Author Topic: FAILURE: Relativity Terran 1 Test Flight : CCSFS SLC-16 : 23 Mar 2023 03:25 UTC  (Read 177691 times)

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https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1621839591803060226

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Shots from team before rollout to pad yesterday - doing incredible work, record speed and everyone focused and operating on-point! 🙏

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Getting ready for final ground tests, launch feeling real. At the doorstep. Photos from our technician team hard at work up high on the rocket. We are vertical again!! @relativityspace

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Relativity has revealed their targeted Terran 1 launch window. 🤪

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Damn. Just looking at those ground facilities Relativity is *swimming* in money compared to Astra or ABL at a similar stage.

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Damn. Just looking at those ground facilities Relativity is *swimming* in money compared to Astra or ABL at a similar stage.
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Damn. Just looking at those ground facilities Relativity is *swimming* in money compared to Astra or ABL at a similar stage.

Swimming in money yet still behind Astra and ABL, both of which started their efforts later. They've got a vehicle, fancy buildings, and a lot of PR. Let's see if that money also gets them to orbit before they give up on this design and go to Terran R.

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https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1623333119955808258

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Almostttt there. Awesome technician team at Relativity!

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Damn. Just looking at those ground facilities Relativity is *swimming* in money compared to Astra or ABL at a similar stage.
Astra and ABL explicitly had "minimal ground facilities" as part of their Unique Selling Point. The whole "pack the launch site into shipping containers and send it anywhere with a concrete pad" concept. So it's pretty much maximally unsurprising that Relativity has more fixed ground facilities.

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Damn. Just looking at those ground facilities Relativity is *swimming* in money compared to Astra or ABL at a similar stage.
Astra and ABL explicitly had "minimal ground facilities" as part of their Unique Selling Point. The whole "pack the launch site into shipping containers and send it anywhere with a concrete pad" concept. So it's pretty much maximally unsurprising that Relativity has more fixed ground facilities.
Relativity are also building on top of an existing pad, so a lot of infrastructure (e.g. launch mount structure, buried propellant lines, propellant tanks, water suppression system, power distribution, gas distribution, some cabling runs, bunkers, etc) is not new.

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Any new news?  Anyone at the Cape recently pass by LC-16?
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Re: Relativity Terran 1 first flight : CCSFS SLC-16 : March 2023
« Reply #151 on: 02/17/2023 02:08 pm »
SFN Launch Schedule, updated February 16:
Launch March 2023

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Re: Relativity Terran 1 first flight : CCSFS SLC-16 : March 2023
« Reply #152 on: 02/22/2023 03:36 pm »
March 8 with a launch window that opens at 18:00 UTC.

https://mailchi.mp/relativityspace/glhfinvite

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It’s almost time. Terran 1, the world’s first 3D printed rocket, is tested, integrated, and vertical on the pad, awaiting its demonstration launch. Our launch window opens at 1300 ET on March 8, 2023.

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Re: Relativity Terran 1 first flight : CCSFS SLC-16 : March 2023
« Reply #153 on: 02/22/2023 03:54 pm »


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Nice. I love the “secured,” line, too. :)

Relativity is a really neat company. I totally think 3D printing rocket tanks is a mistake, but the fact that they’re executing on the idea anyway is a testament to the team*. (And they aren’t indulging in negativity against competitors… they’re playful and appreciative of past efforts).

Really excited for Terran-1 as a risk reduction for Terran-R, which is really a good size for a fully reusable launch vehicle… and the 2024 mission to Mars with Impulse is super cool. VERY happy to see a second/third company focused on Mars.


*(except for the stubbornness to not pivot away from printing the tanks… but they sort of painted themselves in the corner, there.)
« Last Edit: 02/22/2023 04:59 pm by Robotbeat »
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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1628497535722565641

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A company spokesperson tells me there are no plans to conduct a static fire test before this scheduled launch; they believe they "have burned down risk significantly and have the data and insights we’ll need" from previous tests for the upcoming orbital launch attempt.

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https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1628755042361569281

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Here are a few thoughts on Relativity Space's plans to launch its Terran 1 rocket on March 8, without a final, all-up static fire test. First, kudos to the company for streaming it all live. Not everyone does this:

twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1628755677148504068

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Two, you should set your expectations low. No company has ever launched its first, independently developed, liquid fueled rocket and had it reach orbit on the first try. And Relativity is pushing a lot of boundaries with its methane-fueled booster.

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1628755938638168068

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Probably the biggest test here is whether the 3D printed structure of Terran 1 can withstand the dynamic pressure of ascent through the lower atmosphere and Max Q. A nominal first stage performance is a huge achievement, IMO.

twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1628756390507384835

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The decision to skip a final static fire suggests Relativity may have reached the F---it, Fly-it mode. Almost all rocket startups reach the point where they've worked so damn hard, and so damn long on the first rocket that they just want the damn thing to fly.

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1628757473736654852

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Finally, Relativity is a well capitalized startup with a superb launch team. If any company is going to succeed on the first time out, it would be them. But I think there's a sense here that the goal is getting data from this flight, rather than going orbital. But we can hope.

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