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SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
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GWR64
on 13 Aug, 2021 19:50
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Discussion Thread for launch of SES-22
NSF Threads for SES-22 :
DiscussionLaunch is successful on June 29, 2022 at 21:04 UTC (5:04 pm EDT) on a Falcon 9 from Cape Canaveral SFS SLC-40 to GTO. The first stage is 1073.2; a successful recovery of same aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas. Fairing halves were each flying for the second time.SES-22Thales Alenia Space will build SES-22 and SES-23 satellites
07 Aug 2020
Thales Alenia Space Telecommunications satellites
Cannes, 7 August, 2020 – Thales Alenia Space, a joint-venture between Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), announced that it has signed a contract with SES to build SES-22 and SES-23, geostationary communications satellites. These two new satellites are designed to provide digital broadcasting services over North America.
Thales Alenia Space will be responsible for the design, production, testing of the satellites and support of the payload in-orbit acceptance tests. SES-22 and SES-23 are based on the proven Spacebus 4000 B2 platform and will be 3.5-ton class satellites at launch.
These satellites are the 11th and 12th satellites based on the Spacebus 4000 B2 platform to be built by Thales Alenia Space. The two satellites will help SES meet the Federal Communications Commission’s accelerated C-band clearing deadlines in the United States and will contribute to the effort to clear spectrum necessary to roll out 5G in the United States.
Hervé Derrey, President and Chief Executive Officer of Thales Alenia Space, said “The robustness and flight proven heritage of our Spacebus 4000 B2 platform, combined with our ability to timely and quickly deliver SES-22 and SES-23, have been key elements leading to the decision of SES working with us to replace its existing C-Band fleet. This demonstrates Thales Alenia Space’s expertise in developing tailored solutions that meet each operator’s specific needs to clear the C-Band spectrum.”
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press_release/thales-alenia-space-will-build-ses-22-and-ses-23-satellites
SES Selects SpaceX for Launch of New C-Band Satellites
Luxembourg, 5 August 2020 – SES, the leader in global content connectivity solutions, announced today that American launch provider SpaceX will provide launch capability for up to 3 of its C-band satellites over two launches as part of the company’s accelerated C-band clearing plan. SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket will launch two C-band satellites built by Northrop Grumman as well as provide enhanced protection to rapidly launch a contingency satellite from Cape Canaveral, Florida in 2022 allowing SES to meet the Federal Communications Commission’s time-critical objective to roll out 5G services across the United States.
In June, SES announced it contracted American companies Northrop Grumman and the Boeing Company to deliver four C-band satellites in accordance with SES’s accelerated C-band clearing plan. These satellites will enable SES to clear 280MHz of mid-band spectrum for 5G use while seamlessly migrating SES’s existing C-band customers and ensuring the continued delivery of digital television to nearly 120 million American TV homes and other critical data services.
In the last few months, SES has been increasingly working with U.S. businesses across the country and investing in America in the C-band transition plan, and its long-standing relationship with SpaceX signifies its latest commitment to the U.S. SpaceX has launched six SES satellites in the last seven years.
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SpaceX President and Chief Operating Officer Gwynne Shotwell noted, “SES is one of SpaceX‘s most-valued partners, and we are proud of their continued trust in our capabilities to reliably deliver their satellites to orbit. We are excited to once again play a role in executing SES’s solutions to meet their customers’ needs.”
SES Selects Two U.S. Companies to Build Four New Satellites as Part of Accelerated C-Band Clearing Plan
June 16, 2020
Northrop Grumman will deliver two flight-proven GeoStar-3 satellites, each equipped with a high-quality C-band payload to deliver the superior customer experience that end users are accustomed to. The two satellites – SES-18 and SES-19 – will be designed, assembled and tested in Dulles, Virginia.
The Boeing Company will deliver a pair of highly efficient all-electric 702SP satellites. The two satellites – SES-20 and SES-21 – will be manufactured and assembled in Los Angeles, California.
