Author Topic: SpaceX F9/Crew Dragon: Polaris Dawn : KSC LC-39A : July 2023 (Read 112205 times)

RocketLover0119 · « **on:** 02/14/2022 12:38 pm »

Polaris Dawn crewed Dragon flight

Threads: Polaris Program (3 flight series) Discussion / Polaris Dawn Discussion

~~2023.~~

Crew: Jared Isaacman, Scott Poteet, Sarah Gillis, Anna Menon

Higher apogee than I4, will include EVA.

As announced today:

https://polarisprogram.com/dawn/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/14/jared-isaacman-polaris-spacex-starship-inspiration4/

NSF interview:

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1493428281005252609

Orbiter · « **Reply #1 on:** 02/14/2022 12:46 pm »

Wow, a spacewalk from Dragon with SpaceX's new EVA suit and the first commercial EVA!

john57sharp · « **Reply #2 on:** 02/14/2022 12:49 pm »

Remember SpaceX offering to step up to make new EVA suits for NASA? Looks like they may have already had this in mind.

Going to need an EVA hatch on Dragon too.

John

Ghoti · « **Reply #3 on:** 02/14/2022 12:52 pm »

While many in the corporate world work for decades hoping to eventually be promoted into an executive position, the career path for dedicated SpaceX employees leads to becoming an astronaut. Amazing opportunity. Amazing incentive.

savantu · « **Reply #4 on:** 02/14/2022 01:05 pm »

I'm more shocked by the revelation that they are thinking to go for Starship first human flight with non-NASA astronauts !
Finally somebody is taking a hammer to the status quo!

Pleasant to hear is EVA suits are close to being tested just shows Musk is not waiting for NASA to get its act together ( remember the NASA new suits debacle ? ). Get in or step aside !

Eagerly waiting for some extra data regarding the orbit. Maybe even try some Molnya type ? A fiery entrance for Dragon.

DreamyPickle · « **Reply #5 on:** 02/14/2022 01:18 pm »

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The first flight, which could come by the end of the year, will aim to send a crew of four farther than any other human spaceflight in 50 years

So they go far but not as far as the Moon (would have required FH). Minimum apogee to meet this is goal is maybe 600km?

The DearMoon project does have the goal of going farther than ever before.

ZachS09 · « **Reply #6 on:** 02/14/2022 01:33 pm »

Can't wait to see Jared go back to space this year. He's honestly one of the best commercial astronauts of this generation.

Herb Schaltegger · « **Reply #7 on:** 02/14/2022 01:53 pm »

https://www.today.com/news/news/know-polaris-spacexs-newest-mission-program-rcna16093

NX-0 · « **Reply #8 on:** 02/14/2022 01:58 pm »

I suspect Polaris Dawn would be a polar orbit?

Brovane · « **Reply #9 on:** 02/14/2022 01:59 pm »

Quote from: DreamyPickle on 02/14/2022 01:18 pm

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The first flight, which could come by the end of the year, will aim to send a crew of four farther than any other human spaceflight in 50 years

So they go far but not as far as the Moon (would have required FH). Minimum apogee to meet this is goal is maybe 600km?

The DearMoon project does have the goal of going farther than ever before.

Could they be going for the Gemini 11 record of 1,300 km? Not sure how much margin the F9 has for Crew Dragon launches.

Two of the Crew members where/are SpaceX employees. Is SpaceX allowing the two employees to temporarily take a sabbatical to do the mission and then come back to SpaceX after it is over? Would be smart if they did allow this type of flexibility because it would only bring more experience to SpaceX for potential future missions, IE Crewed Mars missions.

Really looking forward to the mission and hopefully another Netflix series!!!!

Jim · « **Reply #10 on:** 02/14/2022 02:01 pm »

Quote from: Brovane on 02/14/2022 01:59 pm

Two of the Crew members where/are SpaceX employees. Is SpaceX allowing the two employees to temporarily take a sabbatical to do the mission and then come back to SpaceX after it is over? Would be smart if they did allow this type of flexibility because it would only bring more experience to SpaceX for potential future missions, IE Crewed Mars missions.

