Author Topic: FAILURE: Relativity Terran 1 Test Flight : CCSFS SLC-16 : 23 Mar 2023 03:25 UTC (Read 177671 times)

Conexion Espacial · « **Reply #100 on:** 12/07/2022 09:16 pm »

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1600614352842723330

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #101 on:** 12/07/2022 09:54 pm »

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1600620118433669120

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Rocket vertical on the pad!!!

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #102 on:** 12/08/2022 12:37 am »

Cross-post:

Quote from: Salo on 12/07/2022 09:41 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated December 7:
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TERRAN 1

The first flight of Relativity Space's Terran 1 rocket is set for early 2023. The launch will take place from Complex 16.

Rondaz · « **Reply #103 on:** 12/08/2022 01:07 am »

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1600638703067885568

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1600667136245932032

[FST edit: please post original tweets not just retweets]

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #104 on:** 12/08/2022 08:25 pm »

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1600964656746868736

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Another day, another angle, another song. 🚀

It's your turn, drop your best sounds.🎶 #GLHF

📹 @TrevorMahlmann

Rondaz · « **Reply #105 on:** 12/09/2022 10:54 am »

@relativityspace fully-stacked Terran 1 overlooks a @SpaceX Falcon 9 first stage descending towards LZ-1 from tonight's OneWeb 15 mission, the first polar trajectory to fly from LC-39A.

https://twitter.com/_mgde_/status/1600998851967848448

TrevorMonty · « **Reply #106 on:** 12/09/2022 02:13 pm »

Quote from: Rondaz on 12/09/2022 10:54 am

@relativityspace fully-stacked Terran 1 overlooks a @SpaceX Falcon 9 first stage descending towards LZ-1 from tonight's OneWeb 15 mission, the first polar trajectory to fly from LC-39A.

https://twitter.com/_mgde_/status/1600998851967848448

Hopefully in couple years it will be Terran R booster in the landing video.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #107 on:** 12/09/2022 02:46 pm »

https://twitter.com/trevormahlmann/status/1601239914922012672

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#4Faves of Terran 1 TE Mate🚀 #GLHF

twitter.com/trevormahlmann/status/1601239928192389122

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#4Faves of Terran 1 Rollout🚀 #GLHF

https://twitter.com/trevormahlmann/status/1601239939957817344

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#4Faves of Terran 1 at LC-16 in Florida🚀 #GLHF

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #108 on:** 12/09/2022 06:50 pm »

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1601303058318647296

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A week of many firsts. Hats off to our world-class team.

📍 LC-16, recap:

✔️ Completed Terran 1 mate to transport erector (TE)
✔️ Rolled out to the launch pad
✔️ Went pointy end up
✔️ Successful Terran 1 Wet Dress Rehearsal (WDR)
🍌 for scale

A thread 👇🏼

#GLHF

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #109 on:** 12/09/2022 10:47 pm »

Remaining tasks before launch?
Static fire
Launch license grant

Rondaz · « **Reply #110 on:** 12/12/2022 07:07 pm »

Terran 1
Good Luck Have Fun

https://twitter.com/DerekdotSpace/status/1602373486831636480

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #111 on:** 12/13/2022 03:33 pm »

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1602691738208010242

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Documenting #newhistory in the making at Launch Complex 16! With nearly every department across the company represented, teams at the Cape yesterday gathered to commemorate a momentous week as we step into final phases of testing for Terran 1’s #GLHF flight

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #112 on:** 12/14/2022 01:52 pm »

twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1603038348028903425

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We have a wide-open shot at being the first methane fueled rocket to fly to orbit now with Zhuque-2 mission outcome. Getting past max Q will prove our 3D printing tech handles max flight stress (already proven in ground acceptance testing) which is key for scaling to Terran R 🇺🇸

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1603038486906421248

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All the way to orbit we’d be the first company ever to do so on our first try @relativityspace

TrevorMonty · « **Reply #113 on:** 12/14/2022 03:14 pm »

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/14/2022 01:52 pm

twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1603038348028903425

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We have a wide-open shot at being the first methane fueled rocket to fly to orbit now with Zhuque-2 mission outcome. Getting past max Q will prove our 3D printing tech handles max flight stress (already proven in ground acceptance testing) which is key for scaling to Terran R

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1603038486906421248

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All the way to orbit we’d be the first company ever to do so on our first try @relativityspace

They have a chance of making orbit on new LV's maiden flight but history is against them.
Especially for startup with their first LV.

Rocketdog2116 · « **Reply #114 on:** 12/14/2022 03:29 pm »

Didn’t Orbital Sciences make it to orbit on the first try with Pegasus?

StarryKnight · « **Reply #115 on:** 12/14/2022 03:39 pm »

Quote from: Rocketdog2116 on 12/14/2022 03:29 pm

Didn’t Orbital Sciences make it to orbit on the first try with Pegasus?

Yes

Steve G · « **Reply #116 on:** 12/14/2022 03:46 pm »

I remember having a book (back in the early 70s) called "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Space" ( A parody to "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum" movie) and one joke had a quote from a rocket scientist in the early days' struggles. His objective was "to get it out of sight".

PM3 · « **Reply #117 on:** 12/14/2022 04:04 pm »

Quote from: StarryKnight on 12/14/2022 03:39 pm

Quote from: Rocketdog2116 on 12/14/2022 03:29 pm
Didn’t Orbital Sciences make it to orbit on the first try with Pegasus?

Yes

As well as Chinese companies iSpace and Galactic Energy with their rockets Hyperbola-1 and Ceres-1. And regarding liquid fueled rockets, ABL is closer to their first launch than Relativity.

ParabolicSnark · « **Reply #118 on:** 12/14/2022 04:55 pm »

Does it really count as getting to orbit if you didn't even try to include a payload or a fairing that could actually separate from the vehicle?

Also, the detail about MaxQ is a tell - that's where they're setting the goal post. Are they not confident it'll get further or do they not particularly care if it does (this could track a bit given the lack of payload). Even on their first launch they're only focused on Terran R.

raspera · « **Reply #119 on:** 12/14/2022 07:52 pm »

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/14/2022 01:52 pm

twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1603038348028903425

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We have a wide-open shot at being the first methane fueled rocket to fly to orbit now with Zhuque-2 mission outcome. Getting past max Q will prove our 3D printing tech handles max flight stress (already proven in ground acceptance testing) which is key for scaling to Terran R 🇺🇸

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1603038486906421248

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All the way to orbit we’d be the first company ever to do so on our first try @relativityspace

Interesting statement by Tim. It seems to 1) set expectations low by framing Max-Q as the bar for success. 2) Imply the mission goal is to validate their 3D printing tech handles flight stress --not to achieve orbit.

Primary structure (ie their 3D printed tanks) should not be a mission risk that needs 'validation'. It is easily simulated with high confidence and testable on the ground.

What I think is happening here is Tim is beginning a PR reframe on the company goals in regard to Terran 1. Terran 1 will only fly once, maybe twice after-which the company will focus on Terran R (similar to Falcon 1 -> Falcon 9). In the event of an in-flight anomaly the company does not want to have to keep trying again until they achieve orbital success so are attempting to reframe the mission as a 'structural test of the 3d printed hardware at Max-Q' which is a much lower bar to achieve than orbital insertion.