These four C-band only new satellites will enable SES to clear 280 MHz of mid-band spectrum for 5G use while seamlessly migrating SES’s existing C-band customers. Each satellite will have 10 primary transponders of 36 MHz plus back-up tubes so they can enable the broadcast delivery of digital television to more than 120 million TV homes as well as provide critical data services. The satellites, when launched in Q3 2022, will be positioned at 103 degrees West, 131 degrees West and 135 degrees West orbital slots. The cost of manufacturing these four satellites is part of the USD 1.6 billion investment envelope that SES has announced in May.
https://www.ses.com/company/c-band-transition-plan-us/ses-transition-planhttps://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2021-07/SES%20July%202021%20Transition%20Plan.pdfoff topic question:...To provide assurance to customers that it can maintain service continuity, and consistent with its August 2020 Transition Plan, SES contracted with Thales Alenia Space France in June 2020 to manufacture two ground spares. The manufacturing of the first ground spare satellite (SES-22) started immediately in order to be ready for launch within a few weeks after any potential launch failure of one of the first two dual launches (described below). The manufacturing of the second ground spare (SES-23) began on June 1, 2021, consistent with the SES contingency fleet plan. Subject to the successful launch and deployment of the first four satellites included in this Transition Plan, SES will then determine whether or not to finalize the second ground spare program and will seek reimbursement only for the costs incurred until that moment for the second ground spare program, including termination liability. ...
So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?
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#1
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gongora
on 13 Aug, 2021 20:38
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So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?
I haven't heard anything, but I would guess they paid something to get an option in one or both of their launch contracts for another flight in the appropriate time period if it's needed. The penalty for missing the deployment deadline is huge.
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#2
by
russianhalo117
on 13 Aug, 2021 21:13
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So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?
I haven't heard anything, but I would guess they paid something to get an option in one or both of their launch contracts for another flight in the appropriate time period if it's needed. The penalty for missing the deployment deadline is huge.
The penalty from the FCC retiring or relocation of sats to clear the reallocated bands is greater and the contracts were developed with hot spares ready in storage are part of the plan the spare satellite options can either be terminated or launched to additional coverage locations via an additional launch contract. At this time both options remain available to SES.
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#3
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baldusi
on 14 Aug, 2021 17:46
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The payload is probably a sunk cost. But the rest of the GEO will probably be sold to another client. I would assume this will give a very nice competitive advantage to Thales for any next GEO procurement.
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#4
by
GWR64
on 25 Feb, 2022 21:58
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So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?
I haven't heard anything, but I would guess they paid something to get an option in one or both of their launch contracts for another flight in the appropriate time period if it's needed. The penalty for missing the deployment deadline is huge.
SES-22 launch soon in Q2/2022. Now who is the launch provider?
https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2022-02/SES%20Full%20Year%202021%20Results_0.pdf
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#5
by
GWR64
on 26 Feb, 2022 19:39
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um, am i blind?
It's already in the opening post
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SES Selects SpaceX for Launch of New C-Band Satellites
Luxembourg, 5 August 2020 – SES, the leader in global content connectivity solutions, announced today that American launch provider SpaceX will provide launch capability for up to 3 of its C-band satellites over two launches as part of the company’s accelerated C-band clearing plan. SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket will launch two C-band satellites built by Northrop Grumman as well as provide enhanced protection to rapidly launch a contingency satellite from Cape Canaveral, Florida in 2022 allowing SES to meet the Federal Communications Commission’s time-critical objective to roll out 5G services across the United States.
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So SES-22 on Falcon 9 or I'll eat a broom.
I'll stop off topic now
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#6
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gongora
on 27 Feb, 2022 01:40
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I'm missing where the launch provider was announced.
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#7
by
GWR64
on 27 Feb, 2022 09:02
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#8
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gongora
on 27 Feb, 2022 13:53
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So we don't actually know that this is flying with SpaceX?
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#9
by
scr00chy
on 27 Feb, 2022 14:22
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So we don't actually know that this is flying with SpaceX?
Not for sure, but it seems likely, considering it's launching soon and we haven't heard about any new launch contracts. SES already has an option with SpaceX for the launch of a third satellite, so that's likely how SES-22 is being launched.
Also,
Gunter lists SES-22 as launching on F9, but that might be a recent change based on this very thread, so not necessarily proof.
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#10
by
GWR64
on 27 Feb, 2022 14:42
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#11
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zubenelgenubi
on 27 Feb, 2022 19:52
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I added a "?" to the thread title for clarity re: launch vehicle.
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#12
by
GWR64
on 09 Mar, 2022 19:41
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https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/news/meet-berangere-bergogne-program-manager-communications-satellitesMeet Bérangère Bergogne, Program Manager for communications satellites
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Can you tell us more about the SES-22 program?
