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Thread for the Starlink 4-31 group launch.

NSF Threads for Starlink 4-31: Discussion

Launch October 28, 2022, 01:14:10 UTC (October 27 6:14 pm PDT), from Vandenberg SLC-4E, on booster 1063-8.  Landing will be aboard Of Course I Still Love You.

Payload 53 Starlink satellites to 53.2 degree inclination on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit of approximately 230 x 335 km?

Starlink v1.5 satellite mass is now about 300kg after the addition of laser ISL terminals.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.




L2 SpaceX: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0
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Cross-post:
1630-EX-ST-2022
SpaceX Mission 1826 Starlink Group 4-31 from SLC-4E
NET late October
ASDS North  29  37  18   West  116  37  14

Operation start NET October 24.

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Seems to have disappeared from Nextspaceflight
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/?page=1&search=SpaceX

(though https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/category/vandenberg-sfb/ still has it. Seems like there should be time to do it mid/late Oct and allow time for JPSS 1 Nov?)

So has it been delayed? And if so, do we know why?

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Seems like there should be time to do it mid/late Oct and allow time for JPSS [launching on] 1 Nov?

So has it been delayed? And if so, do we know why?
Maybe SpaceX isn't ready to launch Starlink 4-31 sufficiently before Nov 1 and has chosen to delay it until afterwards?

There's apparently schedule room in November between JPSS-2 on Nov 1 and SWOT on Dec 5.

IDK why the NextSpaceFlight listing has vanished.  ???

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Seems like there should be time to do it mid/late Oct and allow time for JPSS [launching on] 1 Nov?

So has it been delayed? And if so, do we know why?

IDK why the NextSpaceFlight listing has vanished.  ???

Depending on how one counts, SpaceX is just 2-4 launches away from completing Shell #4. I'm not actually sure if the FCC deployment requirements specify that all planned satellites have to be concurrently working in orbit, or merely launched at some point. If the latter, then SpaceX is exactly two 54-satellite launches away from having launched 1584 Group 4 satellites.

I personally suspect/hope that SpaceX will actually ensure that it has the maximum possible number of working satellites in orbit, which would require ~4 more launches. In that vein, Group 1 may also need 2-3 more launches to be truly complete. But it's entirely possibly that both Group 1 and 4 can be considered practically complete after just a few more launches.
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Seems to have disappeared from Nextspaceflight
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/?page=1&search=SpaceX

(though https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/category/vandenberg-sfb/ still has it. Seems like there should be time to do it mid/late Oct and allow time for JPSS 1 Nov?)

So has it been delayed? And if so, do we know why?

I don't think it was removed, it actually hasn't been added to Next Spaceflight yet.

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OCT 30    Falcon 9    SLC-4E    Vehicle will launch several Starlink satellites into orbit



First stage 1061.11?  It's next in the 3 booster rotation at Vandenberg.

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Seems like SpaceX will have room for one (or dare I suggest two) additional Vandenberg launches come November.
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NGA Rocket Launching + Space Debris notice in costume for Halloween as a generic Hazardous Operations notice.

Shortly after midnight UTC on October 28.

Quote from: NGA
211837Z OCT 22
NAVAREA XII 791/22(GEN).
NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS:
A. 280001Z TO 280421Z OCT, ALTERNATE 282338Z TO 290359Z,
   292316Z TO 300337Z, 302255Z TO 310315Z,
   312233Z OCT TO 010254Z NOV IN AREA BOUND BY
   34-40.00N 120-25.00W, 34-40.00N 120-39.00W,
   34-34.00N 120-39.00W, 33-51.00N 120-01.00W,
   33-55.00N 119-50.00W, 34-40.00N 120-25.00W.
B. 280001Z TO 280422Z OCT, ALTERNATE 282338Z TO 290400Z,
   292316Z TO 300338Z, 302255Z TO 310316Z,
   312233Z OCT TO 010255Z NOV IN AREA BOUND BY
   30-24.00N 116-52.00W, 30-09.00N 117-22.00W,
   29-13.00N 116-32.00W, 29-24.00N 116-13.00W,
   30-24.00N 116-52.00W.
C. 280152Z TO 280527Z OCT, ALTERNATE 290130Z TO 290505Z,
   290108Z TO 290443Z, 300047Z TO 300421Z,
   310025Z TO 310400Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   50-39.00N 173-01.00W, 49-05.00N 174-35.00W,
   38-35.00N 151-24.00W, 40-09.00N 150-06.00W,
   50-39.00N 173-01.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 010355Z NOV 22.

