment. 

Webcast also confirmed that spacecraft sep would have occurred after a 36 minute coast, at about T+44 min something seconds.  The single stage 2 burn would have ended at T+8 min 10 sec.  Wonder if spacecraft sep would have been over Kwajalein or somesuch.
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Wonder if spacecraft sep would have been over Kwajalein or somesuch.
I think so--mention was made that at least some of the separations might be viewed live.
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Next attempt on July 2nd, 21:03 PDT

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https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise

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We have an exciting launch day ahead! The team is currently on track preparing for tonight’s launch of Alpha #FLTA005, carrying 8 @NASA CubeSats. Weather conditions are favorable, and we are on schedule  for a liftoff from @SLDelta30 at 9:03 pm PDT. Tune in to the livestream with @NASAspaceflight starting at T-30 minutes to launch. #NoiseOfSummer

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Now targeting Thursday July 4 UTC (Wednesday July 3 PDT) per these cancel-and-replace NGA Hazardous Operations notice.

The hazard periods are the same, so presumably the same 04:03-04:33 UTC launch window.

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030301Z JUL 24
NAVAREA XII 489/24(18).
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      34-24.00N 119-47.00W, 31-07.00N 121-24.00W,
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      25-22.00N 122-30.00W, 24-44.00N 122-38.00W,
      24-16.00N 123-14.00W, 24-16.00N 123-19.00W,
      24-59.00N 123-48.00W, 25-37.00N 123-37.00W.
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Lovely view from my backyard in Phoenix!  A great pre-4th treat!  This is my first Firefly launch watch so it's interesting to compare the launch profile and trajectory to the SpaceX launches from Vandy.

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While we wait 40 minutes for payload deployment, our narrators are again having fun together. Their personalities match well. This is, in my opinion, the best space launch narration in a long time.
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From earlier, point in live broadcast - after ground link reestablished - that first successful deployments were confirmed

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Point at which final deployment was confirmed (7 out of 8 successfully deployment confirmations received so far, CatSat awaited)
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After live views, some stills downloaded of earlier deployment sequence

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Not too shabby!
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That's a wrap for tonight's coverage of Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseOfSummer. After expected deployment, @NASA's CubeSat teams are now awaiting acquisition of signal....AND the Firefly team successfully completed a second stage relight and nominal plane change following deployment. Congratulations to the entire mission team!

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Firefly Aerospace Alpha FLTA005 Noise of Summer Rocket Launch - Combo View

Side-by-side views of tonight's launch using a VSFB Infered camera and a land base camera located in Santa Barbara

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AND the Firefly team successfully completed a second stage relight and nominal plane change following deployment. Congratulations to the entire mission team!
Maybe the most important good news of this mission. 

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https://twitter.com/rebilasphoto/status/1808720555807285688

Nice photo! Saw the same view, fireworks with Firefly in the background. This was a big event in La Puente CA and the timing was amazing. Firefly transit across the whole sky was directly behind the fireworks. I was confused by how bright the first stage was, it remained visible after separation as the gap continued to grow. I should have realized that sunlight, reflecting off the stages provided illumination. Also the first stage burn back firing is short, I had convinced myself it must have been a SpaceX launch. One of the people I was talking to said, no, it was Firefly. Phone was in my vehicle at the time so I couldn't confirm, should have believed him.
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We were honored to provide a rocket light show to kick off the Fourth of July - Happy Independence Day from our Firefly family to yours. #NoiseOfSummer

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https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1808933496918061267

97.3 deg, around 490x520km

TLE from Celestrak:
OBJECT B               
1 60204U 24125B   24186.55798365 -.00000069  00000+0  00000+0 0  9999
2 60204  97.3219  39.4368 0020659 251.3829 199.4310 15.20834757    54

An online converter for RAAN to LTAN gave me 07:40 LTAN, not sure if that's correct?
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8 of 9 expected objects from the Firefly launch cataloged by SpaceTrack in a 490 x 525 km x 97.3 deg sun-synchronous orbit with 19:45 local time orbit plane
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Firefly's Alpha rocket engines roar to life! Ignition illuminated the surrounding fog on SLC-2 and continued through a stunning California sunset carrying a NASA CubeSat payload. Congratulations to the @Firefly_Space team on this Independence Day!

