Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 4-15 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 14 May 2022 (20:40 UTC)  (Read 58937 times)

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Here's the NGA notice matching the FAA information.

Quote from: NGA
051614Z MAY 22
NAVAREA IV 445/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   130508Z TO 130755Z MAY, ALTERNATE
   140447Z TO 140734Z, 150424Z TO 150711Z,
   160403Z TO 160650Z, 170341Z TO 170628Z,
   180320Z TO 180607Z AND 190258Z TO 190545Z MAY
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-36.93N 080-36.02W, 28-37.00N 080-36.00W,
      28-33.00N 080-25.00W, 28-16.00N 080-09.00W,
      28-14.00N 080-12.00W, 28-29.72N 080-32.67W.
   B. 25-22.00N 077-20.00W, 25-27.00N 077-14.00W,
      24-42.00N 076-15.00W, 24-34.00N 076-08.00W,
      24-12.00N 076-06.00W, 24-09.00N 076-09.00W,
      24-18.00N 076-29.00W, 24-25.00N 076-36.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 190645Z MAY 22.

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Map from the NGA notice.

It is impressive that all concerned have the confidence that SpaceX can thread this needle.
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Since Starlink group 4-15 is heading in a South East direction. Wonder how many Starlink comsats will be installed in the Falcon 9?

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Since Starlink group 4-15 is heading in a South East direction. Wonder how many Starlink comsats will be installed in the Falcon 9?

Several of the launches in that trajectory had 49 Starlink satellites. The mission after the solar storm took out 38 of the 49 satellites launched on 3 February 2022 was launched with 46 satellites and they were released at a higher orbit. Those might be the range of satellites launched on that mission.

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Map from the NGA notice.

It is impressive that all concerned have the confidence that SpaceX can thread this needle.

Will be impressive if they can maintain that keep-out area.   ;)

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Since Starlink group 4-15 is heading in a South East direction. Wonder how many Starlink comsats will be installed in the Falcon 9?

Without any kind of dogleg maneuver, this should have the same number of satellites than one going north.

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Since Starlink group 4-15 is heading in a South East direction. Wonder how many Starlink comsats will be installed in the Falcon 9?
Without any kind of dogleg maneuver, this should have the same number of satellites than one going north.
Do "we" think that there will be Spaceflight rideshares aboard?
Starlink 4-15 permit request finally showed up, and the drone ship location is a bit interesting.
0598-EX-ST-2022

Since this was filed after the permits for higher numbered flights, I'm wondering if it's the rideshare for Spaceflight.



This launch now follows Starlink 4-13 by approximately 7.5 hours.
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Map from the NGA notice.

It is impressive that all concerned have the confidence that SpaceX can thread this needle.

Will be impressive if they can maintain that keep-out area.   ;)

It certainly helps that they're launching at about 2 AM local time.
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Not fully sure about all the maritime laws, but are they landing in Bahamian territory and not international waters?

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Map from the NGA notice.

It is impressive that all concerned have the confidence that SpaceX can thread this needle.

Will be impressive if they can maintain that keep-out area.   ;)

It certainly helps that they're launching at about 2 AM local time.
My thought exactly.  We r just S of that area.  Conventional wisdom for most cruisers in the Bahamas is to not arrive at an anchorage after dark due to shallow coral heads.  However, travelling overnight to arrive first thing in the am is a thing.  The Exuma Sound is about 50 miles wide.  Not exactly a full overnight trip.  We did it yesterday in about 8 hours.  Sailboats don't scream along in winds around 10 Kts.  It's getting late in the cruising season here so boats r starting to Head N and E.  We r likely too far E and S now (Cat Island) to see the landing.  Not sure how they will enforce keep out unless uscg supplements Bahamian Def Force. 

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Ben Cooper update as of May 10:


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Falcon 9, May 14 @ daytime EDT
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Not sure how they will enforce keep out unless uscg supplements Bahamian Def Force. 

Is that a "keep out" area or simply an area where people are expected to make a judgement call (and keep a look out for falling rockets?

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Ben Cooper update as of May 10:


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One out, one in.

JRTI and Bob depart for Starlink 4-15, meanwhile Doug and ASOG are due in 2 - 4pm this afternoon with B1058 from Starlink 4-17.

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Ben Cooper update as of May 10:
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Falcon 9, May 14 @ daytime EDT
The time indicated by Ben Cooper is 20:38 UTC.

SFN Launch Schedule update May 9, confirms the new launch date and time [May 14 20:38 UTC = 4:38 pm EDT].
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This launch appears to be northeast now. Fleet departed and is heading that way.
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Here's the new cancel-and-replace NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA
NAVAREA IV 450/22(11, 26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
UNITED STATES.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   142028Z TO 142136Z MAY, ALTERNATE
   152006Z TO 152114Z, 161945Z TO 162053Z,
   171923Z TO 172031Z, 181902Z TO 182010Z,
   191840Z TO 191948Z AND 201819Z TO 201926Z MAY
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.25N 080-37.15W, 28-54.00N 080-18.00W,
      28-49.00N 080-14.00W, 28-36.00N 080-24.00W,
      28-31.59N 080-33.57W.
   B. 31-27.00N 077-29.00W, 33-17.00N 076-03.00W,
      33-31.00N 074-59.00W, 33-10.00N 074-36.00W,
      32-27.00N 074-46.00W, 31-15.00N 077-17.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA VI 445/22.   
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 202030Z MAY 22.

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The warning zones primary time period matches with the new launch date and time.

The off-shore warning zone now matches with the northeastern trajectory.

SFN Launch Schedule update May 9, confirms the new launch date and time [May 14 20:38 UTC = 4:38 pm EDT].

This launch appears to be northeast now. Fleet departed and is heading that way.

Here's the new cancel-and-replace NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA
NAVAREA IV 450/22(11, 26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
UNITED STATES.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   142028Z TO 142136Z MAY, ALTERNATE
   152006Z TO 152114Z, 161945Z TO 162053Z,
   171923Z TO 172031Z, 181902Z TO 182010Z,
   191840Z TO 191948Z AND 201819Z TO 201926Z MAY
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.25N 080-37.15W, 28-54.00N 080-18.00W,
      28-49.00N 080-14.00W, 28-36.00N 080-24.00W,
      28-31.59N 080-33.57W.
   B. 31-27.00N 077-29.00W, 33-17.00N 076-03.00W,
      33-31.00N 074-59.00W, 33-10.00N 074-36.00W,
      32-27.00N 074-46.00W, 31-15.00N 077-17.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA VI 445/22.   
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 202030Z MAY 22.



Edit: Can SpaceX change the launch and recovery plans this close to launch?
Edit 2: Yes, they can.

More particularly, the FCC frequency approval is for the southeastern trajectory.
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So the flight on the 14th may be 4-18?

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