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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 4-15 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 8 May 2022
« Reply #20 on: 04/27/2022 11:02 pm »
Worth noting that in the 5 years since that interview, the time between two Falcon 9 launches can be of single digit hours

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 4-15 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 8 May 2022
« Reply #21 on: 04/28/2022 06:14 pm »
Worth noting that in the 5 years since that interview, the time between two Falcon 9 launches can be of single digit hours

Cross-post re: Starlink 4-17; my bold:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html [Apr 28 update]
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FALCON 9

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a batch of Starlink satellites from pad 40 on April 29 at 5:33pm EDT. Then, a Falcon 9 will launch another Starlink batch from pad 39A on early May, in the morning EDT. Sunrise is 6:38am. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches on May TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Transporter-5 rideshare mission on late May, around mid-day EDT. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the CRS-25 resupply mission to the ISS on June 7 around 11:15am EDT.
The above should make Starlink 4-15 the second Space Coast F9 launch on May 8, later in the day.
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Scratch the post immediately above.  SFN Launch Schedule update, April 28 (one of many updates today):
Starlink 4-15 launches May 17 at 00:10 UTC = May 16 8:10 pm EDT.

(SFN entry has a typo, listing this launch as a duplicate Starlink 4-17.  Edit: Typo corrected.)

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Launch Photography Viewing Guide [Apr 29 update]
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Sunset is 8:06pm.
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Why was this launch delayed from May 8 to May 17 UTC?
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Why was this launch delayed from May 8 to May 17 UTC?

Unless SpaceX offers a public statement saying why, we will never know. There's a huge number of variables involved that could have caused some delay.
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Why was this launch delayed from May 8 to May 17 UTC?

Unless SpaceX offers a public statement saying why, we will never know. There's a huge number of variables involved that could have caused some delay.

Extra preflight checks, I presume?
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Could also be droneship related for all we know. or payload. Or hey - even not-previously-publicly-announced-short-notice-super-secret-national-security-zuma-like-launches that fall in the same timespan. Your coffe-grounds reading is as good as anyones ;)

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Next Spaceflight now indicates that new Falcon 9 1st stage B1073 will debut on this launch, as reported by us in an earlier article.
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So it's going to be the first dedicated Starlink mission with a new booster. To date there have been 43 dedicated Starlink launches, each of them with a flight-proven booster, and two more are planned before this one.
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So it's going to be the first dedicated Starlink mission with a new booster. To date there have been 43 dedicated Starlink launches, each of them with a flight-proven booster, and two more are planned before this one.

This strongly suggests customer requests for new boosters has greatly diminished as reuse has become fully accepted. Perhaps to the cross over point where proven boosters are requested and SpaceX now needs to flight prove new boosters with Starlink Missions. Demonstrates that rapid attitude change in the industry is possible given strong unequivocal evidence.

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The booster information for this rocket is wrong. A NASA Spaceflight article stated as such 2 months ago. B1073 is a Falcon heavy side booster, not a Falcon 9. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/03/spacex-booster-reuse-record-starlink/
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The booster information for this rocket is wrong. A NASA Spaceflight article stated as such 2 months ago. B1073 is a Falcon heavy side booster, not a Falcon 9. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/03/spacex-booster-reuse-record-starlink/

I already explained it elsewhere. Back at the time I wrote that article, the booster appeared to be by all means a FH side booster. I got to know just a few days after that it was not a FH side booster but rather a F9 booster and would debut on a Starlink mission this month, I wrote about it on the next article after that one you link to. The booster with it only having one SpaceX logo, no FH nor F9 logo did appear to be initially a FH side booster, hence me writing that initially, sorry for the confusion.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/04/starlink-4-14-launch/
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Booster reuse and production will also be key to achieving this goal. This mission’s booster, B1060, is the second to reach 12 flights with a third one expected to join a few weeks from now. New boosters are also being introduced into the fleet to help that cadence, with booster B1073 expected to debut next month on a Starlink mission.

More recently I was able to confirm the booster would fly on this mission, Starlink Group 4-15, and I updated nextspaceflight accordingly.
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The booster information for this rocket is wrong. A NASA Spaceflight article stated as such 2 months ago. B1073 is a Falcon heavy side booster, not a Falcon 9. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/03/spacex-booster-reuse-record-starlink/

I already explained it elsewhere. Back at the time I wrote that article, the booster appeared to be by all means a FH side booster. I got to know just a few days after that it was not a FH side booster but rather a F9 booster and would debut on a Starlink mission this month, I wrote about it on the next article after that one you link to. The booster with it only having one SpaceX logo, no FH nor F9 logo did appear to be initially a FH side booster, hence me writing that initially, sorry for the confusion.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/04/starlink-4-14-launch/
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Booster reuse and production will also be key to achieving this goal. This mission’s booster, B1060, is the second to reach 12 flights with a third one expected to join a few weeks from now. New boosters are also being introduced into the fleet to help that cadence, with booster B1073 expected to debut next month on a Starlink mission.