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Firefly press release: https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-successfully-launches-alpha-flta005-noise-of-summer-mission-for-nasa/

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Firefly Aerospace Successfully Launches Alpha FLTA005 Noise of Summer Mission for NASA

Firefly team completed orbital insertion, payload deployment, second stage relight, and orbital plane change

VANDENBERG SPACE FORCE BASE, Calif., – July 4, 2024 – Firefly Aerospace, an end-to-end space transportation company, today announced it successfully launched its Alpha Flight 5 (FLTA005) rocket and completed the payload deployment sequence as part of the company’s Venture-Class Launch Services Demonstration 2 (VCLS Demo 2) contract with NASA.

The mission, called Noise of Summer, lifted off from Firefly’s SLC-2 launch site at the Vandenberg Space Force Base at 9:04 p.m. PDT on July 3, 2024. Following payload deployment, Firefly successfully performed a second stage relight and plane change maneuver to further test and validate Alpha’s on-orbit capabilities.

“The Firefly team knocked it out of the park,” said Bill Weber, CEO of Firefly Aerospace. “As a NASA vendor for both launch and lunar services, we look forward to continuing this partnership and supporting the agency’s larger space exploration goals from Earth to the Moon and beyond.”

As a NASA VCLS Demo 2 task order, the successful mission further validates Alpha’s capabilities to provide small satellite launches for NASA on a recurring basis. The mission’s CubeSats were selected through NASA’s CubeSat Launch Initiative (CSLI) that provides U.S. educational institutions and nonprofits with low-cost access to space.

“The launch of Firefly Aerospace’s demonstration mission marks one more way NASA is innovating for the benefit of humanity,” said Hamilton Fernandez, mission manager for NASA’s Launch Services Program. “NASA is using CubeSat missions to demonstrate the capability of small rockets and build relationships with this new part of the U.S. launch vehicle industry.”

At the time of this release, ongoing activities are underway by NASA and the CubeSat teams as they work to acquire signals for all satellites. Additional updates will be posted to the mission webpage.

Looking ahead, Firefly is in the final testing phase for its next Alpha launch, FLTA006, in support of a dedicated commercial mission for Lockheed Martin. The Firefly team is concurrently ramping up for a responsive on-orbit Elytra mission that will launch on Alpha FLTA007 later this year while also working to complete the final readiness milestones for its first Blue Ghost mission to the Moon launching in Q4 2024.

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completed the payload deployment sequence

Completed the sequence, very carefully worded, as one sat did not deploy, dispenser failure or something.

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8 of 9 expected objects from the Firefly launch cataloged by SpaceTrack in a 490 x 525 km x 97.3 deg sun-synchronous orbit with 19:45 local time orbit plane

From the attached picture we see seven objects in a 490x520 km orbit and one object in a 450x520 km orbit. Presumably, the former are seven cubesats and the latter is the second stage after the plane change. The cubesat that is missing could be CatSat, which was not confirmed as having been released during the webcast.
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8 of 9 expected objects from the Firefly launch cataloged by SpaceTrack in a 490 x 525 km x 97.3 deg sun-synchronous orbit with 19:45 local time orbit plane

From the attached picture we see seven objects in a 490x520 km orbit and one object in a 450x520 km orbit. Presumably, the former are seven cubesats and the latter is the second stage after the plane change. The cubesat that is missing could be CatSat, which was not confirmed as having been released during the webcast.

All 8 objects are in the same plane more or less. I think it is equally likely that Catsat did deploy and that the missing object is stage 2, which they are having trouble finding because of the plane change.
Presumably that will become clearer in a few days.
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https://twitter.com/voyagerspace_/status/1809236105620762933

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Congrats to @Firefly_Space on their 5th successful launch "Noise of Summer"! Voyager's Exploration team proudly led the satellite integration for all 8 cubesats on board, supporting @NASA's mission. Excited for the data these incredible payloads will bring!
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https://voyagerspace.com/insights/voyager-satellite-rideshare-noise-of-summer/

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Voyager & Satellite Rideshare: Noise of Summer

Congratulations to our friends at Firefly Aerospace for the company’s fifth launch (dubbed “Noise of Summer”)! Voyager’s Exploration team proudly led the satellite integration for all eight cubesats on board on behalf of the mission’s primary customer, NASA. Firefly’s Alpha vehicle lifted off at 9:04 p.m. PDT on July 3, 2024 and all eight satellites were successfully deployed.