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NGA Rocket Launching + Space Debris notice in costume for Halloween as a generic Hazardous Operations notice.

Maps from the Hazardous Operations notice. ASDS 672km downrange, second stage space debris area south of the Aleutian Islands.

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Spaceflight Now is showing the launch being one day earlier, October 27 between 00:01 - 01:00 UTC (October 26, 5:01 - 6:00 pm PDT).
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Spaceflight Now is showing the launch being one day earlier, October 27 between 00:01 - 01:00 UTC (October 26, 5:01 - 6:00 pm PDT).

So far there's no new NGA notice to support that.  I wonder if he got confused when doing the date adjustment and adjusted the date for UTC (instead of EDT+PDT) to the 27th, then adjusted EDT+PDT to the 26th.

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Spaceflight Now is showing the launch being one day earlier, October 27 between 00:01 - 01:00 UTC (October 26, 5:01 - 6:00 pm PDT).

So far there's no new NGA notice to support that.  I wonder if he got confused when doing the date adjustment and adjusted the date for UTC (instead of EDT+PDT) to the 27th, then adjusted EDT+PDT to the 26th.

SFN has fixed their launch schedule:

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Launch time: Approx. 0001-0100 GMT on 28th (8:01-9:00 p.m. EDT; 5:01-6:00 p.m. PDT on 27th)

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NextSpaceFlight, updated October 23:
Launch is October 28 00:30 UTC = October 27 5:30 pm PDT.
First stage is 1063.8.
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Tug Scorpius is about to get underway from the Port of Long Beach with OCISLY droneship for Starlink 4-31 from Vandenberg!

Launch NET Thur 27th

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1584697212784836610

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CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 4-31 launch from Vandenberg SFB set for 2022-10-28 at 00:35:00 UTC. Deployment of 53 satellites is planned for 00:50:26.700 UTC:

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1585026355733090304

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https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1585067315980558336
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.@SpaceX has updated the launch time for #Starlink Group 4-31 to 2022-10-28 at 01:14:10 UTC with deployment at 01:29:36.700 UTC. The pre-launch SupGP data on CelesTrak has been updated to reflect this change: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

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Orbital Launch no. 146 of 2022

#SpaceX to launch another batch of 53 #Starlink communication satellite for on top of #Falcon9 B1063-08 from SLC-4E at the #Vandenberg Space Force Base in California.

https://twitter.com/nkknspace/status/1585179436760338433

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https://twitter.com/raul74cz/status/1585221698991063043

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LHA map for #Starlink Group 4-31 from VSFB SLC-4E NET 28 Oct 01:14 UTC, alternatively 29 to 31 Oct based on issued NOTAM/NOTMAR. B1063.8 planned landing with roughly estimated fairing recovery ~673km downrange. Stage2 debris reentry in North Pacific. https://bit.do/LHA20
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https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1585414794181369856

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Targeting Thursday, October 27 for a Falcon 9 launch of 53 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from SLC-4E in California →

https://www.spacex.com/launches/sl4-31/

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SpaceX is targeting Thursday, October 27 for a Falcon 9 launch of 53 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4E (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. The instantaneous launch window is at 6:14 p.m. PT (01:14 UTC on Friday, October 28), and a backup opportunity is available on Friday, October 28 at 5:52 p.m. PT (00:52 UTC on Saturday, October 29).

The first stage booster supporting this mission previously launched Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich, DART, and five Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship, which will be stationed in the Pacific Ocean.

A live webcast of this mission will begin about five minutes prior to liftoff.
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Will be there
You are only there with a launch photo.  ;)
Hopefully the weather gods will cooperate.


add't note - the gods cooperation is for the photo
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Upcoming 32nd #Starlink launch of this year via #SpaceX's #Falcon9 vehicle..

