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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #20 on: 08/04/2010 02:01 pm »
ARCA will launch Helen 2 space rocket from the Black Sea, between August 3 – 5.

Launching Helen 2 rocket, ARCA wants to achieve two objectives:
- launching the first Romanian space rocket in a suborbital flight
- achieving the first flight in Google Lunar X Prize

Helen 2 system overview
Helen 2 is a suborbital system consisting of a helium balloon with 0 pressure, that lifts a two stage rocket vehicle and payload European Lunar Lander (ELL). The payload is a pressurized capsule that carries avionics, such as accelerometers, cameras, satellite tracking systems, GPS, sensors, telemetry equipment, etc.

Flight sequence
The 281 NSSL Constanta ship will carry the ARCA team and the equipments inside the Black Sea safety zone, in the point of the balloon inflation.
The ascension of the balloon will take about an hour at the altitude of 14 000 m. During the launch in the center area of safety, the flight may be canceled by detaching the carrier rocket and its destruction at the impact with the water at any time necessary.
At that altitude, the vehicle will command the separation and start the first stage rocket engine. It will run 30s, and accelerate the vehicle up to speed 420m / s and altitude of 21.000m.
After consumption of the fuel first stage, the second stage will be switched on and will accelerate the vehicle for another 40s, up to speed 1200 m / s and at altitude of 34.000m. Weightlessness will follow up on reentry.
From this altitude, the vehicle will climb inertial to an altitude of 80.000m. Follows the reentry into Earth's atmosphere and recovering the capsule, the stage rocket, the capsule of the balloon equipment and the balloon itself. All these elements are provided with radio and satellite-tracking equipment.

Funding
The program of the Helen 2 space rocket was done with exclusively private funds. Our partners for this Mission 4 are BRD Group Societe Generale (principal partner) and Rompetrol (assures the logistics for the ships).


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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #21 on: 08/04/2010 02:59 pm »
80,000 meters - 80 kilometers, which is not a spaceflight.

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #22 on: 08/05/2010 03:27 pm »
Mission 4 postponed
04 August 2010 - Constanta

Today took place the attempt to launch Mission 4. ARCA team, together with the launch equipments, were transported on the Black Sea onboard NSSL 281 Constanta ship. The launch procedures were carried out perfectly, but the helium balloon shell ruptured and the team could no longer continue with the launch. The next launch attempt will take place in october 2010, after completing construction of a new balloon.
Photo gallery here: http://picasaweb.google.com/arcaorbital/Mission4#


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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #23 on: 08/05/2010 05:46 pm »
Green envelope. I am assuming they decided to no longer go with a solar-Montgolfier. Probably a good thing.  Still, they can't even get a hot air balloon in the air and there is no information that they have ever tried to test the rocket from a ground launch.
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #24 on: 08/05/2010 05:53 pm »
In a completely unrelated and probably politically incorrect item from looking over the launch attempt photos,

http://picasaweb.google.com/arcaorbital/Mission4#5501600151861533202

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #25 on: 08/21/2010 09:47 pm »
RE 80 km:

The American FCC (Federal Communications Commission) has for decades defined a radio transmitter operating above 50km altitude as a "Space Station", meaning a radio transmitting station operating IN SPACE!

Since the environment above 50 km ceases to be "Air", but becomes "something different" - part of the Ionosphere in this case - this is an appropriate reference line.  The propagation of Radio Signals originating above that altitude is quite different from that which occurs at lower altitudes.

This is also roughly the altitude where “Air Pressure” drops below 1 millibar, about 0.76 Torr, which is below the traditional threshold of “High Vacuum”.  It is an altitude at which even low Ballistic Coefficient objects (like small, tumbling rockets) have terminal velocity above the speed of sound. Aerodynamic forces are insignificant and useless for normal craft flying at less than that 100 meters per second.

With a Noon Sky Brightness less than 1 candela per square meter  (1/3000 of the low altitude, clear sky brightness in clean, dry air), this is a “Black Sky”!

High Vacuum, Black Sky, insignificant aerodynamic effects at normal velocities: This is Space!

No, neither this nor any other altitude is universally accepted as “Beginning of Space”.  The FAI uses the term Kármán line or speaks of a "100 km altitude boundary for astronautics".  Von Kármán offered this altitude only as the point where Orbital Dynamics would dominate aerodynamic effects (ie, aerodynamic flight would require greater than orbital velocity, so that lift would be unnecessary). In fact, 100 km is the threshold for Orbital Flight, with one pass around the Earth becoming possible just above that level (0.06 day orbital lifetime).  150 km can give 8 orbits and 200 km gives 100 (SMAD). But for suborbital trajectories, this is irrelevant: anything above 50 km will look and feel like Space! 

