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Tianlian-2-02 - CZ-3B - Xichang - December 13, 2021 (16:09 UTC)
by
mikezang
on 03 Dec, 2021 12:55
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#1
by
Josh_from_Canada
on 03 Dec, 2021 16:50
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This launch is expected from Pad 3
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#2
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russianhalo117
on 03 Dec, 2021 18:09
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#3
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mikezang
on 04 Dec, 2021 00:21
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#4
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Steven Pietrobon
on 04 Dec, 2021 04:37
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Can you tell me which site can be a trusted source here？
With the Chinese lock down on space reporting, there is none, other than from official channels, who don't say anything until after the launch. However, any tweets or other sources you can find are useful, but you need to provide the link so that we can judge the reliability of the information. Wikipedia in general can't be trusted, but if they give a reference which verifies the information, then give the reference.
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#5
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mikezang
on 04 Dec, 2021 04:54
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Can you tell me which site can be a trusted source here？
With the Chinese lock down on space reporting, there is none, other than from official channels, who don't say anything until after the launch. However, any tweets or other sources you can find are useful, but you need to provide the link so that we can judge the reliability of the information. Wikipedia in general can't be trusted, but if they give a reference which verifies the information, then give the reference.
I used Wikipedia just to provide all CZ-3B is launched from Xīchāng, do you have any other site to give us that information? I'd like to use it if you can share me
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#6
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Steven Pietrobon
on 04 Dec, 2021 04:57
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I used Wikipedia just to provide all CZ-3B is launched from Xīchāng, do you have any other site to give us that information? I'd like to use it if you can share me
Gunter's Space Page.
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/cz-3.htm
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#7
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mikezang
on 04 Dec, 2021 07:20
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I used Wikipedia just to provide all CZ-3B is launched from Xīchāng, do you have any other site to give us that information? I'd like to use it if you can share me
Gunter's Space Page.
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/cz-3.htm
Well, I will use it as reference next time.
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#8
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Galactic Penguin SST
on 05 Dec, 2021 00:00
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I’m going to remove the payload from the title right now since I can’t find where’s the source for that mention on Wikipedia. We know there are other satellites at Xichang (e.g. ChinaSat 6D) and it could be anything pending anything more concrete.
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#9
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Bean Kenobi
on 05 Dec, 2021 13:33
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A launch from Pad 3 at Xichang can also be a CZ-2C with Yaogan 30 triplet, not exclusively CZ-3B.
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#10
by
Liss
on 07 Dec, 2021 06:44
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Dec 11 through 16, 16:00-19:00 UTC daily:
P4490/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2229N12642E029
A) RJJJ B) 2112111600 C) 2112161900
D) 1600/1900
E) DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON DEC 11-16, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON DEC 11, 2021 1600 - 16, 2021 1900 (UTC)
DLY 1600-1900 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271222-N224507E1261720-N222949E1261131-N221142E1270625,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY.
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 07 Dec 2021 07:00:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
Q3072/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QARCH/IV/BO/E/000/999/3310N14118E999
A) RJJJ B) 2112111600 C) 2112161900
D) 1600/1900
E) ALTN RTE ARE ESTABLISHED DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES.
1.FLT PLANNED RTE IS REQ TO BE FILED AS FLW
(1)A582 : SAKON-A582-BISIG
ALTN RTE : SAKON-ALBAX-BISIG
(2)DIRECT RTE:TUNTO-NIMOX-MAGMA
ALTN RTE : TUNTO-ALBAX-MAGMA
2.SEE NOTAM RJAAYNYX P4490/21 (DOM RJJJ 7543/21)
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 07 Dec 2021 07:05:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
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#11
by
mikezang
on 07 Dec, 2021 07:51
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Dec 11 through 16, 16:00-19:00 UTC daily:
P4490/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2229N12642E029
A) RJJJ B) 2112111600 C) 2112161900
D) 1600/1900
E) DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON DEC 11-16, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON DEC 11, 2021 1600 - 16, 2021 1900 (UTC)
DLY 1600-1900 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271222-N224507E1261720-N222949E1261131-N221142E1270625,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY.