It’s hard to dissociate SES-22 from SES-23, as both satellites are set to deliver direct-to-home broadcast services in North America. They will enable SES to meet the deadline set by the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to free up C-band spectrum required to deploy 5G in the United States. So it’s a strategic program for our customer. The common denominator between the two satellites is Thales Alenia Space’s proven Spacebus 4000 B2 platform. Both identical, SES-22 and SES-23 are the 11th and 12th satellites built around this bus, so it’s a mature technology that has proved robust and reliable over the years. And because it’s a tried-and-tested technology, we’ll be able to deliver a geostationary satellite within two years or less.
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#13
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gongora
on 19 Mar, 2022 12:25
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SES-22 is currently scheduled for July launch according to a recent FCC filing. Launch vehicle has still not been announced.
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#14
by
Conexion Espacial
on 19 Mar, 2022 12:28
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SES-22 is currently scheduled for July launch according to a recent FCC filing. Launch vehicle has still not been announced.
Do we know if it will travel alone or will it be accompanied by SES-23?
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#15
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Yiosie
on 19 Mar, 2022 19:04
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SES-22 is currently scheduled for July launch according to a recent FCC filing. Launch vehicle has still not been announced.
SAT-LOA-20220315-00030Application Narrative attached below.
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#16
by
GWR64
on 20 Mar, 2022 07:09
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Do we know if it will travel alone or will it be accompanied by SES-23?
The assembly of SES-23 was started later.
It is unclear whether it will be completed at all.
... Construction of SES-23 began on June 1, 2021. Subject to the
successful launch and deployment of the first four satellites included in the Transition Plan, SES
will then determine whether or not to finalize the SES-23 program and will seek reimbursement
only for the costs incurred until that moment for the second ground spare program, including
termination liability.
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The launcher for SES-23 has not been selected yet.
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https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2021-12/SES%20Quarterly%20Report%20-%2012.21.21.pdf
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#17
by
GWR64
on 20 Mar, 2022 07:55
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SES-22 end of operation mass is
1284 kg
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#18
by
GWR64
on 24 Mar, 2022 18:03
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#19
by
Ken the Bin
on 24 Mar, 2022 18:57
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@zubenelgenubi:
Could you please remove the question mark?
Thank you very much.
You can remove it yourself. The topic subject is the subject of the original post. So just go to your original post that started this topic, click Modify, and change the subject as desired.
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#20
by
GWR64
on 02 Apr, 2022 12:34
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#21
by
baldusi
on 02 Apr, 2022 17:05
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#22
by
Spiffles
on 03 Apr, 2022 03:03
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Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.
https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052
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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.
This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.
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#23
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baldusi
on 03 Apr, 2022 16:05
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Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.
https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052
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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.
This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.
I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
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#24
by
Zed_Noir
on 04 Apr, 2022 07:31
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Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.
https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052
Firefox->view->page style->no style
I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.
This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.
I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
The pressurized cargo hold is part of the An-124 Condor's military air transport heritage. One of the task was moving armored fighting vehicles with crew. Also with all heavy military air transport aircraft and their variants with civilian operators.
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#25
by
darkenfast
on 04 Apr, 2022 07:42
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Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.
https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052
Firefox->view->page style->no style
I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.
This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.
I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
The pressurized cargo hold is part of the An-124 Condor's military air transport heritage. One of the task was moving armored fighting vehicles with crew. Also with all heavy military air transport aircraft and their variants with civilian operators.
The cargo hold is pressurized, but at a lower level of pressure than the forward cockpit/crew area and the aft passenger area (both on the upper deck). In one of the YT AN-124 videos, you can see them closing the hatch that gives access from the cockpit to the hold.
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#26
by
baldusi
on 04 Apr, 2022 18:50
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Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.
https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052
Firefox->view->page style->no style
I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.
This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.
I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
The pressurized cargo hold is part of the An-124 Condor's military air transport heritage. One of the task was moving armored fighting vehicles with crew. Also with all heavy military air transport aircraft and their variants with civilian operators.
The cargo hold is pressurized, but at a lower level of pressure than the forward cockpit/crew area and the aft passenger area (both on the upper deck). In one of the YT AN-124 videos, you can see them closing the hatch that gives access from the cockpit to the hold.
I've read that it is pressurized at 24.6 kPa (3.57 psi), while ambient at 30,000ft is 29.65 kPa (4.3psi). So, basically not pressurized.
