Author Topic: Starlink direct to cell (was SpaceX & T-mobile event 25 Aug 2022)  (Read 103288 times)

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That might mean potential for about 32 million satisfied customers by 2030? Potential, maybe, but I believe Starlink only picked up about 300,000 new users in 2023. So maybe 3 million total users by 2030. Not perhaps what SX was hoping for, but still profitable?

SpaceX added a lot more then 300k in 2023
They hit 1 million Dec 2022 and 2.2 Million Dec 2023

That's roughly 1.2 million in a year

Gwynne Shotwell, in her year end tweet thanking SpaceX employees, mentioned 1.3 million new customers for Starlink.

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SpaceX added a lot more then 300k in 2023
They hit 1 million Dec 2022 and 2.2 Million Dec 2023

That's roughly 1.2 million in a year

Ah, Understood.
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Entel Peru added to the list @ direct.starlink.com

Will they add Entel Bolivia next?

https://www.entel.pe/noticias/alianza-de-entel-y-starlink-permitira-conectar-a-mas-peruanos/
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Online Craigles

Entel Peru added to the list @ direct.starlink.com

Will they add Entel Bolivia next?

https://www.entel.pe/noticias/alianza-de-entel-y-starlink-permitira-conectar-a-mas-peruanos/
Likewise might they add other neighboring Entels: Chile and the formerly state-owned Argentine ENTel ...
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I'd rather be here now

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Entel Chile added last month.  I think both Personal and Movistar have MoU's with AST Spacemobile.  But, the value of those MoU's are basically worthless as OPTUS Australia was also an AST Spacemobile MoU participant.

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SpaceX sends first text messages via its newly launched direct to cell satellites

https://api.starlink.com/public-files/DIRECT_TO_CELL_FIRST_TEXT_UPDATE.pdf

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Crosspost:

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1745174665809818030

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The SpaceX team sent and received our first text messages through our Direct to Cell satellites just six days after launch →

https://www.starlink.com/updates

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JAN 10, 2024
SPACEX SENDS FIRST TEXT MESSAGES VIA ITS NEWLY LAUNCHED DIRECT TO CELL SATELLITES
On Monday, January 8, the Starlink team successfully sent and received our first text messages using T-Mobile network spectrum through one of our new Direct to Cell satellites launched six days prior. Connecting cell phones to satellites has several major challenges to overcome. For example, in terrestrial networks cell towers are stationary, but in a satellite network they move at tens of thousands of miles per hour relative to users on Earth. This requires seamless handoffs between satellites and accommodations for factors like Doppler shift and timing delays that challenge phone to space communications. Cell phones are also incredibly difficult to connect to satellites hundreds of kilometers away given a mobile phone’s low antenna gain and transmit power. Starlink satellites with the Direct to Cell payload are equipped with innovative new custom silicon, phased array antennas, and advanced software algorithms that overcome these challenges and provide standard LTE service to cell phones on the ground. As the global leader in rocket and satellite launch and manufacturing, SpaceX is uniquely positioned to rapidly scale our Direct to Cell network and will rapidly launch a constellation of hundreds of satellites to enable text service in 2024 and voice, data, and Internet of Things (IoT) services in 2025.

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https://twitter.com/longmier/status/1745191132727070837

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It feels very surreal that the team is now walking around the SpaceX campus texting each other from our off the shelf, and unmodified, test phones sending normal 4G LTE data packets up to our first 6 satellites and back down to the other test phones.
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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1745246204118925711

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Texts between two phones sent through our Direct to Cell satellites in space
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https://twitter.com/djsnm/status/1745275125442789537

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Green text bubbles on messages between 2 iPhones tells us that this was an SMS/MMS session rather than iMessage. So not using internet capabilities.

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https://twitter.com/austindesisto/status/1746665433388728688

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Just in from @edwards345: the first constellation of Direct to Cell satellites from @SpaceX will be complete THIS YEAR!

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Direct 2 Cell related as SpaceX pursues Global MSS spectrum to deploy Global,  non-MNO licensed Direct 2 Cell service.

https://twitter.com/FREESPEECH1017/status/1754928756266041548

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SpaceX files for Experimental Launch Communications for Group 8-2 (0179-EX-ST-2024) and 8-3 (0180-EX-ST-2024) from Vandenberg Space Force base.
Period beginning on March 7th. 

SpaceX applied for the launch communications of Group 8-1 (1807-EX-ST-2023) on Sept. 1st, 2023 and it was Granted on Sept. 21st, 2023.  This 8-1 grant will expire on March 25th, 2024.

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Next Vandenberg launch 2/17?-2/19? will be last chance to launch more D2D payloads (8-1)before MWC 2024

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 I saw a sign somewhere advertising Starlink/whateverlocalpartner text service by 2025. Auckland, I think.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who couldn't hear the music.

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I saw a sign somewhere advertising Starlink/whateverlocalpartner text service by 2025. Auckland, I think.

One.nz (formerly Vodafone NZ), the #2 cellular network in NZ are advertising their partnership with SpaceX, see https://one.nz/why-choose-us/spacex/


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For Immediate Release
CHAIRWOMAN ROSENWORCEL ADVANCES SUPPLEMENTAL
COVERAGE FROM SPACE FRAMEWORK
New Rules to Be Voted at March Open Meeting Would Harness the Power of
Satellites to Enhance Mobile Phone Operations & Fill Wireless Coverage Gaps
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WASHINGTON, February 21, 2024—FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel today shared
with her fellow Commissioners draft final rules to establish a new regulatory framework to
facilitate innovative collaborations between satellite operators and wireless providers. These
partnerships leverage the growth in space-based services to provide smartphone users
ubiquitous connectivity, even in remote, unserved, and underserved areas.
..........
At its March 14 Open Meeting, the Commission will vote on the Chairwoman’s proposed
Report and Order. If adopted, this framework allows satellite operators collaborating with
terrestrial service providers to seek FCC authorization to operate space stations on certain
licensed, flexible-use spectrum currently allocated to terrestrial services, provided they satisfy
certain licensing prerequisites—including having a spectrum lease from a terrestrial licensee
within a specified geographic area

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-400635A1.pdf

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SpaceX files "Petition for Rulemaking - 1.6 and 2.4 GHz Sharing Framework"
https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/102211948918123/1

« Last Edit: 02/22/2024 05:58 pm by raptorx2 »

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