The “Noise of Summer” payloads were sponsored by the NASA Cubesat Launch Initiative (CSLI) Launch Services Program (LSP), a team that Voyager proudly works closely with to support the launch and deployment of university satellites from the International Space Station, and now on rideshare missions. Customers on this mission included:

CatSat (University of Arizona): CatSat is a technology demonstration of an inflatable antenna for high-speed communications.

KUbeSat-1 (University of Kansas): The main payload on KUbeSat-1 is the Primary Cosmic Ray Detector which will use a new method to measure the energy and species of primary cosmic rays hitting the Earth.

MESAT1 (University of Maine): The science payloads are climate focused and include ALBEDO, IMAGER, and HAB. These will identify urban heat islands, determine concentration of phytoplankton in water bodies, and help predict harmful algal blooms.

R5-S4 and R5-S2.2.0 (NASA Johnson Space Center): R5-S4 and R5-S2 are the first in a line of R5 spacecrafts launched to orbit that will be tests of a new, lean process for building a spacecraft bus.

Serenity (Teachers in Space): Serenity 3 offers low-cost opportunities to test educational experiments in space. It has a suite of data sensors and a camera that will send data back to Earth. Licensed as an amateur radio broadcaster, Serenity can communicate with radios on the ground.

SOC-i (University of Washington):  SOC-I is a tech demo mission of attitude control technology. One of the payloads is a guidance and control system called SOAR, or SOC-i’s Optimal Attitude Reorientation. The second payload, CMOS, is a camera that serves as an instrument to demonstrate SOC-i’s pointing abilities.

TechEdSat-11 (TES-11) (NASA Ames Research Center): TES-11 contains several technology demonstrations, including advanced communications, radiation sensor suite, experimental solar panels, an exo-brake, and BrainStack-3

Voyager has successfully integrated and supported the launch of over 350 satellites and we’re proud to be part of this momentous launch for Firefly. Our team provided end-to-end support for NASA and the educational customers on board – working closely with Firefly – ensuring they were ready for flight. This included everything from mission planning, safety reviews, fit checks, vibration tests, and eventually integration onto the launch vehicle itself.

Congratulations again to Firefly and all of the customers on board as they begin collecting data. We can’t wait for the next mission.

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I had to look up Voyager to remember they bought Nanoracks, who I assume had that integration contract.

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Another liftoff image from @Firefly_Space’s fifth Alpha mission from Vandenberg Space Force Base. Eight CubeSats were chosen through @NASA’s CubeSat Launch Initiative (CSLI) which gives satellite developers low-cost access to research in space. #NoiseofSummer

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I surely enjoyed watching this launch. I have two remaining questions however. During the launch broadcast it was announced that Alpha's stage 2 Lightning engine would relight to conduct a two-burn orbit insertion ahead of payload deployment [see first screenshot]. The Lightning engine never performed a second burn however, and the payloads were deployed in the orbit the initial stage 2 burn achieved. Why was the initial flight plan changed?

My second question has to do with payload deployment. After the planned deployment of CatSat - which was not shown live because it was supposed to occur during loss of signal - we got video showing a black cube (with a white top featuring a round hole) loosely bungling over one of the already opened payload dispensers while seemingly still being attached to it [see second screenshot]. I immediately thought this black cube was a cubesat that failed to deploy, which seemed even more likely given that their never was confirmation of the deployment of CatSat. The commentators never clarified what this object was, and since none of the deployments was actually shown during the broadcast it was difficult to gauge what really happened. What you can see in my screenshot is that a a similar payload dispenser right next to it was also already opened, but did not have this strange cube above it. So was this object the CatSat, and if not, what was it?