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#27
by
gongora
on 07 Apr, 2022 15:46
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[Space News] Antonov shortage threatens delivery delays for the biggest satellites [Apr 7]
SES told SpaceNews it now plans to use a boat instead of an Antonov to transport its SES-22 C-band satellite from Europe to the U.S., where it is slated to launch from Florida on a SpaceX Falcon 9.
Although traveling via the ocean will take weeks longer, SES spokesperson Suzanne Ong said the satellite remains on track to launch before the end of June.
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#28
by
zubenelgenubi
on 15 Apr, 2022 20:01
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#29
by
zubenelgenubi
on 20 Apr, 2022 20:34
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SFN Launch Schedule update, April 20 (one of many):
SES-22 launches from CCSFS SLC-40 in June/July 2022.
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#30
by
zubenelgenubi
on 06 May, 2022 11:50
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The launch of
SES-22 is still scheduled for Q2 2022.
https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2022-05/SES%20Q1%202022%20Results.pdf
SES-22 NLT mid June, or else its launch with ASDS landing would have to wait until after the dual-ASDS launch of
USSF-44?
Another thought springing from Nilesat 301 being the 1049.11 expendable launch, from SLC-40:
This may launch in late June, after Starlink 4-19 (NET June 10, likely from SLC-40), and perhaps SES-22 (June, also from SLC-40).
(Starlink 4-19 will be a "usual" Starlink northeastern trajectory launch with first stage ASDS landing. SES-22 would launch due east, with ASDS first stage landing.)
If so, then after the Nilesat-301 launch, there is no need to hurry an ASDS with landed first stage back to Port Canaveral, to make a turnaround to catch one of the side boosters for USSF-44, also in late June, from LC-39A.
The two launch campaigns can proceed simultaneously, if necessary.
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#31
by
GWR64
on 12 May, 2022 17:31
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SES-22 Media GallerySES-22 was loaded onto the
CELTIC in Fos sur Mer. Nilesat 301 should also be on board.
The CELTIC is expected in Cape Canaveral around May 14th.
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#32
by
scr00chy
on 13 May, 2022 20:58
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#33
by
zubenelgenubi
on 13 May, 2022 22:04
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I wonder if the 2 geocomsats will launch back-to-back from SLC-40?
Partial cross-post:
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If I remember correctly, foreign manufactured or owned satellites launch from SLC-40 because the ITAR accommodations are easier at the Space Force Station than at the adjacent NASA center.
Nilesat-301 is now launching (NET) June 7 (the same date as SpX-25 from LC-39A).
SES-22 arrives on the same cargo ship as Nilesat-301, circa May 14. SES-22 should be ready to launch at virtually the same time as its ocean travel companion.
I predict that, without any difficulties between now and early June, that the SES-22 launch will immediately follow Nilesat-301 at SLC-40, in mid June, as soon as the pad can be turned around.
There is no need to wait for an ASDS to be free, as only one will be used earlier in June, for SpX-25. Nilesat-301 is an expendable launch.
<snip>
Edit May 26: Apparently, yes, they will.
No booster assignment yet for
SES-22-- which one might it be? Will SES pay for a Static Fire?
Rotating forward the boosters by oldest available after previous recovery, but not already assigned, gives us: 1051.13 (March 19), 1060.13 (April 21), 1062.7 (April 29), and 1058.13 (May 6).
Edit May 26: Also, 1073.2 (May 14), 1052.6 (May 18), and perhaps 1061.9 (May 25).
Edit May 20:
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Starlink Group 4-19 looking like mid June (I'd bet on LC-39A for that one) and using B1060-13
<snip>
And then in July and sort of in this order:
<snip>
Starlink Group 4-21 from Florida (I'd say pad 40 is likely) using B1058-13
<snip>
Starlink Group 4-25 from Florida (betting all my money on pad 40 for this one) using B1051-13
1062.7 may be held back for
SES-22, to give an "external" customer a lower-reuse booster.
Edit May 26:
So remember that thing about B1049-11 being expended for Nilesat 301? Well, that has changed. This booster surely likes to change missions. Nilesat 301 is now launching on B1062-7 which previously flew on Starlink Group 4-16 in late April.
What about another lower-reuse booster: 1073.2?
Edit early June: A previously unknown F9 launch in June has appeared, requiring ASDS first stage recovery. On June 6, we learned that the primary payload is a government satellite or satellites. On June 7, we learned that a
Globalstar-2 satellite would be a rideshare.
My guess is that 1073.2 will serve the above-mentioned launch. I therefore also deduce 1052.6 will launch
SES-22.
