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First Shuttle Night Launch
« on: 12/11/2006 03:07 AM »
When was this and did NASA have any concerns about carrying this out?
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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #1 on: 12/11/2006 03:30 AM »
STS-8, August 30, 1983, 2:32:00 a.m. EDT (STS-8 also made the first night landing).

In our 2002 interview, Guy Bluford said that it was these milestones that set apart the mission from others: "It was the first night launch and the first night landing of the shuttle. So we had to, as a crew, figure out the techniques that were required to launch the thing at night and as well as land the thing at night. I think that was the most significant thing, particularly in reference to space exploration history, that STS-8 was responsible for."

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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #2 on: 12/11/2006 04:06 AM »
I've never seen a video of either this launch or this landing. Does anyone have one or know where I can find one online?

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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #3 on: 12/11/2006 04:15 AM »

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Re: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #4 on: 12/12/2006 04:32 AM »
The lightning protection system didn't help much there!

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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #5 on: 12/12/2006 01:47 PM »
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Some nice images at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov


Was the orbiter or pad actually struck by lightning in this photo? Couldn't have been as bad as it looks because they got STS-8 off the ground that night.

Also, not related to the night launch, but STS-8 experienced a close-call with the SRBs when the nozzle insulation almost burned through. Anyone know how close to disaster they actually came? :o

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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #6 on: 12/12/2006 02:25 PM »
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Some nice images at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov


Was the orbiter or pad actually struck by lightning in this photo? Couldn't have been as bad as it looks because they got STS-8 off the ground that night.

Also, not related to the night launch, but STS-8 experienced a close-call with the SRBs when the nozzle insulation almost burned through. Anyone know how close to disaster they actually came? :o

No - stike was near not on the pad

ref :http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/luceneweb/caption_direct.jsp?photoId=S83-40452

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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #7 on: 12/13/2006 08:26 PM »
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Avron - 10/12/2006  10:58 PM

Some nice images at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov


Was the orbiter or pad actually struck by lightning in this photo? Couldn't have been as bad as it looks because they got STS-8 off the ground that night.

Also, not related to the night launch, but STS-8 experienced a close-call with the SRBs when the nozzle insulation almost burned through. Anyone know how close to disaster they actually came? :o

Shuttlefan...I remember reading back in '83 that STS-8 was "within seconds" of possible disaster due to SRB nozzle insulation burning through. I believe STS-9 was delayed a month because of further inspection requirements.

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RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #8 on: 12/14/2006 02:52 AM »
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shuttlefan - 12/12/2006  9:30 AM

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Avron - 10/12/2006  10:58 PM

Some nice images at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov


Was the orbiter or pad actually struck by lightning in this photo? Couldn't have been as bad as it looks because they got STS-8 off the ground that night.

Also, not related to the night launch, but STS-8 experienced a close-call with the SRBs when the nozzle insulation almost burned through. Anyone know how close to disaster they actually came? :o

Shuttlefan...I remember reading back in '83 that STS-8 was "within seconds" of possible disaster due to SRB nozzle insulation burning through. I believe STS-9 was delayed a month because of further inspection requirements.

Ya, STS-9 was rolled back from Pad 39-A to the VAB ( the first rollback in the Shuttle Program ), to replace the nozzle on one of the SRBs because it was suspect due to the STS-8 problem. ;)

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STS-8 nozzle burn-through
« Reply #9 on: 04/26/2009 02:50 AM »
I'm surprised not to find any follow-up discussion on the STS-8 nozzle insulation burn-through. If they were within seconds of LOVC, that's big! (I imagine the risk is worse than, e.g., the flight that lost two engine controllers, if nozzle failure would cause burn to the orbiter or ET.)

Any word on what happened?
Should I start a new thread on this topic, or continue here?

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Also, not related to the night launch, but STS-8 experienced a close-call with the SRBs when the nozzle insulation almost burned through. Anyone know how close to disaster they actually came? :o

Shuttlefan...I remember reading back in '83 that STS-8 was "within seconds" of possible disaster due to SRB nozzle insulation burning through. I believe STS-9 was delayed a month because of further inspection requirements.

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Re: STS-8 nozzle burn-through
« Reply #10 on: 04/26/2009 12:49 PM »
I'm surprised not to find any follow-up discussion on the STS-8 nozzle insulation burn-through. If they were within seconds of LOVC, that's big! (I imagine the risk is worse than, e.g., the flight that lost two engine controllers, if nozzle failure would cause burn to the orbiter or ET.)

Any word on what happened?


Nozzle failure would mean loss of control. 

Don't understand the last question

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Re: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #11 on: 04/26/2009 01:25 PM »
Nozzle burn-through would mean loss of control, as Jim just mentioned, because you'd have flame shooting out the side, providing thrust that direction, and the vehicle would probably just spiral into the ocean. I've read that they were only 14 seconds from that ocurring.

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Re: RE: First Shuttle Night Launch
« Reply #12 on: 04/27/2009 05:40 PM »
I've never seen a video of either this launch or this landing. Does anyone have one or know where I can find one online?

An 18 minute summary film with the crew can be viewed online: http://www.nss.org/resources/library/shuttlevideos/shuttle08.htm

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