ARIANE 6: 🎉 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🎉 We’re proud to announce that Exolaunch has successfully deployed 4 satellites into their target orbits for @esa , @NASA, @spacemanictech, @istecnico, @tuke_sk, and @la_UPC, aboard the historic #Ariane6 launch!
Today’s launch marks a monumental moment as Europe returns to space, showcasing the incredible skill and collaboration within the European space community.
Big thanks to @esa , @Arianespace, and @CNES for a smooth ride to orbit! We’re proud to be part of this mission and celebrate such a historic milestone together.📸 : @esa
Well, if they had tried to recover the fairings, they might have saved a few euros . . . I'm sure those things don't cost much under $10m for the pair.I got the idea when I saw that one fairing of theirs float down. It seemed to be clapping hands.Hey, now there's a business idea! Offer to recover all the expendable's fairings! Better still, build their fairings for them, so they can be recovered.Hang on, I need to call my VC pimp.
Quote from: jdon759 on 07/10/2024 02:39 amSurely naming the thread "Partial failure: ..." would be the clearest option?It was clearly a successful inaugural launch. The failure was during the on-orbit upper stage "Demo Phase", preventing a deorbit burn. Similar to, for example, a few early successful Falcon 9 launches that saw failed Stage 2 disposal burns, etc. Relabel this one and you'll have to relabel those as well.I wouldn't have a problem with post-launch "Anomaly", but all caps "ANOMALY" bugs me. - Ed Kyle
Surely naming the thread "Partial failure: ..." would be the clearest option?
Quote from: seb21051 on 07/10/2024 04:06 amWell, if they had tried to recover the fairings, they might have saved a few euros . . . I'm sure those things don't cost much under $10m for the pair.I got the idea when I saw that one fairing of theirs float down. It seemed to be clapping hands.Hey, now there's a business idea! Offer to recover all the expendable's fairings! Better still, build their fairings for them, so they can be recovered.Hang on, I need to call my VC pimp.Nice idea, but you would need the cooperation of ArianeSpace and the government. Fairings don't easily survive without some help. That help takes the form of additional equipment which costs money and eats into the payload capability. ArianeSpace still subscribes to the Formula-1 school of aerospace design: performance at all costs. It takes a major shift in mentality to build the rockets with too much capability and then sacrifice some of that capability to pay for those things which give reusability.In other words, you can't just recover the fairings if they weren't designed to be recovered. They will come out of the water much more beat-up, if they come out of the water at all.
The bigger problem with fairing reuse would be throwing a monkey wrench in Arianespace’s Byzantine work/contract sharing allocations among the member states.
Quote from: rpapo on 07/10/2024 10:49 amQuote from: seb21051 on 07/10/2024 04:06 amWell, if they had tried to recover the fairings, they might have saved a few euros . . . I'm sure those things don't cost much under $10m for the pair.I got the idea when I saw that one fairing of theirs float down. It seemed to be clapping hands.Hey, now there's a business idea! Offer to recover all the expendable's fairings! Better still, build their fairings for them, so they can be recovered.Hang on, I need to call my VC pimp.Nice idea, but you would need the cooperation of ArianeSpace and the government. Fairings don't easily survive without some help. That help takes the form of additional equipment which costs money and eats into the payload capability. ArianeSpace still subscribes to the Formula-1 school of aerospace design: performance at all costs. It takes a major shift in mentality to build the rockets with too much capability and then sacrifice some of that capability to pay for those things which give reusability.In other words, you can't just recover the fairings if they weren't designed to be recovered. They will come out of the water much more beat-up, if they come out of the water at all.The bigger problem with fairing reuse would be throwing a monkey wrench in Arianespace’s Byzantine work/contract sharing allocations among the member states.
As far as I know and I can find publicly there will be only one CURIE cubesat, deployed by EXOPOD (ExoLaunch) deployer.
Quote from: jcm on 07/10/2024 01:22 amQuote from: Ollopa11 on 07/10/2024 01:02 amSorry, but this thread renaming is not acceptable. The primary mission was a success. By this measure, there should be a thread called: ANOMALY Boeing Starliner (CST-100) CFT mission discussion thread : May-July 2024I am not holding my breath. I would consider this a much bigger anomaly that the niggling issues with Starliner: Ariane 6 leaving 7700 kg of hardware in a 580 km orbit by mistake.Clearly opinions on this sort of anomaly vary widely. On Wikipedia I tried to change the three Atlas missions where the Centaur later fragmented (creating considerable space debris) to "Partial success". I got shouted down by folks who said that the payload was delivered as planned, so it was a "success" despite the extra (and not understood, to my knowledge) creation of debris.
Quote from: Ollopa11 on 07/10/2024 01:02 amSorry, but this thread renaming is not acceptable. The primary mission was a success. By this measure, there should be a thread called: ANOMALY Boeing Starliner (CST-100) CFT mission discussion thread : May-July 2024I am not holding my breath. I would consider this a much bigger anomaly that the niggling issues with Starliner: Ariane 6 leaving 7700 kg of hardware in a 580 km orbit by mistake.
Sorry, but this thread renaming is not acceptable. The primary mission was a success. By this measure, there should be a thread called: ANOMALY Boeing Starliner (CST-100) CFT mission discussion thread : May-July 2024I am not holding my breath.
🎥 Europe’s new #Ariane6 rocket powered into space on 9 July 2024 from its launch pad in French Guiana. Check out our launch highlights video! 👀 🔗 https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Videos/2024/07/Ariane_6_first_flight_highlights
I so wish that Ariane 6 could share information about the deorbit burn
More info will follow as soon as the teams have collected and analysed their data.
Anyone else think this would be a cool opportunity for Arianespace to show the commitment to zero orbital debris generation, and also an opportunity for a startup space debris removal company to deorbit this stage?
Quote from: AstroWare on 07/11/2024 09:27 pmAnyone else think this would be a cool opportunity for Arianespace to show the commitment to zero orbital debris generation, and also an opportunity for a startup space debris removal company to deorbit this stage?Seems like an extraordinarily tough target for a first go. Uncooperative, massive, no grapple fixture, etc.
...I have a question about the Ariane 6 ULPM.If I understood the launch broadcast correctly, the APU was only ignited after the Vinci during the first burn phase.How was the stage pre-accelerated and the attitude controlled before the first ignition of the Vinci?