If repairs from the previous December 21 landing have been completed, then 1069.2 is available.
Edit May 20:
Oh I forgot... B1069-2 is flying on Starlink Group 4-26. NET August from Florida.
Static Fire for the above, if SES chooses against paying for it? My predictions.
No:
1051.13, 1052.6,
1058.13,
1060.13, 1061.9,
1062.7, 1073.2
Yes: 1069.2 (first launch after extensive repairs)Edit May 20:
1062.7?Edit May 26: 1073.2?
Edit early June: 1052.6?
No Static Fire means the booster is first and only transported to the pad, with payload stacked, a day or less before liftoff.
Edit June 15: It's 1073.2 for this launch.
Edit June 29: 1073.2 transported to and erected at pad today, the launch day. No Static Fire.
Edited multiple times
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#34
by
Rondaz
on 14 May, 2022 17:37
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#35
by
zubenelgenubi
on 17 May, 2022 16:12
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SFN,
Geostationary comsats delivered to Florida for SpaceX launches in June, dated May 16
Nilesat 301 is scheduled for liftoff June 10 from pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, and SES 22 is set for launch in late June.
<snip>
The launch schedule for SES 22 was not impacted by the change in transport plans, according to a spokesperson for SES, the Luxembourg company that owns the satellite.
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#36
by
GWR64
on 26 May, 2022 10:23
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#37
by
crandles57
on 02 Jun, 2022 12:32
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#38
by
zubenelgenubi
on 02 Jun, 2022 16:16
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Cross-post (my opinion):
The launch time-of-day of SES-22 could fall in the time period of June 27 8:00 pm to 11:59 pm EDT = June 28 00:00 to 03:59 UTC. That would make both June 27 or 28 the launch date, depending on the time zone referenced.
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#39
by
gongora
on 02 Jun, 2022 16:29
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link above no longer working - is this indication it was replaced?
The initial links for the "INTR" file numbers go away when the real file number is assigned. New numbers for those filings:
SES-STA-20220524-00597SES-STA-20220524-00598
SES-STA-20220601-00602
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#40
by
ddspaceman
on 03 Jun, 2022 14:19
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#41
by
zubenelgenubi
on 03 Jun, 2022 22:45
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#42
by
zubenelgenubi
on 08 Jun, 2022 20:35
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Cross-post; note two Falcon 9 launches from Florida on the same day.
SFN Globalstar spare satellite to launch on SpaceX rocket this month, June 7
Here’s a snapshot of the Falcon 9 launch schedule for June, as of Tuesday [June 7]:
• June 8: Nilesat 301 from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida
• Mid-June: Globalstar FM15 from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida
• June 18: SARah 1 from SLC-4E at Vandenberg Space Force Base, California
• Mid-June: Starlink 4-19 from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center, Florida
• June 28: CRS-25 from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center, Florida
• June 28: SES 22 from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida
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#43
by
Conexion Espacial
on 11 Jun, 2022 20:48
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#44
by
zubenelgenubi
on 14 Jun, 2022 22:42
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NextSpaceFlight indicates launch at 21:00 UTC.
Launch time clarified: 21:04 UTC, June 14 update.
(No mention of launch window yet.)
SFN Launch Schedule, also updated June 14, concurs.
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#45
by
Josh_from_Canada
on 15 Jun, 2022 06:18
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#46
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 20 Jun, 2022 17:21
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twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/1538933533829484544
A previously-flown Falcon 9 booster for an upcoming mission is heading toward one of SpaceX’s launch pads as NASA’s Artemis 1 moon rocket is fueled up for today’s countdown dress rehearsal.
Watch our ongoing live stream: youtube.com/watch?v=wRJhPd…
https://twitter.com/stephenclark1/status/1538933674384805888This appeared to be B1073 heading for pad 40 for the SES-22 launch later this month.
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#47
by
SpaceFinnOriginal
on 22 Jun, 2022 16:43
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Have SES released own mission patch or only SpaceX does it for tis mission?
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#48
by
Clavin
on 24 Jun, 2022 11:59
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#49
by
zubenelgenubi
on 24 Jun, 2022 17:05
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It's almost time for the first SES launch of this year! 🚀🛰️
We're thrilled to announce SES-22, our first C-band satellite dedicated to the U.S., is scheduled to launch next week.👇
🗓️ 29 June
🕔 17:04 EDT / 23:04 CEST
🚀 @SpaceX
There is a mission patch attached to a reply tweet.