Booster supporting this mission..

https://twitter.com/_rykllan/status/1585558802161598466

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https://twitter.com/bubbinski/status/1585682748328402945

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Falcon 9 B1063-8 is preparing for launch this evening from Vandenberg Space Force Base, California on the Starlink 4-31 mission:

Article for NASASpaceflight

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/10/starlink-4-31/

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Range is ready.

T-38 minutes. Launch director should be verifying go for propellant load.
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Tanks venting for propellant load.

Go no-go instructions given.

T-35 minutes. First stage LOX and RP-1 loading and second stage RP-1 loading should be starting about now.

"Launch auto has started."
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T-20 minutes. Stage 2 fuel load complete.
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T-16 minutes. Startup on stage 2 LOX load.
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T-7 minutes. First stage engine chill should be starting about now.
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T-6 minutes. SpaceX coverage has begun. Not tracking any issues.
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T-5 minutes. Tanks pressing for strongback retract.
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T-4 minutes. Strongback retracting.
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T-3 minutes. Stage 1 LOX load is complete.
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T-2 minutes.

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ASDS.

T-1 minute.

LD go for launch.
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Liftoff!
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LAUNCH! SpaceX's 49th launch this year with Falcon 9 (B1063-8) lofting Starlink Group 4-31 from SLC-4E at Vandenberg.

Overview:
https://nasaspaceflight.com/2022/10/starlink-4-31/… - by Justin Davenport (@Bubbinski)

SpaceX Livestream:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iYtH2khNIgU
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First stage separation.

Fairing separation.

T+3 minutes.
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T+7 minutes. Entry burn.
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SpaceX's Falcon 9 (B1063-8) lands on West Coast drone ship "Of Course I Still Love You."

149th landing of an orbital-class rocket!

SpaceX Livestream: youtube.com/watch?v=iYtH2k…

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Touchdown!

T+9 minutes.

Good orbit.
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End of SpaceX webcast. Upcoming event.

00:15:25    Starlink satellites deploy
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Hey @spacex what a beauty this launch is over Arizona! #Falcon9
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T+15 minutes and 25 seconds. Starlink separation should be happening about now.
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Great shot with fairing halves and booster visible too

https://twitter.com/2soltorres2/status/1585805693998624768

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Post #Starlink launch twilight effect of @SpaceX rocket exhaust illuminated by high altitude sunlight as seen in the western sky from #LasVegasNevada.

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T+28 minutes. Starlink separation confirmed. AOS ?

The mission audio stream has been made private.

Congratulations to SpaceX and Starlink for the successful launch!
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Deployment of 53 Starlink satellites confirmed
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Falcon rockets to orbit as seen from LA

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This clip from the west coast of Mexico shows the dogleg, or bend, in the Falcon 9's track after launch from California. This steering ensures the rocket doesn't fly over populated areas.

Atwitter.com/orlandoagmz/status/1585805874433429504

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Wow, great detail

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#SpaceX #Falcon launched from #Vandenberg Airbase and arced over my home in #Ojai. #sonya7riv #sony200600mm

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Here is a comparison of the webcast telemetry from the two most recent 53 Starlink satellite launches, 4-27 and 4-31. The major difference between these launches is the launch site, 4-27 being from SLC-40 on the east coast, and 4-31 from SLC-4E on the west coast.

1. The booster profiles are very similar, although 4-31 spent less time in the throttle bucket, perhaps enough to make up for the higher launch site latitude.

2. The second stage profiles are also similar, although 4-31 does appear to have the multiple incremental throttle downs seen in mission 4-36, and a consequential longer burn for the same impulse, and orbital insertion velocity.

3. Given both Steven Pietrobon's screenshot of the mission audio webcast:
T+15 minutes and 25 seconds. Starlink separation should be happening about now.
and also, from the consistency of the webcast data, I'm seeing no evidence for any dogleg maneuvers alluded to up-thread in this mission. An optical illusion may be the more likely culprit.

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Another view of the launch from Los Angeles (first two photos taken shortly after 2nd stage ignition).  First stage reorientation and fairings visible to naked eye, as was the reentry burn just above the southern horizon.
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Launch image from SpaceX website

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Update / Update

The Falcon 9 launch history continues to grow.