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 07 Dec 2021 07:00:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
Q3072/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QARCH/IV/BO/E/000/999/3310N14118E999
A) RJJJ B) 2112111600 C) 2112161900
D) 1600/1900
E) ALTN RTE ARE ESTABLISHED DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES.
1.FLT PLANNED RTE IS REQ TO BE FILED AS FLW
(1)A582 : SAKON-A582-BISIG
ALTN RTE : SAKON-ALBAX-BISIG
(2)DIRECT RTE:TUNTO-NIMOX-MAGMA
ALTN RTE : TUNTO-ALBAX-MAGMA
2.SEE NOTAM RJAAYNYX P4490/21 (DOM RJJJ 7543/21)
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 07 Dec 2021 07:05:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
I think there will be two launches between 12/11～12/16, except 12/13 for CZ-3B, another might be KZ-1A Y16 on 12/16...
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#12
by
Liss
on 08 Dec, 2021 06:14
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Three regular NOTAMs for Chinese territory:
A3111/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2815N10202E006
A) ZPKM B) 2112131600 C) 2112131716
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. ALL ACFT ARE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL
CREATED: 08 Dec 2021 06:07:00
SOURCE: ZBBBYNYX
A3112/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2718N10808E026
A) ZPKM B) 2112131600 C) 2112131721
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
CREATED: 08 Dec 2021 06:08:00
SOURCE: ZBBBYNYX
A3113/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZXXX/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2603N11412E016
A) ZGZU ZSHA B) 2112131602 C) 2112131721
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
CREATED: 08 Dec 2021 06:12:00
SOURCE: ZBBBYNYX
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#13
by
input~2
on 08 Dec, 2021 09:44
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Three regular NOTAMs for Chinese territory:
and one for 2nd stage debris over Pacific Ocean:
P4516/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON DEC 13, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON DEC 13, 2021 1604-1726 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
13 DEC 16:04 2021 UNTIL 13 DEC 17:26 2021. CREATED: 08 DEC 10:34 2021
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#14
by
mikezang
on 10 Dec, 2021 02:17
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The payload might be Tiantong-1 04 by
Satellite (Smart) Phones in ChinaThe paylaod also might be Fengyun-3F or Fengyun-4C translated from
“十四五”期间我国计划发射7颗风云气象卫星"At present, my country is one of the few countries and regions in the world that operate both geostationary meteorological satellites and polar-orbiting meteorological satellites." Cao Xiaozhong said that since 1988, my country has launched 19 meteorological satellites. Among them, 8 are in orbit, including 3 polar orbiting meteorological satellites and 5 stationary meteorological satellites. During the "14th Five-Year Plan" period, my country plans to launch 7 Fengyun meteorological satellites including Fengyun-3G, Fengyun-3F, and Fengyun-4C. Among them, there are 3 stationary meteorological satellites and 4 polar-orbiting meteorological satellites.
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#15
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input~2
on 10 Dec, 2021 09:20
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The paylaod also might be Fengyun-3F or Fengyun-4C translated from “十四五”期间我国计划发射7颗风云气象卫星
"At present, my country is one of the few countries and regions in the world that operate both geostationary meteorological satellites and polar-orbiting meteorological satellites." Cao Xiaozhong said that since 1988, my country has launched 19 meteorological satellites. Among them, 8 are in orbit, including 3 polar orbiting meteorological satellites and 5 stationary meteorological satellites. During the "14th Five-Year Plan" period, my country plans to launch 7 Fengyun meteorological satellites including Fengyun-3G, Fengyun-3F, and Fengyun-4C. Among them, there are 3 stationary meteorological satellites and 4 polar-orbiting meteorological satellites.
Fengyun satellites with even number (eg Fengyun-4C) are geostationary while Fengyun satellites with odd numbers (eg Fengyun-3F) are on polar orbits
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#16
by
mikezang
on 13 Dec, 2021 04:12
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The Tianlian-2 01 was launched by CZ-3B of 301 times, this time is 401, it is said the payload might be Tianlian-2 02 from
天链二号01星成功发射二代数据中继卫星系统的首次亮相.
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It is understood that, according to the development plan of the Tianlian-2 satellite system, after the successful launch of the Tianlian-2 01 satellite, the subsequent development of the 02 and 03 satellites will be initiated to achieve joint network operation and continue to be in the field of space-based measurement and control and information transmission in my country. Play a bigger role.