I hope someone has some answers. Thanks in advance.
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I surely enjoyed watching this launch. I have two remaining questions however. During the launch broadcast it was announced that Alpha's stage 2 Lightning engine would relight to conduct a two-burn orbit insertion ahead of payload deployment [see first screenshot]. The Lightning engine never performed a second burn however, and the payloads were deployed in the orbit the initial stage 2 burn achieved. Why was the initial flight plan changed?

My second question has to do with payload deployment. After the planned deployment of CatSat - which was not shown live because it was supposed to occur during loss of signal - we got video showing a black cube (with a white top featuring a round hole) loosely bungling over one of the already opened payload dispensers while seemingly still being attached to it [see second screenshot]. I immediately thought this black cube was a cubesat that failed to deploy, which seemed even more likely given that their never was confirmation of the deployment of CatSat. The commentators never clarified what this object was, and since none of the deployments was actually shown during the broadcast it was difficult to gauge what really happened. What you can see in my screenshot is that a a similar payload dispenser right next to it was also already opened, but did not have this strange cube above it. So was this object the CatSat, and if not, what was it?

I hope someone has some answers. Thanks in advance.
The successful restart test took place *after* satellite deployment.  The payload was light (eight CubeSats), allowing a direct insertion.  The restart test was an important milestone that checked fixes after the FLT0004 failure.  Basically, the webcast caption was incorrect.  Read the Firefly message below.
https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1808750140947124327
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That's a wrap for tonight's coverage of Alpha #FLTA005 #NoiseOfSummer. After expected deployment, @NASA's CubeSat teams are now awaiting acquisition of signal....AND the Firefly team successfully completed a second stage relight and nominal plane change following deployment. Congratulations to the entire mission team!

Photo Credit: Firefly Aerospace/
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The cube sticking out was most likely a spacer for the slot holding a 2U CubeSat, that has been seen on previous launches.

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I surely enjoyed watching this launch. I have two remaining questions however. During the launch broadcast it was announced that Alpha's stage 2 Lightning engine would relight to conduct a two-burn orbit insertion ahead of payload deployment [see first screenshot]. The Lightning engine never performed a second burn however, and the payloads were deployed in the orbit the initial stage 2 burn achieved. Why was the initial flight plan changed?

My second question has to do with payload deployment. After the planned deployment of CatSat - which was not shown live because it was supposed to occur during loss of signal - we got video showing a black cube (with a white top featuring a round hole) loosely bungling over one of the already opened payload dispensers while seemingly still being attached to it [see second screenshot]. I immediately thought this black cube was a cubesat that failed to deploy, which seemed even more likely given that their never was confirmation of the deployment of CatSat. The commentators never clarified what this object was, and since none of the deployments was actually shown during the broadcast it was difficult to gauge what really happened. What you can see in my screenshot is that a a similar payload dispenser right next to it was also already opened, but did not have this strange cube above it. So was this object the CatSat, and if not, what was it?

I hope someone has some answers. Thanks in advance.
The successful restart test took place *after* satellite deployment.  The payload was light (eight CubeSats), allowing a direct insertion.  The restart test was an important milestone that checked fixes after the FLT0004 failure.  Basically, the webcast caption was incorrect.  Read the Firefly message below.
https://x.com/firefly_space/status/1808750140947124327

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Yes we know if happened AFTER, and therefore steven asked a question: Why did it happen AFTER if they very clearly said it will happen BEFORE.

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It could simply be misworded and they meant to write that it will perform two burns ahead of a simulated orbit insertion. (as part of their test)
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The press kit released a couple weeks ago only showed one burn before payload deploy.  The commentators said there would be one burn before payload deploy on the webcast when it scrubbed.  It wasn't any last minute change.  Looks like someone just didn't use the right onscreen graphic.

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CatSat has been confirmed deployed after reception from SatNOGS Network and 3rd party observers.

Current estimation of its deployment time around 2024-07-15 15:45 UTC.

None of the current 8 TLE sets seems to fit its orbit, however the TLE sets are ~7days old so this may change.

Source: https://community.libre.space/t/firefly-alpha-noise-of-summer-launch-elana-43-2024-07-04-04-04-utc/11859/70

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CatSat has been identified as first payload of this launch.

2024-125J, 546 x 472 km orbit
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