Is it legit?
If so, could someone save it as an attachment here?
Thank you.
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#50
by
Fmedici
on 24 Jun, 2022 17:23
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It's almost time for the first SES launch of this year! 🚀🛰️
We're thrilled to announce SES-22, our first C-band satellite dedicated to the U.S., is scheduled to launch next week.👇
🗓️ 29 June
🕔 17:04 EDT / 23:04 CEST
🚀 @SpaceX
There is a mission patch attached to a reply tweet.
Is it legit?
If so, could someone save it as an attachment here?
Thank you.
I doesn't seem official tbh, it lacks the four-leafs clover that is always on Spacex's patches.
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#51
by
Rondaz
on 24 Jun, 2022 17:41
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#52
by
Clavin
on 24 Jun, 2022 18:08
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It's almost time for the first SES launch of this year! 🚀🛰️
We're thrilled to announce SES-22, our first C-band satellite dedicated to the U.S., is scheduled to launch next week.👇
🗓️ 29 June
🕔 17:04 EDT / 23:04 CEST
🚀 @SpaceX
There is a mission patch attached to a reply tweet.
Is it legit?
If so, could someone save it as an attachment here?
Thank you.
I am Pretty sure its not, couldn't find it anywhere else.
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#53
by
SPKirsch
on 25 Jun, 2022 01:23
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#54
by
Ken the Bin
on 25 Jun, 2022 04:10
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NGA notice.
221739Z JUN 22
NAVAREA IV 601/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
292103Z TO 300001Z JUN, ALTERNATE
2103Z TO 0001Z DAILY 30 JUN THRU 04 JUL
IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-36.10N 080-35.28W, 28-37.00N 080-29.00W,
28-33.00N 080-05.00W, 28-30.00N 080-05.00W,
28-30.00N 080-24.00W, 28-31.60N 080-33.57W.
B. 27-45.00N 075-48.00W, 28-12.00N 075-45.00W,
28-19.00N 072-08.00W, 28-01.00N 071-36.00W,
27-27.00N 071-42.00W, 27-11.00N 072-23.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050101Z JUL 22.
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#55
by
OneSpeed
on 25 Jun, 2022 07:25
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Map from the NGA notice. Assuming this is mission 1590, the ASDS will be 667km downrange, but the fairings are a guess.
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#56
by
zubenelgenubi
on 25 Jun, 2022 16:06
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Map from the NGA notice. Assuming this is mission 1590, the ASDS will be 667km downrange, but the fairings are a guess.
0881-EX-ST-2022
Mission 1590, NET late June
Low inclination with ASDS landing, North 27 47 53 West 73 50 48
Nilesat?
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#57
by
Rondaz
on 25 Jun, 2022 17:40
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Launch Hazard Areas for #SES-22 mission from CCSFS SLC-40, valid for NET 29 June 21:04 UTC, alternatively 30 June to 04 July based on issued NOTMAR. Booster 1073.2 landing 666km downrange. Estimated fairing recovery position approx. 782km downrange.
https://twitter.com/Raul74Cz/status/1540693896807600131
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#58
by
Clavin
on 26 Jun, 2022 15:38
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#59
by
zubenelgenubi
on 26 Jun, 2022 17:41
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Looking Good [L-3 forecast]
Launch appears to have a 2-hour, 10 minutes launch window: 21:03 to 23:13 UTC.
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#60
by
Ken the Bin
on 27 Jun, 2022 13:47
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L-2 weather forecast. 80% 'Go' for June 29. 60% 'Go' for June 30. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.
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#61
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 27 Jun, 2022 15:05
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#62
by
Clavin
on 28 Jun, 2022 09:30
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#63
by
Rondaz
on 28 Jun, 2022 13:47
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#64
by
Clavin
on 28 Jun, 2022 14:13
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L-1 Weather Forecast . 80% 'Go' for June 29. 60% 'Go' for June 30. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.
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#65
by
Rondaz
on 28 Jun, 2022 15:24
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#66
by
Rondaz
on 28 Jun, 2022 20:19
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#67
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 28 Jun, 2022 22:46
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#68
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 28 Jun, 2022 22:47
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#69
by
SPKirsch
on 29 Jun, 2022 00:43
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http://spacex.com/launches/ses-22/SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, June 29 for launch of SES-22 to a geosynchronous transfer orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The two-hour launch window opens at 5:04 p.m. ET, 21:04 UTC. A backup launch opportunity is available on Thursday, June 30 with the same window.
