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#20
by
zubenelgenubi
on 19 May, 2022 23:58
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Member:
Where are all the happy comments?
Boeing and company are farther along to success now than ever on the previous flight.
Perhaps all of you are waiting for a successful rendezvous and docking. That's fair.
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#21
by
kcrick
on 20 May, 2022 00:06
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I watched the launch and am happy Starliner is in orbit!
Hopefully it will successfully dock to the ISS tomorrow.
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#22
by
DanClemmensen
on 20 May, 2022 00:26
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Member:
Where are all the happy comments?
Boeing and company are farther along to success now than ever on the previous flight.
Perhaps all of you are waiting for a successful rendezvous and docking. That's fair.
For me, I'm hoping this mission goes flawlessly, but I have an irrational fear that Boeing is cursed, so I did not want to say anything at all. We (the space community including armchair observers like me) really, really need a healthy space program that includes Starliner.
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#23
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Herb Schaltegger
on 20 May, 2022 00:35
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I watched the live coverage from NSF this evening. Glad things are apparently going much better than last time. I have an old friend at Boeing personally involved in this program, so I'm also happy for him. On a macro level, the US needs orbital crew transportation redundancy so the better this flight goes, the better for everyone who gives a damn about US spaceflight and the continued viability of the ISS program.
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#24
by
Robotbeat
on 20 May, 2022 01:05
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Glad to hear the launch went well so far! Good job, ULA, your job here is done.
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#25
by
StormtrooperJoe
on 20 May, 2022 01:33
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Not off to a good start, apparently at least two thrusters failed during orbital insertion.
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#26
by
Coastal Ron
on 20 May, 2022 01:35
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Not off to a good start, apparently at least two thrusters failed during orbital insertion.
Source?
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#27
by
ehb
on 20 May, 2022 01:39
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#28
by
Robert_the_Doll
on 20 May, 2022 01:40
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The post-launch press conference mentioned it. But otherwise everything is going very well and those thrusters are not necessary for the final docking maneuvers.
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#29
by
Herb Schaltegger
on 20 May, 2022 02:00
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A lot of people forget, but one or two of the very earliest Dragon (1) flights had thruster issues. Didn’t hinder the mission for SpaceX and provided there aren’t more failures, it won’t hinder Starliner. Stuff happens. Systems are designed and built with redundancy and resilience.
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#30
by
ZachS09
on 20 May, 2022 02:28
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I was very happy that Starliner made it into its planned orbit. Specifically after the OMAC burn ended.
However, I instantly became annoyed after seeing those recent comments on Twitter about Starliner being a cursed spacecraft and foreshadowing an OFT-3 mission.
How unrealistic that sounds.
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#31
by
Vahe231991
on 20 May, 2022 02:30
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Good to see the OFT-2 in orbit after months of delay. At least it overcame the issue that the first Starliner experienced with fuel burn when it began orbiting the Earth.
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#32
by
Jeff Lerner
on 20 May, 2022 02:31
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Are there onboard cameras ?..would like to see how Rosie is doing and what things look like post launch.
In any case, happy to see things progressing well, the few glitches not withstanding…as others have noted, ISS really needs a redundant U.S. means of getting to and from Station
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#33
by
SoftwareDude
on 20 May, 2022 02:31
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So far so good; go Starliner.
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#34
by
deadman1204
on 20 May, 2022 02:56
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While the broken thrusters are not needed for docking, they ARE needed for deorbit.
Its only one more failure from astronauts not being able to return home (getting stuck in orbit)
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#35
by
yg1968
on 20 May, 2022 03:08
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Are there onboard cameras ?..would like to see how Rosie is doing and what things look like post launch.
In any case, happy to see things progressing well, the few glitches not withstanding…as others have noted, ISS really needs a redundant U.S. means of getting to and from Station
It was mentioned in the press conferences prior to launch that there is no on-board camera system for this mission. There will be for CFT.
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#36
by
yg1968
on 20 May, 2022 03:11
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While the broken thrusters are not needed for docking, they ARE needed for deorbit.
Its only one more failure from astronauts not being able to return home (getting stuck in orbit)
Steve Stich said that they are not essential for de-orbit since de-obit could also use the RCS thrusters, if necessary.
However, there are 2 or 3 maneuvers that use the OMAC thrusters prior to docking.
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#37
by
Surfdaddy
on 20 May, 2022 03:21
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I have a question and although it's likely more Atlas related, the Starliner/Atlas is a "system".
Does it not seem that this launch system is inefficient from a payload perspective? This of course is even ignoring non-reusability of the launcher.
1 - The solids remain attached for some time, as dead weight, after burnout
2 - The skirt is additional weight that is eventually jettisoned. And the "hard edge" of the rear of the skirt can't exactly be optimally aerodynamic (although this may be a pretty small factor).
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#38
by
kdhilliard
on 20 May, 2022 03:23
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Can someone here please detail how many of what sort of thrusters a Starliner has and where they are located?
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#39
by
DanClemmensen
on 20 May, 2022 03:34
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I have a question and although it's likely more Atlas related, the Starliner/Atlas is a "system".
Does it not seem that this launch system is inefficient from a payload perspective? This of course is even ignoring non-reusability of the launcher.
1 - The solids remain attached for some time, as dead weight, after burnout
2 - The skirt is additional weight that is eventually jettisoned. And the "hard edge" of the rear of the skirt can't exactly be optimally aerodynamic (although this may be a pretty small factor).
Atlas V was not designed specifically for Starliner. It was designed to accommodate a wide range of payloads and is has successfully launched 150 missions. It is efficient in that you only use the number of SRBs that you need, from zero to 5. Starliner only needs two. Any flexible launch system will be less "efficient" than a co-designed launcher for a particular payload, but if you had to custom-design a launcher for each payload the cost would be even worse than it is today.