Others suggest that “Earth's Atmosphere” includes at least the Thermosphere (to 600 km altitude) and possibly the Van Allen Radiation Belts, since these are generated by the collision of energetic particles with air molecules (with some charged recoil particles subsequently held in place by Earth's magnetic field).     

the U.S. definition of an astronaut, which is still held today, is a person who has flown to more than 50 nautical miles (~80 km) altitude.

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #26 on: 08/21/2010 11:26 pm »
Is the Helen 2 rocket passively stabilized? There seem to be no actuators of any kind. See this photo: http://picasaweb.google.com/arcaorbital/Mission4#5501600049916608706.

There was long thread somewhere about rocket pendulum fallacy with folks arguing one way or the other. Unfortunately, there is still no actual flight that would conclude the dispute.

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #27 on: 08/22/2010 06:57 pm »
Is the Helen 2 rocket passively stabilized? There seem to be no actuators of any kind. See this photo: http://picasaweb.google.com/arcaorbital/Mission4#5501600049916608706.

There was long thread somewhere about rocket pendulum fallacy with folks arguing one way or the other. Unfortunately, there is still no actual flight that would conclude the dispute.

Was this just a test of the balloon system?  The rocket seems to be floating a bit high to actually contain propellant. 

http://picasaweb.google.com/arcaorbital/Mission4#5501600118410831362


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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #28 on: 10/03/2010 08:48 pm »
Helen 2 successfully launched.
October 03, 2010 - Constanta.

ARCA has successfully launched the first Romanian space rocket and completed the first flight in the Google Lunar X Prize Competition. More details about this event after the press conference, which will take place, on October 4 at 11 o'clock.

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #29 on: 10/13/2010 07:04 am »
They don't have an image of the rocket firing, as far as I can see. They claim a 30 second burn from 14,000 meters to 40km

Is there any independent verification about this?
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #30 on: 10/15/2010 10:52 pm »
I can't even get the site to load...

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #31 on: 10/15/2010 11:05 pm »
I can't even get the site to load...

That's because the last link has a weird redirection that is no longer valid. Try this: http://www.arcaspace.com/en/home.htm
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #32 on: 12/22/2010 03:13 pm »
Here's an interesting youtube supposedly from the ARCA guys.  I didn't realize that as part of their GLXP team they were seriously thinking of building a sea-launched supersonic carrier plane and an earth to LEO rocket...

http://is.gd/jc29B

Note: it doesn't look like any sharks were harmed in the making of this clip...even if they may have been jumped in the process...

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #33 on: 12/22/2010 03:37 pm »
Wow, every pop-up sat launcher needs a stealth carrier aircraft!!!
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #34 on: 12/22/2010 03:37 pm »
http://is.gd/jc29B

Note: it doesn't look like any sharks were harmed in the making of this clip...even if they may have been jumped in the process...

~Jon

It's blatantly obvious they ripped off the F-22 Raptor's design and that bullet + porthole thing Virgin has going on (which raises the question of why the first stage needs to be piloted). Is this a good way to go about designing launch vehicles? Grab two cool looking vehicles and slap them together? They didn't jump the shark, the did a barrel roll over a whale if you ask me.

Although I approve the music ;D Someone over there has good taste.
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #35 on: 12/22/2010 03:40 pm »

They have also solved the problem of making a water proof payload fairings ;)
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #36 on: 12/22/2010 05:08 pm »
LOL... was that an April 1st joke by them? :D

'Cause a sea-launched stealth supersonic carrier aircraft is easier to develop than a runway based one? ;) I had to LOL at the payload being pulled through the water as well.
« Last Edit: 12/23/2010 03:44 am by Lars_J »

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #37 on: 12/22/2010 06:33 pm »
The PT Barnum school of rocket design ;)
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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #38 on: 12/23/2010 10:56 pm »
OMG: YF-23 and SS1 had a love child!  ;D

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Re: ARCA Stabilo News
« Reply #39 on: 02/07/2012 06:39 pm »
ARCA is planning to build the Executor Kerosene/LOX rocket engine to power their plane en rocket.
« Last Edit: 02/07/2012 06:40 pm by Zond »

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