More recently I was able to confirm the booster would fly on this mission, Starlink Group 4-15, and I updated nextspaceflight accordingly.

Confirm how? Do you have a link?

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Enough with the "fan site" bashing of NextSpaceFlight.  We've already done 1 deletion and 1 edit in this thread in less than 24 hours.

Stephen Clark at SFN often does not source Launch Schedule updates in (or from) SFN articles.

Ben Cooper does not source his updates for the Launch Photography Viewing Guide.

They all use confidential sources, including NextSpaceFlight.

NextSpaceFlight is often first and correct in updates for near-term future American launches, and particularly SpaceX Falcon 9 and Heavy launches.  And, that's why we launch thread contributors source them in such launch threads in this forum.
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Moderator:
Enough with the "fan site" bashing of NextSpaceFlight.  We've already done 1 deletion and 1 edit in this thread in less than 24 hours.

Stephen Clark at SFN often does not source Launch Schedule updates in SFN articles.

Ben Cooper does not source his updates for the Launch Photography Viewing Guide.

They all use confidential sources, including NextSpaceFlight.

NextSpaceFlight is often first and correct in updates for near-term future American launches, and particularly SpaceX Falcon 9 and Heavy launches.  And, that's why we launch thread contributors source them in such launch threads in this forum.

Well said. Totally agree.
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The booster information for this rocket is wrong. A NASA Spaceflight article stated as such 2 months ago. B1073 is a Falcon heavy side booster, not a Falcon 9. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/03/spacex-booster-reuse-record-starlink/

I already explained it elsewhere. Back at the time I wrote that article, the booster appeared to be by all means a FH side booster. I got to know just a few days after that it was not a FH side booster but rather a F9 booster and would debut on a Starlink mission this month, I wrote about it on the next article after that one you link to. The booster with it only having one SpaceX logo, no FH nor F9 logo did appear to be initially a FH side booster, hence me writing that initially, sorry for the confusion.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/04/starlink-4-14-launch/
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Booster reuse and production will also be key to achieving this goal. This mission’s booster, B1060, is the second to reach 12 flights with a third one expected to join a few weeks from now. New boosters are also being introduced into the fleet to help that cadence, with booster B1073 expected to debut next month on a Starlink mission.

More recently I was able to confirm the booster would fly on this mission, Starlink Group 4-15, and I updated nextspaceflight accordingly.

Confirm how? Do you have a link?

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Will SpaceX change the date and time of this launch?

Yesterday, Ben Cooper had a specific EDT time,  May 15, on his Launch Photography site.  Circa 8 pm?  I didn't record it.

On May 6, that is replaced by "May TBD."
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Will SpaceX change the date and time of this launch?

Yesterday, Ben Cooper had a specific EDT time,  May 15, on his Launch Photography site.  Circa 8 pm?  I didn't record it.

On May 6, that is replaced by "May TBD."

Unless they plan on moving the launch forward, I doubt this can take off in May, due to the eventual conflict with Transporter-5.

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The FAA ATCSCC Operations Plan now has this (though it should be taken with a grain of salt):

Quote from: FAA
SPACEX STARLINK 4-15, CCSFS/KSC FLORIDA
PRIMARY:     05/13/22 0508-0755Z
BACKUP:      05/14/22 0447-0734Z
             05/15/22 0424-0711Z
             05/16/22 0403-0650Z
             05/17/22 0341-0628Z
             05/18/22 0320-0607Z
             05/19/22 0258/0545Z
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The FAA ATCSCC Operations Plan now has this (though it should be taken with a grain of salt):

Quote from: FAA
SPACEX STARLINK 4-15, CCSFS/KSC FLORIDA
PRIMARY:     05/13/22 0508-0755Z
BACKUP:      05/14/22 0447-0734Z
             05/15/22 0424-0711Z
             05/16/22 0403-0650Z
             05/17/22 0341-0628Z
             05/18/22 0320-0607Z
             05/19/22 0258/0545Z

Launch Photography Viewing Guide [May 7 update]
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FALCON 9

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a batch of Starlink satellites from pad 40 on May 13 around 2am EDT. Upcoming launches include Falcon 9s with the next batches of Starlink satellites. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Transporter-5 rideshare mission on May 25 at 2:25pm EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the CRS-25 resupply mission to the ISS on June 7 at 11:30am EDT.
= ~06:00 May 13 UTC



Given ASDS turnaround times, I deduce that Just Read the Instructions will take the first stage recovery.  (15 days vs. 7 days for ASOG)
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