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1585873162926817281

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CelesTrak has ephemeris-based SupGP data for all 53 payloads from the launch (2022-141) of #Starlink Group 4-31 from Vandenberg SFB on 2022-10-28 at 01:14:10 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

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A #SpaceX #Falcon9 launched a minute after sunset yesterday evening from #Vandenberg SFB (B1063.8, #Starlink Group 4-31).

At 6500' though, the sun was still up...

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The sun is flattened by atmospheric refraction, and looks a bit rattled by shock (sound) waves from the rocket exhaust.

I didn't quite get everything lined up like I wanted, but being off center shows more of the wave propagation.

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and also, from the consistency of the webcast data, I'm seeing no evidence for any dogleg maneuvers alluded to up-thread in this mission. An optical illusion may be the more likely culprit.

A dogleg is required during the first or second stage burn.   A launch azimuth of around 131 degrees would be required for a direct injection to a 52 degree inclination.  Vandenberg's minimum azimuth for range safety is 158 degrees

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and also, from the consistency of the webcast data, I'm seeing no evidence for any dogleg maneuvers alluded to up-thread in this mission. An optical illusion may be the more likely culprit.

A dogleg is required during the first or second stage burn.   A launch azimuth of around 131 degrees would be required for a direct injection to a 52 degree inclination.  Vandenberg's minimum azimuth for range safety is 158 degrees

When exactly could the dogleg have been performed? Immediately after fairing separation?
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Thursday evening's Falcon 9 launch from Vandenberg SFB, Calif. was seen over a wide area. Here is a sample of the media coverage:

Sacramento, CA
SpaceX launches 53 satellites into orbit from California
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/spacex-launches-53-satellites-into-orbit-from-california/

Bakersfield, CA
SpaceX rocket launch from Vandenberg SFB visible to many in Bakersfield
https://www.kget.com/news/local-news/spacex-rocket-launch-from-vandenberg-sfb-visible-to-many-in-bakersfield/

Coachella Valley, CA
Rocket lights up Coachella Valley sky Thursday evening
https://kesq.com/news/2022/10/27/rocket-lights-up-coachella-valley-sky-thursday-evening/

Las Vegas, NV
That spooky sight over Las Vegas? It&rsquo;s just a SpaceX rocket
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/that-spooky-sight-over-las-vegas-its-just-a-spacex-rocket-2665869/

Saint George, UT
Rocket launch blazes a trail across Southern Utah&rsquo;s western sky
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2022/10/27/cdr-rocket-launch-blazes-a-trail-across-southern-utahs-western-sky/

Phoenix, AZ
Streak of light over Arizona sky came from SpaceX launch
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/streak-of-light-over-phoenix-sky-came-from-spacex-launch

Tucson, AZ
Watch now: SpaceX rocket launch seen from Tucson Thursday evening
https://tucson.com/news/local/watch-now-spacex-rocket-launch-seen-from-tucson/video_f77a342b-bc44-5b3d-9db6-964e7a9dcd86.html

El Paso, TX
SpaceX Falcon 9 launch of Starlink satellites lights up El Paso sky
https://cbs4local.com/newsletter-daily/space-x-falcon-9-elon-musk-launch-lights-up-el-paso-sky-internet-broadband-texas-california-vandenberg-space-force-base-october-27-2022

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SpaceX has posted these launch images

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A dogleg is required during the first or second stage burn.   A launch azimuth of around 131 degrees would be required for a direct injection to a 52 degree inclination.  Vandenberg's minimum azimuth for range safety is 158 degrees

I don't have a copy of the SpaceX Mission Audio Webcast for Starlink 4-31, because it was marked as private. However, I do have it for Starlink 4-29, which was from SLC-4e to the same 53.2° orbital inclination. I've attached a video of the entire launch phase below. At no point was there a dogleg maneuver.

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OCISLY droneship is en-route to Port of Long Beach with B1063 from Starlink 4-31

Estimated arrival daytime Sunday

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Welcome home @spacex #booster !! @SpaceOffshore 10-30-22

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and also, from the consistency of the webcast data, I'm seeing no evidence for any dogleg maneuvers alluded to up-thread in this mission. An optical illusion may be the more likely culprit.
A dogleg is required during the first or second stage burn.   A launch azimuth of around 131 degrees would be required for a direct injection to a 52 degree inclination.  Vandenberg's minimum azimuth for range safety is 158 degrees
When exactly could the dogleg have been performed? Immediately after fairing separation?
No, the dogleg should be part of the first stage burn.  A dogleg is least expensive when done at as low a velocity as possible.