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#17
by
mikezang
on 13 Dec, 2021 14:07
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#18
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 13 Dec, 2021 14:37
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The Tianlian-2 01 was launched by CZ-3B of 301 times, this time is 401, it is said the payload might be Tianlian-2 02 from 天链二号01星成功发射二代数据中继卫星系统的首次亮相.
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It is understood that, according to the development plan of the Tianlian-2 satellite system, after the successful launch of the Tianlian-2 01 satellite, the subsequent development of the 02 and 03 satellites will be initiated to achieve joint network operation and continue to be in the field of space-based measurement and control and information transmission in my country. Play a bigger role.
This is BTW
one insider’s way of hinting at what’s on top, hence this may be TL-2-02.
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#19
by
Satori
on 13 Dec, 2021 15:09
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Waiting for news from Xichang...
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#20
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 13 Dec, 2021 15:17
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Liftoff confirmed per local reports of ground shaking, seen on Weibo.
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#21
by
mikezang
on 13 Dec, 2021 15:18
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#22
by
mikezang
on 13 Dec, 2021 16:05
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【长三乙成功发射天链二号02星】12月14日零时09分，长征三号乙运载火箭在我国西昌卫星发射中心点火升空，成功将天链二号02星送入预定轨道，发射任务取得圆满成功。这是长征系列火箭发射从400次迈向500次的第一步。
天链二号02星由中国航天科技集团有限公司五院研制，是我国第二代地球同步轨道数据中继卫星，主要用于为飞船、空间实验室、空间站等载人航天器提供数据中继和测控服务，为中、低轨道资源卫星提供数据中继和测控服务，为航天器发射提供测控支持。
本次发射是长征系列运载火箭的第401次发射。（中国航天科技集团）
[Chang San B successfully launches Tian Lian 2 Satellite 02] At 0:09 on December 14th, the Long March 3 B carrier rocket ignited into the sky at my country's Xichang Satellite Launch Center, successfully sending Tian Lian 2 Satellite 02 into its intended orbit , The launch mission was a complete success. This is the first step in the Long March series of rocket launches from 400 to 500.
Tianlian-2 02 was developed by the Fifth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation. It is my country’s second-generation geosynchronous orbit data relay satellite. It is mainly used to provide data relay for manned spacecraft such as spacecraft, space laboratories, and space stations. And measurement and control services, provide data relay and measurement and control services for medium and low orbit resource satellites, and provide measurement and control support for spacecraft launches.
This launch is the 401st launch of the Long March series of carrier rockets. (China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation)
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#23
by
input~2
on 13 Dec, 2021 16:16
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#24
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 13 Dec, 2021 16:30
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#25
by
Josh_from_Canada
on 13 Dec, 2021 16:49
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What's this rocket's serial number?
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#26
by
mikezang
on 13 Dec, 2021 17:17
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What's this rocket's serial number?
Y82.
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#27
by
Alter Sachse
on 13 Dec, 2021 17:17
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What's this rocket's serial number?
遥82 Y82
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#28
by
GELORD
on 13 Dec, 2021 17:32
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#29
by
input~2
on 13 Dec, 2021 22:17
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2021-124A/50005 in 181 x 35825 km x 27.05° (S/C)
2021-124B/50006 in 112 x 34336 km x 26.29° (3rd stage)
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#30
by
mikezang
on 14 Dec, 2021 00:27
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#31
by
SPKirsch
on 14 Dec, 2021 01:31
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#32
by
mikezang
on 14 Dec, 2021 04:04
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2021-124A/50005 in 181 x 35825 km x 27.05° (S/C)
2021-124B/50006 in 112 x 34336 km x 26.29° (3rd stage)
May I ask a initial question? where can I get such information? I tried
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraft/query,
there is no the newest NSSDCA ID and orbit information.
By the way, what does 181 x 35825 km x 27.05° mean? low orbit, high orbit and degree?
is there any site or software can show such information in GUI?
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#33
by
smoliarm
on 14 Dec, 2021 07:52
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#34
by
mikezang
on 14 Dec, 2021 08:11
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#35
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 15 Dec, 2021 04:55
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Launch video from Scinews.