Why would it have to be a sabbatical?

kuldan · « **Reply #11 on:** 02/14/2022 02:14 pm »

Quote from: Brovane on 02/14/2022 01:59 pm

Two of the Crew members where/are SpaceX employees. Is SpaceX allowing the two employees to temporarily take a sabbatical to do the mission and then come back to SpaceX after it is over? Would be smart if they did allow this type of flexibility because it would only bring more experience to SpaceX for potential future missions, IE Crewed Mars missions.

Really looking forward to the mission and hopefully another Netflix series!!!!

Look at the Crew Image - those two are wearing distinct patches to Isaacman and the other Crewmember - they have a winged emblem on the patch, whereas the two SpaceX employees actually have the SpaceX Logo - I interpret this as those are flying as Employees of SpaceX, not private citizens.

JayWee · « **Reply #12 on:** 02/14/2022 02:15 pm »

Quote from: Brovane on 02/14/2022 01:59 pm

Two of the Crew members where/are SpaceX employees. Is SpaceX allowing the two employees to temporarily take a sabbatical to do the mission and then come back to SpaceX after it is over? Would be smart if they did allow this type of flexibility because it would only bring more experience to SpaceX for potential future missions, IE Crewed Mars missions.

Sarah Gillis - Lead Space Operations Engineer at SpaceX, responsible for overseeing the company’s astronaut training program
Anna Menon - Lead Space Operations Engineer at SpaceX, manages the development of crew operations and serves in mission control as both a Mission Director and crew communicator.

Don't know about you, but someone leading astronaut training program and mission director having actual spaceflight experience makes absolute sense. Should be almost a job requirement

Brovane · « **Reply #13 on:** 02/14/2022 02:40 pm »

Quote from: JayWee on 02/14/2022 02:15 pm

Quote from: Brovane on 02/14/2022 01:59 pm
Two of the Crew members where/are SpaceX employees. Is SpaceX allowing the two employees to temporarily take a sabbatical to do the mission and then come back to SpaceX after it is over? Would be smart if they did allow this type of flexibility because it would only bring more experience to SpaceX for potential future missions, IE Crewed Mars missions.
Sarah Gillis - Lead Space Operations Engineer at SpaceX, responsible for overseeing the company’s astronaut training program
Anna Menon - Lead Space Operations Engineer at SpaceX, manages the development of crew operations and serves in mission control as both a Mission Director and crew communicator.

Don't know about you, but someone leading astronaut training program and mission director having actual spaceflight experience makes absolute sense. Should be almost a job requirement

I agree 100%, it is a good move.

Jim · « **Reply #14 on:** 02/14/2022 02:54 pm »

Quote from: JayWee on 02/14/2022 02:15 pm

Don't know about you, but someone leading astronaut training program and mission director having actual spaceflight experience makes absolute sense. Should be almost a job requirement

Not really, trainers and directors in other fields don't require it.

Over a 150 space missions, where done without it.

Brovane · « **Reply #15 on:** 02/14/2022 02:54 pm »

I was thinking back to the moment during the 60 minutes segment on SpaceX almost a decade ago when the SpaceX employees were asked if they wanted a ride into space. Now a decade later, it is becoming a reality.

Conexion Espacial · « **Reply #16 on:** 02/14/2022 02:58 pm »

SpaceFlightNow has provided some details:

- Launch in November
- The EVA will be with two astronauts.

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/02/14/billionaire-plans-three-more-flights-with-spacex-culminating-in-starship-mission/

yg1968 · « **Reply #17 on:** 02/14/2022 02:58 pm »

Exclusive: Billionaire Jared Isaacman announces 3 new missions to space with SpaceX:
https://www.today.com/video/exclusive-billionaire-jared-isaacman-announce-3-new-missions-to-space-with-spacex-133108805704

yg1968 · « **Reply #18 on:** 02/14/2022 03:03 pm »

Quote from: Conexion Espacial on 02/14/2022 02:58 pm

SpaceFlightNow has provided some details:

- Launch in November
- The EVA will be with two astronauts.

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/02/14/billionaire-plans-three-more-flights-with-spacex-culminating-in-starship-mission/

That information seems to come from the Today interview above. In that interview, they said November or December.

yg1968 · « **Reply #19 on:** 02/14/2022 03:07 pm »

At the end of the report, the Today reporter said that Isaacman would be interested to be part of a future lunar mission but that was ways down the road.