Here's a picture that shows the likely location.  The more vertical line is a plot of 158o from Vandenburg.  The other line is plotting backwards from the droneship position.  At the latitude of the droneship, a 56.2o inclination orbit passes overhead at an azimuth of 140o = asin(cos(56.2)/cos(29.62)).  Reversing this course yields 320o.  Both plots were made with this GPS Visualizer.  I then superimposed the two plots.

So if done as an impulsive maneuver, it would be done a little south of the channel islands.  In practice it's more efficient to do this as a gentle curve.
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And here’s @SpaceX ’s #Falcon9 booster 1063.8 fresh back from space,  returning to home in @portoflongbeach this morning. 10-30-22

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and also, from the consistency of the webcast data, I'm seeing no evidence for any dogleg maneuvers alluded to up-thread in this mission. An optical illusion may be the more likely culprit.
A dogleg is required during the first or second stage burn.   A launch azimuth of around 131 degrees would be required for a direct injection to a 52 degree inclination.  Vandenberg's minimum azimuth for range safety is 158 degrees
When exactly could the dogleg have been performed? Immediately after fairing separation?
No, the dogleg should be part of the first stage burn.  A dogleg is least expensive when done at as low a velocity as possible.

Here's a picture that shows the likely location.  The more vertical line is a plot of 158o from Vandenburg.  The other line is plotting backwards from the droneship position.  At the latitude of the droneship, a 56.2o inclination orbit passes overhead at an azimuth of 140o = asin(cos(56.2)/cos(29.62)).  Reversing this course yields 320o.  Both plots were made with this GPS Visualizer.  I then superimposed the two plots.

So if done as an impulsive maneuver, it would be done a little south of the channel islands.  In practice it's more efficient to do this as a gentle curve.

Lou, if SpaceX had done what you suggest, the launch hazard area for the ASDS would make no sense, because it wouldn't align with the booster ground track. But what they did is odd as well, because they actually flew at closer to 142° from North, much less than 158°. Perhaps 158° is out of date?

For an orbital inclination of 53.2° from a latitude of 34.633°, the launch azimuth in the inertial frame is 180 - 46.72 = 133.28°. However, in the orbital frame of reference, it is 180 - 44.73 = 135.27°. So, they were about 7° short of the required azimuth.

Perhaps this difference was made up by a second S2 burn at apogee, or even by the satellites themselves? Or a bit of both?

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Lou, if SpaceX had done what you suggest, the launch hazard area for the ASDS would make no sense, because it wouldn't align with the booster ground track. But what they did is odd as well, because they actually flew at closer to 142° from North, much less than 158°. Perhaps 158° is out of date?

For an orbital inclination of 53.2° from a latitude of 34.633°, the launch azimuth in the inertial frame is 180 - 46.72 = 133.28°. However, in the orbital frame of reference, it is 180 - 44.73 = 135.27°. So, they were about 7° short of the required azimuth.

Perhaps this difference was made up by a second S2 burn at apogee, or even by the satellites themselves? Or a bit of both?
Good points.  Looking carefully at the hazard diagram reproduced below, it looks like they took off close to due south (can't see well from this plot).  Perhaps it's 158o, the range limit.  Then once past the coast, but still very soon after takeoff,  they switched to 142o, aiming for the droneship.  After MECO, the booster continues ballistically to the droneship, while the second stage trajectory slowly bends to the required inclination, as shown by rightmost trajectory on the plot (the one that misses the droneship).

SpaceX for sure would not wait until orbit to correct the inclination.  Since the penalty is proportion to the speed you are travelling, doing it in orbit is many times worse than doing it earlier in the flight.

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SpaceX Falcon 9 booster 1063 was captured in 30cm/pixel satellite imagery after it returned to the Port of Long Beach on 2022-10-30.

https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1588147500178776065

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The weather was just as rough in Long Beach on Tuesday but it made it out ok. Grant you they already had the booster on land for the past week already.

https://twitter.com/LBCAirSeaSpace/status/1590887103550083073

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