The Falcon 9 first stage booster supporting this mission previously supported the launch of one Starlink mission. After stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.
A live webcast of this mission will begin about 10 minutes prior to liftoff.
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#70
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 01:14
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#71
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 12:51
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#72
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 14:36
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#73
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 16:18
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#74
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 16:19
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#75
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 16:20
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#76
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 16:33
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#77
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 17:11
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#78
by
soltasto
on 29 Jun, 2022 17:13
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"Press kit" capture with OCR
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#79
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 18:00
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#80
by
Conexion Espacial
on 29 Jun, 2022 20:23
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SES-22 Mission Control Audio
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#81
by
ZachS09
on 29 Jun, 2022 20:29
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#82
by
SPKirsch
on 29 Jun, 2022 20:46
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#83
by
Conexion Espacial
on 29 Jun, 2022 20:49
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The livestream has already started, accompanied by new music.
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#84
by
wannamoonbase
on 29 Jun, 2022 20:57
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ASDS video looks incredible, gotta love that Starlink datalink!
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#85
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:05
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#86
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:09
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#87
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:14
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#88
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:17
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#89
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:18
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#90
by
Rondaz
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:19
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#91
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:21
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#92
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:34
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#93
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:34
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What was the launch time to the second?
What is the fate of the second stage?
One more burn to reenter over a remote ocean? Or, burn to lower perigee as much as possible?
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#94
by
alugobi
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:34
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Little dogleg there on that burn.
Edit: upward, it appears.
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#95
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 21:39
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#96
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:00
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If there had been a launch scrub today, another opportunity would have been tomorrow, same time.
Screen captures from the SpaceX webcast.
Countdown before launch:
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#97
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:06
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#98
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:10
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MECO > stage 1/2 separation > SES-1 > fairing separation
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#99
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:14
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Second stage burn, and first stage reentry.
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#100
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:15
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First stage landing and second stage attains orbit.
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#101
by
zubenelgenubi
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:20
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Second stage coasts > SES-2 > spacecraft separation.
Congratulations to the entire launch campaign team!
And thank you, NSF webcasters, for a great show. 👍
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#102
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:22
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#103
by
gongora
on 29 Jun, 2022 22:41
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#104
by
ChrisC
on 30 Jun, 2022 00:04
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SES-22 Mission Control Audio
Well, they switched that YouTube feed to private or deleted it. Was there a new one? It's not showing up in their YouTube channel, although they usually hide it after the launch (instead of deleting it) . I wanted to watch the ground track move during the inclination plane change burn.
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#105
by
Conexion Espacial
on 30 Jun, 2022 00:05
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#106
by
Conexion Espacial
on 30 Jun, 2022 00:05
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#107
by
gongora
on 30 Jun, 2022 00:32
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#108
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 00:54
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#109
by
OneSpeed
on 30 Jun, 2022 03:39
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16.54deg, 310 x 35,627km
About GTO-1600
The ΔV requirement for the plane change from 28.5° to 16.5° in LEO is about 1,580m/s. With a payload mass of only 3.5t there was plenty of performance available to not only achieve GEO-1600, but to perform this simultaneous dogleg, which is apparent in the attached before and after stills from the webcast.
Although there were a couple of video stutters on re-entry, the telemetry data was solid, as you can see from the attached plots.
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#110
by
su27k
on 30 Jun, 2022 03:47
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https://twitter.com/CHenry_QA/status/1540308222640275456Fun fact, SES ordered six C-band satellites (2 each from Boeing, Northrop and Thales Alenia Space), but the TAS spacecraft were supposed to be "“contingency satellites.” Instead TAS is first in line to launch as SES clears spectrum for a ~$4 billion payout. (1/2)
At the time of the contract award (August 2020), SES was under pressure to "buy American," and really downplayed the TAS satellite order as a backup deal. But TAS finished SES-22 in less than 22 months, which is pretty impressive for a GEO satellite, esp. w/ supply chain issues.
Which drives home an important point: I've been hearing for the past year that European satellite manufacturers are outperforming their U.S. competitors. SES-22 is another indication that Europe is excelling at GEO satellite builds.
Ok this is a longer thread than planned, but that's life.
Here's a link to an article about when Thales Alenia first won this contract. SES didn't even issue a press release at the time because they were only hyping up U.S. contracts. End 🧵.
https://spacenews.com/ses-taps-thales-alenia-space-for-final-two-c-band-replacement-satellites/
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#111
by
Slothman
on 30 Jun, 2022 06:22
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Is it me or was that booster landing particularly soft this time? Maybe with the incredible quality of video feed it just looks better than before, but that little slide at the end with the legs barely touching tells me that the touchdown was very soft.
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#112
by
OneSpeed
on 30 Jun, 2022 07:00
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Is it me or was that booster landing particularly soft this time? Maybe with the incredible quality of video feed it just looks better than before, but that little slide at the end with the legs barely touching tells me that the touchdown was very soft.
With Starlink 4-19 there was a major step up in telemetry and video integrity for ASDS landings, courtesy of the Starlink network itself. The feed is now often as smooth and consistent as the RTLS landings.
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#113
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 09:50
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#114
by
Vettedrmr
on 30 Jun, 2022 11:48
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Is it me or was that booster landing particularly soft this time? Maybe with the incredible quality of video feed it just looks better than before, but that little slide at the end with the legs barely touching tells me that the touchdown was very soft.
I noticed that too. IMO it's just the greatly improved video quality. But also variability in ASDS vertical elevation (i.e. riding the waves) probably worked out on this one to make for a perfect landing.
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#115
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 30 Jun, 2022 15:17
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#116
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 16:19
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#117
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 16:20
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#118
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 16:23
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#119
by
ChrisC
on 30 Jun, 2022 18:07
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People always seem to be curious about how loud launches get. Well, here's how loud today's launch of SES-22 was from the press viewing about 3 miles away. (embedded Tweet)
For the record, the video showed mostly high 90s dBA with a couple peaks at 106 dBA.
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#120
by
Orbiter
on 30 Jun, 2022 18:10
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People always seem to be curious about how loud launches get. Well, here's how loud today's launch of SES-22 was from the press viewing about 3 miles away. (embedded Tweet)
For the record, the video showed mostly high 90s dBA with a couple peaks at 106 dBA.
Sound from the press site definitely varies. Crew-4 left my ears ringing. But I've been to launches from that distance where the sound is barely louder than the crowd.
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#121
by
Lewis007
on 30 Jun, 2022 19:05
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#122
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 30 Jun, 2022 19:32
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SpaceX launch photos by Ben Cooper
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#123
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 20:22
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#124
by
Rondaz
on 30 Jun, 2022 20:24
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A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship is now getting underway from the LZ towards Port Canaveral with B1073.
Doug towed ASOG out but tug Finn Falgout has the honor of towing it back in for what will be its final mission with SpaceX. Arrival Jul 2-3.
https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1542560786085810196
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#125
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 01 Jul, 2022 06:48
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16.54deg, 310 x 35,627km
About GTO-1600
I calculate 1602 m/s. :-)
Enter initial perigee height (km): 310
Enter initial apogee height (km): 35627
Enter required inclination change (deg): 16.54
Enter final orbit height (km): -1
Geosynchronous altitude = 35786.0 km
Burn at 310.0 km: theta1 = 0.00 deg, dv1 = 2.6 m/s
Burn at 35786.0 km: theta2 = 16.54 deg, dv2 = 1599.3 m/s
dv = 1602.0 m/s
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#126
by
Rondaz
on 01 Jul, 2022 17:31
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#127
by
Rondaz
on 01 Jul, 2022 20:47
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#128
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 02 Jul, 2022 14:17
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#129
by
Rondaz
on 03 Jul, 2022 00:27
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#130
by
Rondaz
on 03 Jul, 2022 09:45
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#131
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 03 Jul, 2022 10:56
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#132
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 03 Jul, 2022 11:12
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#133
by
Rondaz
on 03 Jul, 2022 14:18
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#134
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 06 Jul, 2022 19:57
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#135
by
gongora
on 08 Aug, 2022 16:46
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#136
by
GWR64
on 18 May, 2024 20:04
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SES relocates SES-22 to 139°W.
REQUEST FOR AUTHORITY TO RELOCATE SES-22
SES-22 is a U.S.-licensed C-band satellite that currently operates at 135° W.L. To
better serve existing and future customers, SES proposes to relocate SES-22 from 135° W.L. to
139° W.L., where it will supplement the service provided by the AMC-6 space station. SES will
continue to provide C-band capacity at the nominal 135° W.L. orbital location using SES-19,
which operates at 134.9° W.L.
SAT-MOD-20240306-00048